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http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/star-wars-episode-7-stormtroopers-first-look-at-the-new-imperial-guards-9670564.html

Star Wars Episode VII: First look at the new Stormtroopers?

Apparent Snowtrooper.


I think they are OK. Definitely prefer the originals at this stage. Better pictures might change that.

Yeah, hte originals are much cooler..

The top one looks less like stormtrooper helmet and more like a ski helmet for some reason.

I guess this answers the question of will there be stormtroopers. Then the question arises, why are there stormtroopers?

My initial impression is that they are too sleek for Star Wars. The older films always had some level of smaller practical details built in.

As much as I loved the originals, I think these look awesome.

And I'm assuming that there's going to be some Imperial left in the galaxy, and that's why they're going to be in the movies.

Troy wrote:
The top one looks less like stormtrooper helmet and more like a ski helmet for some reason.

I guess this answers the question of will there be stormtroopers. Then the question arises, why are there stormtroopers?

Well, the rumor is that...

Seems far more reasonable than all those very ambitious and ruthless leaders suddenly forgetting how to do anything and throwing in the towel until a blue dude shows up and shows them what's up.

I mean, wasn't Endor every ship the Rebellion could scrape together while it was maybe a 10th of the imperial fleet? It's been a long time so I can't remember the cannon numbers.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Seems far more reasonable than all those very ambitious and ruthless leaders suddenly forgetting how to do anything and throwing in the towel until a blue dude shows up and shows them what's up.

I mean, wasn't Endor every ship the Rebellion could scrape together while it was maybe a 10th of the imperial fleet? It's been a long time so I can't remember the cannon numbers.

As cool as the Thrawn series was, I also like the new idea more (if that's what is going on).


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The Snowtrooper helmets pretty neat, I think. - I actually really like that.

The Stormtrooper helmet is terrible though. I really don't like it at all.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Seems far more reasonable than all those very ambitious and ruthless leaders suddenly forgetting how to do anything and throwing in the towel until a blue dude shows up and shows them what's up.

I mean, wasn't Endor every ship the Rebellion could scrape together while it was maybe a 10th of the imperial fleet? It's been a long time so I can't remember the cannon numbers.

I never read much of the EU books other than the ones with the blue guy. But my impression was that the EU stuff kept scrambling to find new villains, most of whom were more-or-less recycled concepts from the original films. So rather than spend time digging up ex-Imperial Admirals or dark Jedi or Sith or whatever, why not just keep the original baddies around?

I also think that with the new approach -- if true -- they could bring in some interesting real-world themes and metaphors if they chose. The original trilogy didn't have much of that, but the prequel trilogy did, if in a simplistic, ham-handed way at times.

Just something to point out for the new X-Wing: Disney seem really focused on trying to more closely achieve Ralph McQuarrie's original concept art, both for ep VII and in Rebels. Compare the following concept art for the X-Wing to what we see in the Force for Change video:

Pictures!

That last picture makes me insanely happy. As much as Lucas did cool things with CGI sets in the prequels, it's awesome to see actual, physical things.

Does anybody know if the story is based on Lucas's idea for where it was going to go.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Does anybody know if the story is based on Lucas's idea for where it was going to go.

Last I heard, Lucas had spent the last 10 years or so denying that there were ever any plans to go past RotJ.


There were vague, ancient rumours about it originally being planned as a 9-part series, but that was way before he even started on the prequels. Once it became all about Vader, RotJ was the 'end' of the story so far as Lucas was concerned.

Lucas wrote a lot of material, including some scattered stuff for events beyond Return of the Jedi, but nothing as concrete as a storyboard or screenplay or anything- just notes.

And no, the writing for this movie, from the characters to the plot, is completely indepedent of any of Lucas' ideas for a sequel trilogy.

Going by all the "Making of..." documentaries of the original trilogy it was the cast and other directors that made the movies what they were. He has good ideas (sometimes) but the man can't write for gak. I'm fine with Lucas having little to do with the new ones.

 Ahtman wrote:
Going by all the "Making of..." documentaries of the original trilogy it was the cast and other directors that made the movies what they were. He has good ideas (sometimes) but the man can't write for gak. I'm fine with Lucas having little to do with the new ones.

I think Lucas' strength is probably more as a producer, rather than a director. The prequel trilogy probably would have been significantly better if he had just been more of a general idea man and producer and allowed someone else to take the reigns and direct.

Conceptually, the prequel trilogy wasn't bad. The overarching idea that the Republic BECAME the Empire through Sith manipulation is something that I think most fans kinda understood, but maybe hadn't fully thought through. And obviously there was TONS of potential in Anakin's Skywalker's fall from grace. The ideas were there for some kick-*** films, they just didn't materialize through horrid execution.

Although to be fair, I think the prequels merely picked up where RotJ left off...bad dialogue, wooden acting, shameless merchandising to children, etc.