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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 12:54:55
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2012/12/20/boehner-plan-b-house-republicans-humiliate-their-leader/?tid=pm_pop
I don't like this author usually, but in this instance I am down with that. Bring forth the pitchforks!
The survivors in the Republican party can make a new party worthy of being a fgoverning party again.
Boehner Plan B: House Republicans humiliate their leader
Posted by Jennifer Rubin on December 20, 2012 at 9:57 pm
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FacebookTwitterStumbleUponDiggDeliciousHouse Republicans embarrassed their speaker Thursday night by shutting down his Plan B to protect all but millionaires from a tax hike, come Jan. 1. How close was the GOP to having enough support for Speaker John Boehner’s plan? A senior leadership aide replied glumly, “Not close enough.”
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor and Whip Kevin McCarthy
The outcome stunned House leadership: In one vote (or nonvote), the all-or-nothing crowd handed the high ground back to the president, who can now rightly claim that House Republicans would rather raise everyone’s taxes than raise them on millionaires.
It is a stunning miscalculation, one that allows the president and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to essentially write whatever bill they can get through the Senate and then watch House Republicans either cave (to a deal that will certainly be worse) or effectively raise taxes for the entire country.
Boehner (R-Ohio) said in a statement, “The House did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass. Now it is up to the president to work with Senator Reid on legislation to avert the fiscal cliff. The House has already passed legislation to stop all of the January 1 tax rate increases and replace the sequester with responsible spending cuts that will begin to address our nation’s crippling debt. The Senate must now act.”
A Republican senior aide explained, “We have some members that would rather let all tax rates go up ‘without their fingerprints’ than save some taxpayers from a tax hike and letting just the top rate go up. That is what it amounts to.”
In this fight, according to a source close to the speaker, House Majority Leader Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) “was a rock star. He and the Speaker worked closely together throughout this process, and Eric worked his butt off.”
Unfortunately his caucus has rendered Boehner a nonplayer in any future fiscal negotiation because he can no longer speak for his conference. Perhaps Boehner should quit and let the House GOP stew and watch as the country grabs pitchforks and torches to come after the tax-hikers. This is a party acting like a minority party, or worse, like petulant teenagers.
The world of Heritage Action Network, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) and the other all-or-nothing hard-liners in the conservative media have encouraged and will delight in this sort of fiasco. That said, the fault lies with the spineless members who think they’ll escape blame if they don’t vote for any measure. That is folly, not to mention political cowardice. To govern is to choose, and they apparently can do neither.
This sort of display suggests Republicans are not capable of governing. What was an argument by Democrats (They are unreasonable! They only care for the rich!) is now a political reality.
When I posed the question “What next?” to several senior Republicans, the answer came back, ” I really don’t know” or “Good question.” What we do know is that House Republicans may have confirmed the good judgment of the American people in keeping divided government. Goodness knows none of these people can be trusted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 13:01:19
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Tea Party is the best thing that ever happened to the Democrats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 13:57:34
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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I'm not a fan of Boehner, but at least he isn't a political idiot.
His party..... not so sure.
I wonder how much Cantor was behind this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 14:48:56
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Evidently Cantor was full bore behind Boehner. Sounds like he thought he had the votes and then some turned on him.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 19:20:19
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Well now this certainly sheds more light on the matter of "Does the US government work?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 19:28:56
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Hallowed Canoness
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juraigamer wrote:Well now this certainly sheds more light on the matter of "Does the US government work?"
....there's ever been a doubt that the answer is "no"?
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 21:58:12
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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No, we always knew it couldn't work properly in it's current state, it's just fun having more proof of that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 22:01:25
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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That's really awkward considering their stance on conception...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 22:07:43
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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If only the republicans watched more movies, They would know Plan-B never works.
They should have named it Plan-c
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 22:14:23
Subject: Re:Republican Plan B fails
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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If only the Emperor was here to rescue us from the politicians lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 23:52:15
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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So let me get this straight, a couple months ago a Republican had to strike down his own legislation that he wrote.
Now, Boehner and Cantor both worked hard to put forth this bill and the Republicans shot it down, and this basically puts the ball entirely in Obamas court?
Greatest troll of all time?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/21 23:52:29
Subject: Re:Republican Plan B fails
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Hallowed Canoness
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Well today's the day of the Reawakening, so the Dragons will handle things from here in a couple years.
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/22 00:15:16
Subject: Re:Republican Plan B fails
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Fixture of Dakka
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Bloodfrenzy187 wrote:If only the Emperor was here to rescue us from the politicians lol.
Don't worry I'm here, I'm just waiting for the right time.
Emperor AustonT 2036
Because what choice do you have?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/22 00:42:16
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Wait, So the republicans straight out said they care only for the Rich?
Im confused about Plan B
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/22 01:18:42
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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hotsauceman1 wrote:Wait, So the republicans straight out said they care only for the Rich?
Im confused about Plan B
Negotiating 101...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/22 01:25:56
Subject: Republican Plan B fails
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Ephrata, PA
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hotsauceman1 wrote:If only the republicans watched more movies, They would know Plan-B never works.
They should have named it Plan-c
Preperations A through G have failed...
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