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Played a game last night where I had my RP manning the quad gun. It was a 1500 game and I was running IG with SW ally. Had my chooser sitting out in the middle of the board so it could see everything. Time to roll for RP's psyker powers. Rolled a 5 on divination. I normally play necrons so I'm not all that familiar with the whole psyker card thing. I knew I wanted prescience to throw back at a autogun infantry unit but #5 looked ok so I took it and the primaris power. Hohummm....OMG #5 rocked! What a combination! So my opponent flies up with his helldrake. I had already donned my psyker #5 ability. So let's see...TL S7 hit on 2's and I get to reroll failed wounds. OMG! Hit all four times and rerolled wounds for a 5, 5 and a 6. He didn't make any of his 5+ saves. I think my opponent was going to cry - I know I would have...while it's highly unlikely I could ever do that again (or manage to get precognition for that matter) what a great combo if you can get it!

Does re-rolling wounds apply to vehicles (as this would be armor penetration)?

 Green is Best! wrote:
Does re-rolling wounds apply to vehicles (as this would be armor penetration)?

No

Really??? Darn....thought that seemed too good to be true...

 necron99 wrote:
Played a game last night where I had my RP manning the quad gun. It was a 1500 game and I was running IG with SW ally. Had my chooser sitting out in the middle of the board so it could see everything. Time to roll for RP's psyker powers. Rolled a 5 on divination. I normally play necrons so I'm not all that familiar with the whole psyker card thing. I knew I wanted prescience to throw back at a autogun infantry unit but #5 looked ok so I took it and the primaris power. Hohummm....OMG #5 rocked! What a combination! So my opponent flies up with his helldrake. I had already donned my psyker #5 ability. So let's see...TL S7 hit on 2's and I get to reroll failed wounds. OMG! Hit all four times and rerolled wounds for a 5, 5 and a 6. He didn't make any of his 5+ saves. I think my opponent was going to cry - I know I would have...while it's highly unlikely I could ever do that again (or manage to get precognition for that matter) what a great combo if you can get it!

You just became my #1 person to stay away from. Well done.

 Houndmaster wrote:
You just became my #1 person to stay away from. Well done.

That's not very nice. Although, I'm sure you've never made a mistake in rules interpretation so may not want to hang out with mere mortals.

 Houndmaster wrote:

 necron99 wrote:
Played a game last night where I had my RP manning the quad gun. It was a 1500 game and I was running IG with SW ally. Had my chooser sitting out in the middle of the board so it could see everything. Time to roll for RP's psyker powers. Rolled a 5 on divination. I normally play necrons so I'm not all that familiar with the whole psyker card thing. I knew I wanted prescience to throw back at a autogun infantry unit but #5 looked ok so I took it and the primaris power. Hohummm....OMG #5 rocked! What a combination! So my opponent flies up with his helldrake. I had already donned my psyker #5 ability. So let's see...TL S7 hit on 2's and I get to reroll failed wounds. OMG! Hit all four times and rerolled wounds for a 5, 5 and a 6. He didn't make any of his 5+ saves. I think my opponent was going to cry - I know I would have...while it's highly unlikely I could ever do that again (or manage to get precognition for that matter) what a great combo if you can get it!

You just became my #1 person to stay away from. Well done.

He got a rule wrong - he didn't stab his opponant to death.

Since you're in hong kong (according to your flag) and the op is in the usa, I imagine staying away from him should be fairly easy for you.

After your comment, the op might want you to stay away too.

Even though the OP was wrong on his rule interpretation, he is right that Rune Priests and Divination are generally murder combined with long range fire support.

Anyone whose seen the "ignores cover" rule used in conjunction with a Long Fangs pack understands how much destruction that unit can unleash.

I think Houndmaster was more commenting on the unpleasantness of the army combination, rather than the mis-interpretation of rules

 derpyhooves72 wrote:
Even though the OP was wrong on his rule interpretation, he is right that Rune Priests and Divination are generally murder combined with long range fire support.

Anyone whose seen the "ignores cover" rule used in conjunction with a Long Fangs pack understands how much destruction that unit can unleash.

Indeed. I've been seriously considering those 50pts for another warp charge. Reroll misses and ignore cover? feth yeah! Still...50pts is a lot ):

 Flinty wrote:
I think Houndmaster was more commenting on the unpleasantness of the army combination, rather than the mis-interpretation of rules

Agreed. thats the way I read it then read down and he was getting flamed hard.

 Griddlelol wrote:

 derpyhooves72 wrote:
Even though the OP was wrong on his rule interpretation, he is right that Rune Priests and Divination are generally murder combined with long range fire support.

Anyone whose seen the "ignores cover" rule used in conjunction with a Long Fangs pack understands how much destruction that unit can unleash.

Indeed. I've been seriously considering those 50pts for another warp charge. Reroll misses and ignore cover? feth yeah! Still...50pts is a lot ):

If the ignores cover power had a better than 2 x 1/6 chance of coming up then no one would pass it up.

I don't think the 50 points for Master of Runes is worth it... it COULD be in certain games / scenarios, but the divination table is too random... also, it forces you to take a non shooting codex power in case you decide to go that route. I'd rather have Jaws in my bag of tricks than Storm Caller or any other non shooting power (the other being Living Lightning obviously).

Too random for 50 points imo. I also try not to use my Rune Priest as the warlord, so cheaper is usually better.

 derpyhooves72 wrote:


If the ignores cover power had a better than 2 x 1/6 chance of coming up then no one would pass it up.

Well only 2 of the powers suck for the RP in the roles I use him in (Precog and Scrier's Gaze), so it's more 2x1/6 chance of getting something bad. Even if you get 1 bad you can swap it out for the primaris anyway.
It's more the fact that 50pts is half the cost of a whole RP. Two is better than one.

In my SW list a RP is always my Warlord, but he rarely dies unless I've lost anyway. In my IG list I think I'd prefer more guns. Although the idea of a Medusa rerolling to hit and ignoring cover sounds delicious. Or a 4++ on a unit, or firing overwatch at Full BS, while twin linked.
Gah! I'm practically convinsing myself here.

Divination IS amazing. Remember that Perfect Timing (ignore cover) only works on the caster and his unit, so you can't cast it on Medusas.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Divination IS amazing. Remember that Perfect Timing (ignore cover) only works on the caster and his unit, so you can't cast it on Medusas.

gak, totally missed that. Skimming rules is rarely a good idea. Still, with a blob squad toting plasma and lascannons that could still be terrifying for my opponent.

It's pretty darn great on anti-flyer units too, to nullify Jink saves for Evading. Of course Helldrakes don't care, but the rest do.

 Griddlelol wrote:

 derpyhooves72 wrote:
Even though the OP was wrong on his rule interpretation, he is right that Rune Priests and Divination are generally murder combined with long range fire support.

Anyone whose seen the "ignores cover" rule used in conjunction with a Long Fangs pack understands how much destruction that unit can unleash.

Indeed. I've been seriously considering those 50pts for another warp charge. Reroll misses and ignore cover? feth yeah! Still...50pts is a lot ):

for that 50 points you get 1 additional power
for 100 points you get a second runepriest and 1 additional power

 Exergy wrote:


for that 50 points you get 1 additional power
for 100 points you get a second runepriest and 1 additional power

Might want to continue reading before you comment. I already included that as a reason not to take Master of Runes.

 Griddlelol wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Divination IS amazing. Remember that Perfect Timing (ignore cover) only works on the caster and his unit, so you can't cast it on Medusas.

gak, totally missed that. Skimming rules is rarely a good idea. Still, with a blob squad toting plasma and lascannons that could still be terrifying for my opponent.

It happens, a week into 6th we had a small tournament at my FLGS. I read the Divination power that rerolls saves as being the psyker and his unit, not just the psyker. My terminators were unstoppable.