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Chute82 wrote: Not a FLGS horror story but a horror story
My buddy and I where setting up tables and chairs for his 3 year old daughters b-day party. He rented one of those bounce houses for the party for the kids to jump around in. The bounce house was delivered later that day by these two guys. They unloaded the bounce house and plugged it into the power and inflated. The guys then start telling us how hard it was to get all the baby oil and stains cleaned on the bounce house. They told us a swingers party rented it earlier in the week.
Boggy Man wrote: Most of the available buildings around here are old mills and houses over 100 years old. One of the games I had was with a cute girl who really seemed to like me. I asked for her phone number but she didn't know what a phone was. It turns out she was a ghost the whole time.
Compel wrote: Except, the staffmember playing the game said. "Nope, not happening." Then the "Adjudicator" said, "he's the store expert, he's right" - despite all my (very calm, polite, yet firm) attempts to demonstrate with the rulebook otherwise.
I then got threatened with not only getting kicked out of the tournament, but being banned from the store for disagreeing with staff.
Sometimes, it's worth dying on the hill to make a point.
If it were me, back when I was "serious" about playing, I probably would have called that threat, and demanded that they either play by the rules or refund my money, because I don't pay money to be cheated.
I'm pretty sure I didn't pay to play in the tournament... Probably.
As for getting banned from the store, yeah, I wouldn't have been brave enough for that, or at least, not back then - I'm somewhat a little more assured of myself nowadays, rather than some kid just clean out of school. It was literally the only place I knew of that had decent gaming tables and people to game with. - Not to mention shopping, online stores hadn't really taken off then and I think even Static Games (the other major store in Glasgow), was still trading out of an indoor market stall.
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Compel wrote: Not quite a horror story but, I recently worked out that for at least the past 16 years, I have never had a positive experience playing a game with a Games Workshop staffmember.
Why? What's been happening? When I used to play customers it was always a good laugh for both.
on subject of cheating/bad sportsmanship at GW I cheated some kids at a GW once by not realising characters lost the precision shot rule in 7th (they did have it in 6th, right?).
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AndrewGPaul wrote: Money? I think you're misunderstanding the nature of the event.
I generally assume that tournaments have an entry fee.
Yes, if it was something like the official national tournaments they used to run, but I think calling in-store events at a GW store "tournaments" is stretching it. They were just something the staff put together for a laugh, really.
I once took part in a Necromunda "tournament", where the winner was decided on the increase in gang rating after four games. I won handily because I rolled up three (!) Archeotech Hoards (Honestly! I did it in front of everyone. I've never had such a good set of territories before or since.) and ransacked them after the third game; 18D6 x 10 credits, and spent the lot on all the extra equipment I could get my hands on.
To be generous to the staff in Compel's post, I think they were going for a heroic end, rather than Faramir winning because he picked on mooks like a chump. I'd have been fine with that, but I agree if you protested it was against the rules, they should have done it right.
Compel wrote: Not quite a horror story but, I recently worked out that for at least the past 16 years, I have never had a positive experience playing a game with a Games Workshop staffmember.
Why? What's been happening? When I used to play customers it was always a good laugh for both.
on subject of cheating/bad sportsmanship at GW I cheated some kids at a GW once by not realising characters lost the precision shot rule in 7th (they did have it in 6th, right?).
I think there's a difference of intent between maliciously cheating, and having edition amnesia (as us older gamers often have after playing so many editions of the game).
master of ordinance wrote: I think Paulson wins this thread unless a certain Dakkanought who's store tried to kill them turns up.....
Someone speaks the devil's name!?
Over the corse of nearly 5 years working for the local GW store, of which 2 of those years were during major mall renovations/expansion, I got to deal with A Lot! (and yes, it's true, our store indeed tried repeatedly to kill us all)
While God throwing a lightning bolt at us was a little disconcerting, (and which was my fault apparently...), our greatest nightmare was this one customer whom we coined 'Grossie'.
Just to give you an idea of how truly awful this individual was, think of every filthy, unhygienic, grotesque, Nurgle'fied stereotype that there is about larger-sized, geeky, socially awkward neckbeards...
Now apply those tropes to a female. (minus the actual beard, but slightly visible mustache)
Best (or rather worst) was the day this person decided to bring their crystal dildo into the store thinking it would be a hilarious joke for the guys on staff...
Unfortunately, there was a mother with her young son maybe 10 feet away, and then the realisation of where this implement had repeatedly been.
Compel wrote: Two incidents come to mind immediately about my experiences.
One (in fact, one of the incidents that convinced me to drop GW and 40k entirely), was a game with a GW staffmember a few years ago, whenever 6th edition was. His army?
Kairos Fateweaver
Bloodthirster
2 squads of pink horrors
Warpgate (aka Spawner of infinite demons)
2 flying demon princes
1 ground demon prince
I didn't kill a single model, I got tabled.
Another, 12 years ago, was playing in GW Glasgow in a LOTR tournament. I'd won every game, final match against a GW staffmember (there was an odd number of players), I was on course to win the tournament. The staffmember was playing as a player, with someone else as the adjudicator (supposedly).
We were playing a 'headhunter' mission - so, there were a whole bunch of extra points for killing the enemy general. - I had almost tabled the other force (therefore in a position to win), except for the enemy general was still alive (The Witch King, maybe...)
Their general charged Faramir (my General), who had already charged a random orc on the final turn.
I had planned for that, however, and then counter charged the Witch King with a Fountain Court Guard (the toughest to kill infantry model in the game at the time).
So, LOTR, had a fundamental rule that, there can never be a "multiple on multiple" combat, every single combat must be split to either 2 V 1, or groups of 1v1. This was a fundamental concept of the game.
Doing this move, meant that The Witch King (who had good odds on killing Faramir), had to fight the Fountain Court Guard instead of Faramir, whereas Faramir had to fight the random orc. - As the Court Guard wasn't in base contact with the orc.
Naturally, doing so would pretty much guarantee me the victory in the game (and therefore the tournament).
Except, the staffmember playing the game said. "Nope, not happening." Then the "Adjudicator" said, "he's the store expert, he's right" - despite all my (very calm, polite, yet firm) attempts to demonstrate with the rulebook otherwise.
I then got threatened with not only getting kicked out of the tournament, but being banned from the store for disagreeing with staff.
So, yeah... Faramir died, I lost the game, therefore the tournament (the first gaming tournament I ever took part in).
As you can guess, I'm still bitter about it. Which is kinda sad, considering, well, 12 years ago... but yeah, I never claimed to be a fully adjusted human being.
Fair enough. In fairness my worst games were against my manager. He claimed he only takes models he likes (he seemed to only like optimal build/net list models though). I had only just gotten back into 40k, and had bought a fairly tame Gk army, and when 7th ed came out an unbound list of pure kans and dreds. He'd go on about how he always beat me, but use old rules that no longer applied, optimised lists against casual lists, and get very arsy if he ever lost a model (I nearly packed up when he kept shouting 'but what about look out sir?' when a mind strike missile hit his jetbike riding warlock and farseer, and he had to take perils tests).
Boggy Man wrote: Most of the available buildings around here are old mills and houses over 100 years old. One of the games I had was with a cute girl who really seemed to like me. I asked for her phone number but she didn't know what a phone was. It turns out she was a ghost the whole time.
If she was a ghost, how did she roll dice?
The dice were dead too! *dramatic sting!*
"-Nonsense, the Inquisitor and his retinue are our hounoured guests, of course we should invite them to celebrate Four-armed Emperor-day with us..." Thought for the Day - Never use the powerfist hand to wipe.
Matthew wrote: You know what I hate? People who can't respect that you're playing. Seriously, I know my codex, I don't need your help. What is up with people coming up and telling me what to shoot at/assault? They even go as far as to move my models for me![/quote
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Best (or rather worst) was the day this person decided to bring their crystal dildo into the store thinking it would be a hilarious joke for the guys on staff...
Unfortunately, there was a mother with her young son maybe 10 feet away, and then the realisation of where this implement had repeatedly been.
You Sir, owe me a new keyboard. This one has chunks of half-digested breakfast all in it.
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"Holy Sh*&, you've opened my eyes and changed my mind about this topic, thanks Dakka OT!"
Best (or rather worst) was the day this person decided to bring their crystal dildo into the store thinking it would be a hilarious joke for the guys on staff... Unfortunately, there was a mother with her young son maybe 10 feet away, and then the realisation of where this implement had repeatedly been.
I'm also having flashbacks of you posting about this so-called store of the damned... Something about getting all the little 'uns to shout blood for the blood god really loud to annoy some religious bods as well as getting complaints from the mall management about being a bit too boisterous!??
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You know the shouting is hilarious. The red shirts have indoctrinated everyone from 8 to 40-year olds to scream WAAAGH!/BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!/I AM THE END, FEAR ME/DEATH! DEAAAATH! Everytime you roll a dice. I love my FLGS.
I guess our 'Grossie' would be our GW equivalent to the fabled Cat Pee Man...
My first manager would end up either hiding in the back stock room for 2-3 hours, or else wind up finding some "paperwork" to do down at the food court for a couple hours and leave me to try and contain in million or so highly inappropriate moments.
The second manager I worked under would tend to find time to do the weekly bank run, and/or take another staff member (if three of us were on shift) for a very prolonged lunch/smoke break, again leaving me to deal.
Our final manager was also a stand-up insult comic, so things would at least end hilariously!
I was effectively 'voluntold' into dealing with this customer (who almost never bought anything, but loved using all the store's supplies of course!), simply because I was the only person who could keep their lunch/breakfast down while breathing in 2-3+ hours of this individual's rather Nurgle'fied musk...
In the summer there were days so bad I could smell them coming from 10-12 feet away from the front of our store.
Luckily years and years of minor hockey, mostly spent on highly competitive girls teams have all but rendered me immune to body funk. Even 'Grossie' is as nothing compared to goalie equipment that hadn't been aired out - let alone washed in 4+ years! (Cat Pee Hockey Girl I guess?!)
Best (or rather worst) was the day this person decided to bring their crystal dildo into the store thinking it would be a hilarious joke for the guys on staff...
Unfortunately, there was a mother with her young son maybe 10 feet away, and then the realisation of where this implement had repeatedly been.
I'm also having flashbacks of you posting about this so-called store of the damned... Something about getting all the little 'uns to shout blood for the blood god really loud to annoy some religious bods as well as getting complaints from the mall management about being a bit too boisterous!??
I'll admit we fully enjoyed Mega Battle Sunday's and annoying the living crap out of the miserable old so-and-so's from the Edition Elle store across the hall. Never had a whole religious group to deal with though. (just the odd crazy parent blasting us for mentioning "magic" in an intro game)
We got a complain from the other end of our mall - 1.3km away! The day I threatened to eat the entire cake during the 5th ed launch events, because the barely audible excuse of a Waaagh! maybe three people attempted would've been drowned out by the purring of 1 kitten.
We did at least confirm however that the Power of the WAAAAGH! can destroy nearby walkie-talkie reception!
AndrewGPaul wrote: I don't remember the Glasgow staff being that bad, although 12 years ago was in the period where I didn't go near the place. Was that still at the top of Hope Street, or had it moved down to Central Station by that point?
Christ, I remember the Glasgow store - that was when I first stumbled across 40k (via Space Crusade), back in 1991. Skinny little 13 year old kid with a Home Counties accent. I suppose my only horror story is that they never understood what I was asking, and I never understood their answers
Skinflint Games- war gaming in the age of austerity
That'd be when I got into GW games (my first White Dwarf was issue 130), although I didn't go into the store until a few years later. There's a Clydesdale Bank on the site now.
I still see the shop manager from that period at wargames shows, although he's distanced himself from all that sci-fi nonsense now.
Best (or rather worst) was the day this person decided to bring their crystal dildo into the store thinking it would be a hilarious joke for the guys on staff...
Unfortunately, there was a mother with her young son maybe 10 feet away, and then the realisation of where this implement had repeatedly been.
Experiment 626 wrote:@SlaveToDarkness: I'm sorry.
I guess our 'Grossie' would be our GW equivalent to the fabled Cat Pee Man...
My first manager would end up either hiding in the back stock room for 2-3 hours, or else wind up finding some "paperwork" to do down at the food court for a couple hours and leave me to try and contain in million or so highly inappropriate moments.
The second manager I worked under would tend to find time to do the weekly bank run, and/or take another staff member (if three of us were on shift) for a very prolonged lunch/smoke break, again leaving me to deal.
Our final manager was also a stand-up insult comic, so things would at least end hilariously!
I was effectively 'voluntold' into dealing with this customer (who almost never bought anything, but loved using all the store's supplies of course!), simply because I was the only person who could keep their lunch/breakfast down while breathing in 2-3+ hours of this individual's rather Nurgle'fied musk...
In the summer there were days so bad I could smell them coming from 10-12 feet away from the front of our store.
Luckily years and years of minor hockey, mostly spent on highly competitive girls teams have all but rendered me immune to body funk. Even 'Grossie' is as nothing compared to goalie equipment that hadn't been aired out - let alone washed in 4+ years! (Cat Pee Hockey Girl I guess?!)
Best (or rather worst) was the day this person decided to bring their crystal dildo into the store thinking it would be a hilarious joke for the guys on staff...
Unfortunately, there was a mother with her young son maybe 10 feet away, and then the realisation of where this implement had repeatedly been.
I'm also having flashbacks of you posting about this so-called store of the damned... Something about getting all the little 'uns to shout blood for the blood god really loud to annoy some religious bods as well as getting complaints from the mall management about being a bit too boisterous!??
I'll admit we fully enjoyed Mega Battle Sunday's and annoying the living crap out of the miserable old so-and-so's from the Edition Elle store across the hall. Never had a whole religious group to deal with though. (just the odd crazy parent blasting us for mentioning "magic" in an intro game)
We got a complain from the other end of our mall - 1.3km away! The day I threatened to eat the entire cake during the 5th ed launch events, because the barely audible excuse of a Waaagh! maybe three people attempted would've been drowned out by the purring of 1 kitten.
We did at least confirm however that the Power of the WAAAAGH! can destroy nearby walkie-talkie reception!
Aah, now these are the better stories (and by that I mean the ones that do not leave images of someone whom resembles a certain member of my Princes trust team but on a significantly larger scale and waving a dildo around - sweet feth there goes my sex drive for the week or so). In particular I remember the one about the toxic solvent that meant the entire mall had to be evacuated.
Or the one which left you and some others literally holding a wall up whilst someone fetched help.
Or the one were the store flooded.
......
Hell, does anyone have a link to the big post Experiment did in another of these threads a few years back?
(And Experiment 626, I have to extract your stories some time and put them in an article. Or you should do that. Or someone else. They are amazing )
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Back about 12-13 years ago, I used to work part-time at a game store in Nashville, TN. The store owner was a really nice guy and he ended up hiring one of the locals that hung out there ALL THE TIME as the general manager. The guy was the general manager before I started working there.
The general manager was the reason I finally quit, because he was extremely immature (roughly same ages - early 30s), insulting and demeaning to people. The owner understood my explanation completely.
Flash forward to a Friday morning a couple of months after I left, I was walking into my main job and my wife called me asking if I caught the news before I left for work that morning. I had not. Turns out, the general manager was busted as a pedophile the night before. The store ran Youngblood Thursdays, IIRC. The general manager was using it to get close to young boys.
My own perception at the time was that he was actually trying to use it to get close to the mom. The manager was, as indicated earlier, immature, so it wasn't a surprised that he didn't have friends our age. And looking back on it, hindsight is 20/20 and you say "Why didn't I realize that?" He was extremely verbally homophobic, but that appears to have been a smoke screen.
I was still in his cell phone contact list, so I got a call from the detective investigating the allegations. Again, I wish I had considered that was happening, but I was shocked. When questioned, I gave the honest answer that we thought he was emotionally undeveloped so that's why he was hanging around with the kid. We also thought he was trying to smooth in on a single mother that way.
IIRC, he ended up with 300+ years of contiguous sentencing.
The game store is still around. It's kind of amazing it survived that, but they managed to make it through. I haven't been there much since I quit, but I don't think the owner hires employees anymore.
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AndrewGPaul wrote: That'd be when I got into GW games (my first White Dwarf was issue 130), although I didn't go into the store until a few years later. There's a Clydesdale Bank on the site now.
I still see the shop manager from that period at wargames shows, although he's distanced himself from all that sci-fi nonsense now.
138 was mine- odds are we probably crossed paths at some point
Skinflint Games- war gaming in the age of austerity
Imaginos wrote: Back about 12-13 years ago, I used to work part-time at a game store in Nashville, TN. The store owner was a really nice guy and he ended up hiring one of the locals that hung out there ALL THE TIME as the general manager. The guy was the general manager before I started working there.
The general manager was the reason I finally quit, because he was extremely immature (roughly same ages - early 30s), insulting and demeaning to people. The owner understood my explanation completely.
Flash forward to a Friday morning a couple of months after I left, I was walking into my main job and my wife called me asking if I caught the news before I left for work that morning. I had not. Turns out, the general manager was busted as a pedophile the night before. The store ran Youngblood Thursdays, IIRC. The general manager was using it to get close to young boys.
My own perception at the time was that he was actually trying to use it to get close to the mom. The manager was, as indicated earlier, immature, so it wasn't a surprised that he didn't have friends our age. And looking back on it, hindsight is 20/20 and you say "Why didn't I realize that?" He was extremely verbally homophobic, but that appears to have been a smoke screen.
I was still in his cell phone contact list, so I got a call from the detective investigating the allegations. Again, I wish I had considered that was happening, but I was shocked. When questioned, I gave the honest answer that we thought he was emotionally undeveloped so that's why he was hanging around with the kid. We also thought he was trying to smooth in on a single mother that way.
IIRC, he ended up with 300+ years of contiguous sentencing.
The game store is still around. It's kind of amazing it survived that, but they managed to make it through. I haven't been there much since I quit, but I don't think the owner hires employees anymore.
Imaginos wrote: Back about 12-13 years ago, I used to work part-time at a game store in Nashville, TN. The store owner was a really nice guy and he ended up hiring one of the locals that hung out there ALL THE TIME as the general manager. The guy was the general manager before I started working there.
The general manager was the reason I finally quit, because he was extremely immature (roughly same ages - early 30s), insulting and demeaning to people. The owner understood my explanation completely.
Flash forward to a Friday morning a couple of months after I left, I was walking into my main job and my wife called me asking if I caught the news before I left for work that morning. I had not. Turns out, the general manager was busted as a pedophile the night before. The store ran Youngblood Thursdays, IIRC. The general manager was using it to get close to young boys.
My own perception at the time was that he was actually trying to use it to get close to the mom. The manager was, as indicated earlier, immature, so it wasn't a surprised that he didn't have friends our age. And looking back on it, hindsight is 20/20 and you say "Why didn't I realize that?" He was extremely verbally homophobic, but that appears to have been a smoke screen.
I was still in his cell phone contact list, so I got a call from the detective investigating the allegations. Again, I wish I had considered that was happening, but I was shocked. When questioned, I gave the honest answer that we thought he was emotionally undeveloped so that's why he was hanging around with the kid. We also thought he was trying to smooth in on a single mother that way.
IIRC, he ended up with 300+ years of contiguous sentencing.
The game store is still around. It's kind of amazing it survived that, but they managed to make it through. I haven't been there much since I quit, but I don't think the owner hires employees anymore.
The worst part (for the store at least) was that the guy skipped bail and was on the lamb for a few months after his hearing, got captured, then had a trial and was sentenced. At each of those points the news had the storefront plastered all over the place so even more bad press. The store is definitely lucky to have survived it all.
It's a shame too, because the guy really helped the business grow and was always running tournies and events and building up a player base. We'd have up to 24 people in the back game room on game nights at that time. Now it's like 5. Of course the sad state of 40k is what really killed it for me. Besides the pedo tendencies he was a dream employee! (Not defending him in any way shape or form, a good friend of mine was one of his victims.)
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cuda1179 wrote: I thought the first arm was an accident. The second one was surely on purpose. In general I have huge veins that are extremely easy to poke, or so I've been told.
The worst part of the ordeal was that they refused to compensate me for anything because I couldn't donate anything do to having two messed-up arms.
I am so glad I don't give blood
Not that they pay you for it in Canada, so I really have no reason to.
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JohnHwangDD wrote: "neither"? I think you're forgetting about Betrayal at Calth, Execution Force, and Deathwatch : Overkill at a minimum.
I don't know what any of those are, I left the GW loop when AoS came out and I have no real idea what those are.
I play Kings of War now.
I also am checking out that 9th age thingie, had a game of that, it's pretty good!
Got to return to my old flgs haunt. Everytime I go there I feel like I am in the 80s or something.
It's like a time capsule.
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