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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





I played a game against a Space Wolf player and was astonished to find out that my Abaddon's Black Crusader trait is nearly useless.

He stated that Preferred Enemy: Space Marine only applied to Tactical Space marines, Assault Squad, Devastators, and marines on bikes.

No vehicles, such as rhino, razorback, Land Raider, Storm Raven / Talon etc...
No terminators, dread naughts, scouts, Long Fangs, Grey Hunters, wolves, any HQ not in power armor etc...
If it doesn't not say Space Marine or does not wear power armor then Preferred Enemy: Space Marine does not work.

Please tell me this is bullShi1!

How do Grey Knights get to apply their bonus on daemons and any Chaos Space Marine?
   
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine





In The depths of a Tomb World, placing demo charges.

Well it says in the chaos codex that preferred enemy applies to ALL units in ALL space Marine codexes

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Your opponent is full of crap.

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Designer's Note:
Some rules in this book provide Preferred Enemy or Hatred (Space Marines). The category "Space Marines" comprises all units taken from the following codexes: Space Marines, Black Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Grey Knights, and Space Wolves.

Pg. 28 CSM

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Kovnik





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Your opponent was trying to stay alive.
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





So does that also apply to vehicles? Do I get to re-roll to penetrate? or damage result?

what about the wolves?

Any variation of a Marine in Termi/scout and being renamed to Grey Hunter, Long Fang, Neophyte does count right?

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Filch, check page 28 of the Chaos Space Marine codex.

Literally, word for word

"The category 'Space Marines' comprises all units taken from the following codexes: Space Marines, Black Templars, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Grey Knights and Space Wolves."


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Does forge world units count too?

   
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Yes. Anything belonging to a Space Marine codex counts.

So what rules are you proposing?
   
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Prefered Enemy does not give you a reroll to Penetration against vehicles. Nor will it give you a reroll against the Damage Result, either. Prefered Enemy only gives you rerolls on rolls to Hit and to Wound.

It will give you a reroll to hit them, though.

So does that also apply to vehicles? Do I get to re-roll to penetrate? or damage result? [/quote

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Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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That wolf brother has shamed his clan with his actions.
   
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 Filch wrote:


How do Grey Knights get to apply their bonus on daemons and any Chaos Space Marine?


This is also incorrect, Grey Knights only have PE for Daemons, not CSM.

I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... 
   
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Water-Caste Negotiator





Technically this thread should be in YMDC.

 motyak wrote:
 Filch wrote:


How do Grey Knights get to apply their bonus on daemons and any Chaos Space Marine?


This is also incorrect, Grey Knights only have PE for Daemons, not CSM.


UNLESS the CSM unit has the Daemon USR, such as Obliterators, Mutilators, Warp Talons or Possessed.

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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... 
   
 
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