Switch Theme:

Can a techmarine repair a flyer?  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in ca
Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet






Canada

If a techmarine ends its movement in base contact with a flyer, can it attempt to repair it?

   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





Don't see a rule that says you can not.

So your Techmarine's Blessing's rule should apply.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/04 22:58:41


 
   
Made in us
Loyal Necron Lychguard






40k-noob wrote:
Don't see a rule that says you can not.

So your Techmarine's Blessing's rule should apply.


While inclined to agree, I'm playing devils advocate here. The only permission for base contact with flyers is for assaulting and for embarking/disembarking. One could say they could hover to be treated as a fast skimmer, however they are still a flyer and the base contact rules for flyers does not apply to just zooming or just hovering, but to the flyer "type".

Remember, devil's advocate, not disagreeing.
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





 Kevin949 wrote:
40k-noob wrote:
Don't see a rule that says you can not.

So your Techmarine's Blessing's rule should apply.


While inclined to agree, I'm playing devils advocate here. The only permission for base contact with flyers is for assaulting and for embarking/disembarking. One could say they could hover to be treated as a fast skimmer, however they are still a flyer and the base contact rules for flyers does not apply to just zooming or just hovering, but to the flyer "type".

Remember, devil's advocate, not disagreeing.


Gotcha.

Well the part where is says the base is ignored is with respect to "Flyers and Measuring"

The base obviously is still counted as being part of the model as enemy models must stay an inch away.

The blessings rule just need base to base contact with a vehicle for it to work



Nevertheless one way for sure is to be embarked on it and you can repair it. Also if its in hover mode or in Hover Strike then the base counts for sure.
   
Made in us
Loyal Necron Lychguard






40k-noob wrote:
 Kevin949 wrote:
40k-noob wrote:
Don't see a rule that says you can not.

So your Techmarine's Blessing's rule should apply.


While inclined to agree, I'm playing devils advocate here. The only permission for base contact with flyers is for assaulting and for embarking/disembarking. One could say they could hover to be treated as a fast skimmer, however they are still a flyer and the base contact rules for flyers does not apply to just zooming or just hovering, but to the flyer "type".

Remember, devil's advocate, not disagreeing.


Gotcha.

Well the part where is says the base is ignored is with respect to "Flyers and Measuring"

The base obviously is still counted as being part of the model as enemy models must stay an inch away.

The blessings rule just need base to base contact with a vehicle for it to work



Nevertheless one way for sure is to be embarked on it and you can repair it. Also if its in hover mode or in Hover Strike then the base counts for sure.


Ah, yes, good point. Very well, carry on.
   
Made in ca
Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet






Canada

Yeah I was thinking the embarking part too, but unfortunately they aren't Independent Characters (aside from Master of the Forge) so it'd be kind of a waste most of the time. I don't see why the B2B idea wouldn't work though unless someone is willing to enlighten us.

   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





most techmarines are ic's, except thunderfire canon TM but only while canon is still in play.

you should double check your codex.
   
Made in us
Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw




Stephens City, VA

40k-noob wrote:
most techmarines are ic's, except thunderfire canon TM but only while canon is still in play.

you should double check your codex.


True, just broke out my codex.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Yeah I was thinking the embarking part too, but unfortunately they aren't Independent Characters (aside from Master of the Forge) so it'd be kind of a waste most of the time. I don't see why the B2B idea wouldn't work though unless someone is willing to enlighten us.


Doublecheck the Techmarine entry

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/05 03:33:22


   
Made in us
Killer Klaivex




Oceanside, CA

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
If a techmarine ends its movement in base contact with a flyer, can it attempt to repair it?


IIRC, you have to be in base to base, which is tough to do with something flying overhead. I think you'd need to embark to fix it.

-Matt

 thedarkavenger wrote:

So. I got a game with this list in. First game in at least 3-4 months.
 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Base to base though, normally vehicles dont even have a base to be in contact with, RAW an all.

40kGlobal AOA member, regular of Overlords podcast club and 4tk gaming store. Blogger @ http://sanguinesons.blogspot.co.uk/
06/2013: 1st at War of the Roses ETC warm up.
08/213: 3rd place double teams at 4tk
09/2013: 7th place, best daemon and non eldar/tau army at Northern Warlords GT
10/2013: 3rd/4th at Battlefield Birmingham
11/2013: 5th at GT heat 3
11/2013: 5th COG 2k at 4tk
01/2014: 34th at Caledonian
03/2014: 3rd GT Final 
   
Made in gb
Daemonic Dreadnought





Derby, UK.

In lieu of an official ruling I would go with "Yes, if the flyer is hovering".

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/05 12:47:13


Armies:

(Iron Warriors) .......Gallery: Iron Warriors Gallery
.......Gallery: Necron Gallery - Army Sold
.......Gallery: Crimson Fists Gallery - Army Sold

Iron Warriors (8000 points-ish)

 
   
Made in ca
Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet






Canada

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Yeah I was thinking the embarking part too, but unfortunately they aren't Independent Characters (aside from Master of the Forge) so it'd be kind of a waste most of the time. I don't see why the B2B idea wouldn't work though unless someone is willing to enlighten us.


Doublecheck the Techmarine entry

I play Space Wolves... (yeah we lose the IC rule on our Techmarines, boo hoo)

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/12/05 15:35:06


   
Made in us
Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw




Stephens City, VA

 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Yeah I was thinking the embarking part too, but unfortunately they aren't Independent Characters (aside from Master of the Forge) so it'd be kind of a waste most of the time. I don't see why the B2B idea wouldn't work though unless someone is willing to enlighten us.


Doublecheck the Techmarine entry

I play Space Wolves... (yeah we lose the IC rule on our Techmarines, boo hoo)



Sad sad day indeed.

However can't yours take a T-Wolf and some cyberwolves?

No wonder it doesnt have IC that'd be nasty

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/05 15:38:10


   
Made in ca
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver





Also i don't believe spacewolves even have fliers, though of course they may take allies that do.
   
Made in ph
Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries




Artarves, the Forgotten Sons Legion Homeworld

MarkyMark wrote:
Base to base though, normally vehicles dont even have a base to be in contact with, RAW an all.


Land vehicles use their hulls to represent a base which is how you do all deliberations of facing and such and such. IMHO as long as a part of the Techmarine's base is either in contact with the Flyer's base or, barring that, is under what can be considered to be the flyer's main body.

"We are the survivors of a cleansing war waged upon our Legion. The Emperor sent the Space Wolves to slaughter us, our Primarch abandonded us, and we were driven underground by those who remember us. I am old, Dante, yet, though wounded and cast aside, I remain a true and loyal Space Marine."
- Artarion, Chapter Master of the Forgotten Sons Chapter, to Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels Chapter, during their brief meeting in the Daemon Fortress of Dree' Nekthar

NON CANON  
   
Made in ca
Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet






Canada

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:
 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
 Andilus Greatsword wrote:
Yeah I was thinking the embarking part too, but unfortunately they aren't Independent Characters (aside from Master of the Forge) so it'd be kind of a waste most of the time. I don't see why the B2B idea wouldn't work though unless someone is willing to enlighten us.


Doublecheck the Techmarine entry

I play Space Wolves... (yeah we lose the IC rule on our Techmarines, boo hoo)



Sad sad day indeed.

However can't yours take a T-Wolf and some cyberwolves?

No wonder it doesnt have IC that'd be nasty

Yeah they can, but it doesn't really help them repair stuff unfortunately

Neorealist wrote:Also i don't believe spacewolves even have fliers, though of course they may take allies that do.

And Forgeworld.

   
Made in us
The Conquerer






Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

If the Flyer is in Hover mode, most definitly. If its zooming, probably but I am not 100% on that.

Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
 
Forum Index » 40K You Make Da Call
Go to: