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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 15:32:08
Subject: Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I am looking to pickup some Heavy Support for my Chaos army and wasn't sure on which to purchase. Originally I was going to get the 3x Obliterators and either have them in one squad or split them into to squads of 2/1. Then I looked at the Forgefiend, and he seemed like a descent option as well, but I was wondering can he shoot all 3 hades autocannons/Ectoplasma cannons in the same turn? If not then I think the Oblits might be a better choice for me.
My army right now has a squad of Havocs with 4x autocannons and a Defiler. I was just looking for more range. I have a 2nd Defiler as well, just gotta assemble and paint it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 15:35:52
Subject: Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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forgefiends and oblits are not there for range, but for walking firesupport/versitility.
Honestly I would try to make all of your HS either vehicles or non vehicles. 2 defilers + 1 forgefined or 2 havoc squads and 1 oblit squad.
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Dark Mechanicus and Renegade Iron Hand Dakka Blog
My Dark Mechanicus P&M Blog. Mostly Modeling as I paint very slowly. Lots of kitbashed conversions of marines and a few guard to make up a renegade Iron Hand chapter and Dark Mechanicus Allies. Bionics++ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 17:17:00
Subject: Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Well I do have 2 Defilers and 1 squad of Havocs already, so I could go either way. I like the models of both Obliterators and Forgefiend. Is one more resilient than the other?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 17:54:11
Subject: Re:Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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from the modeling aspect the forgefiend looks alot cooler. Always a point of consideration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 17:58:54
Subject: Re:Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Exalbaru wrote:from the modeling aspect the forgefiend looks alot cooler. Always a point of consideration. 
That is true...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 18:34:52
Subject: Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Oblits with Mark of Nurgle, Forgefiends just plainly suck
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You have ruled this galaxy for ten thousand years
Yet have little of account to show for your efforts
Order. Unity. Obedience.
We taught the galaxy these things
And we shall do so again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 18:39:18
Subject: Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, I'd take the Obliterators. Fiends are too easy to take down by HP stripping.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 18:40:02
Subject: Re:Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
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They really serve different roles. A Forgefiend is a long range fire support platform to engage enemy infantry or light/medium vehicles. Obliterators are a jack-of all-trades unit that can do anything capably but isn't particularly spectacular (for their cost) at any one thing and are generally more useful for engaging 2+sv infantry/MC's and heavy tanks at close ranges.
Both however have particular problems in 6E. The Forgefiend is a very expensive mid-AV vehicle in an edition where such vehicles are hilariously easy to kill. Obliterators have the problem in that, while not super-easy to kill, are now as liable to run as guardsmen if you kill one.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/12/28 18:42:20
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New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 19:40:44
Subject: Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Beast of Nurgle
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Vaktathi has a point if yo run 3 man squad of oblits each time one dies your taking a ld test, i run 2x2xoblits with mark of nurgle so 4 in total, and 5havocs with 3 missile(2flakk) and an autocannon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/12/28 23:47:46
Subject: Squad of 3x Obliterators or 1x Forgefiend
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Dakka Veteran
Reading - UK
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SolOblits look good to me in my head, not sure about actual game play.
Oblts are just more versitile, the only issue is LD checks, I quite often consider attaching Typhus to a unit to solve that, TDA allows him to deepstrike with them if wanted.
The question depends on what else you have in your army and your strategies, that would help to understand what role you could do with filling that might be lacking in your list or what just fits better.
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