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Hi,
while Harry still thinks that 9th edition comes next year, Hastings changed his mind and now is certain that it will come 2015, a year later.
Here the Fantasy release schedule according to Hastings:

2013:
High Elves
Lizardmen

2014
Dark Elves
Dwarfs
Wood Elves

2015
Bretonnia
Orks&Goblins
9th edition

Harry is certain that 9th edition will be more than a quick fix, featuring big changes. A new wave of job openings in the design studio last month (rules, background, painters) could be a sign of things to come. Here some recent quotes from Warseer:

75hastings69 wrote:I was actually discussing with Harry about a month or so ago that next WFB is not till 2015.

An extra year would allow all armies to get treatment before new edition in 2015.

2013

HE
Lizardmen

2014

DE
Dwarfs
Brets(?)

2015

WE (?)
Skaven (?)
9th edition

Personally I'd swap WE & Brets around and change Skaven to O&G....... but that's just me

Harry wrote:

Avian wrote:

NatTreehouse wrote:9th edition rumors
Major overhall and not like all the other "major" ones - radical rethink. Ricks gone so other people want to get their hands on it.
All army books gone and Ravening Hordes replacement
Timeline moves forward
So many changes won't come out before 2015, not next year (Memphis got panties in a bunch about this)

This is essentially a repeat of the rumours we had before both 8th edition and 7th edition. They are made up this time as well, which should be blindingly obvious from the suggestion that they are redoing all army books.
Just nonsense. Move along.

Says you. Based on what?

Avian wrote:Yeah, the mention of 2015 wasn't the thing that made people realize it was an invented rumour.
While I would hope that 9th comes soon to fix some of the problems I have with eighth

It is not an invented rumour. 9th will be more than a quick fix.
I posted months ago to hint as much. I first heard this last year. I have heard it a few times since.
(...)
When I said I thought 'it was 2014 but opinions vary' was because I was hearing different things from different folks.
When it comes to rumours I almost always go with what hastings says ... as he is almost always right.
So if his sources are saying 2015 ... then thats probably right.

As for the 'big changes' stuff ... you may want to hold off on the salt a bit.

Marked_by_chaos over at Warseer wrote:Every now and then I have a look at the job vacancies on the gw site out of interest. Recently the nature of adverts and types of jobs seems to have changed. There was in particular a big explosion of design studio jobs advertised at the end of last month. Seems like they are looking for everything from rules writers to background writers to army painters to video/hobby/painting presenters.

Perhaps they're starting to a get a bit more professional about design studio recruitment i.e. not a weird in house Recruitment process but an attempt to recruit the most effective staff. Some of the jobs indicate a new direction in project work, particularly the split between a rule writer and background writer role. One can only hope for no more kaldor draigos.

Wait

Orcs and Goblins will get a 8.5 book?

Hmmmm

To be precise, Hastings commented on the release schedule, so there is some room for speculation, whether O&G are released just before or just after 9th edition.

Such little hope for Bretonnia makes me sad.

orkybenji wrote:
Such little hope for Bretonnia makes me sad.

Such is the mark of bretonnian!

Why would they give O&G another book so quickly? Unless they have some more models to shift, it seems a touch pointless to re-release the army book within the same edition.

Again: O&G being 4 weeks before or after 9th edition release is of no importance, it still will be a 9th edition army book.
Also, 4.5 years between two army books is not super quick, it is just quicker than Wood Elf army books.

So the rumour is basically that all armies will get a hardcover army book within the next 2 years and then 3 months later they will all be invalidated with a Ravening Hordes pamphlet.

Right.

Isn't the other thread exactly for information like this?

Buff Goblins please!

Seriously though, I can hardly wait the tasty, tasty tears of frog players now having balanced casters

All army books gone and Ravening Hordes replacement

What exactly do they mean by this??

The sad thing is that everything they'll change will be aimed at selling us more stuff they want us to want... instead of improving the rules and making it a better game.

 TBD wrote:

All army books gone and Ravening Hordes replacement

What exactly do they mean by this??

The sad thing is that everything they'll change will be aimed at selling us more stuff they want us to want... instead of improving the rules and making it a better game.

It's what happened in 6th. Ravening Hordes was a booklet that replaced the older Army Books, required because of the changes to how armies were constructed from how it was done in 4th/5th.

Basically, if this happens, it means that there's such a change in how armies are created that the current Army Books will be utterly useless in constructing a playable army.

2014 (and to some degree, 2015) cannot come soon enough. I'd like to see what they do with the Dwarfs. They were the first WHFB army I played with and I've been thinking of revisiting them.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 TBD wrote:

All army books gone and Ravening Hordes replacement

What exactly do they mean by this??

The sad thing is that everything they'll change will be aimed at selling us more stuff they want us to want... instead of improving the rules and making it a better game.

It's what happened in 6th. Ravening Hordes was a booklet that replaced the older Army Books, required because of the changes to how armies were constructed from how it was done in 4th/5th.

Basically, if this happens, it means that there's such a change in how armies are created that the current Army Books will be utterly useless in constructing a playable army.

So basically they could be selling people brand new army books (for example) late 2014 that would be completely useless less than a year later?

I am not sure what to say....

 TBD wrote:


So basically they could be selling people brand new army books (for example) late 2014 that would be completely useless less than a year later?

I am not sure what to say....

It wouldn't be the first time. They released the SoB book in 2nd edition less than a year before 3rd was released and the 2nd edition Necron White Dwarf list only 2-3 months before.

And more relevantly, the very first Vampire Counts book was released about a year before 6th edition was.

 djphranq wrote:
2014 (and to some degree, 2015) cannot come soon enough. I'd like to see what they do with the Dwarfs. They were the first WHFB army I played with and I've been thinking of revisiting them.

They can leave Dwarfs alone till 9th, thankyouverymuch...

So no DE until 2014 blows as that army needs the plastic kits and army balancing far more than HE do.

I'd also rather have 9th be next year, but I'd rather see new WE and Brets more provided they are designed with any major changes from 9th in mind. To me that is a major point as those armies have seen steep hurdles in recent editions into their overall viability.

The biggest concern for me and 9th is that it damn well better remove Steadfast or introduce at least 3-5 ways to negate it entirely without just running an even deeper bus.

Other changes I'd like would be Charging reverted back to what it was before(randomly failing charges is stupid) and ASF on the charge against any target that doesn't have ASF or something along those lines.

 Dysartes wrote:

 djphranq wrote:
2014 (and to some degree, 2015) cannot come soon enough. I'd like to see what they do with the Dwarfs. They were the first WHFB army I played with and I've been thinking of revisiting them.

They can leave Dwarfs alone till 9th, thankyouverymuch...

oh god. my wallet begs that my "gateway drug" of dwarfs are left alone until a new, more worthy edition comes around.

(But those first armies are a fickle mistress)

Interesting. I'm hoping that this talk of a dramatic re-write is correct, because (personal opinion, yadda yadda) I am no fan of what WHFB became with the switch to Eighth Edition. WHFB had been my favorite game of any type, bar none, until Eighth Edition came about (and no, it wasn't because I had an uber win record, I was a sub .500 player). I still have my old Dark Elf and Beastmen armies, and would love to have a chance to use them as more than shelf-filler again.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So the rumour is basically that all armies will get a hardcover army book within the next 2 years and then 3 months later they will all be invalidated with a Ravening Hordes pamphlet.

Right.

Maybe that's why they don't tell us until the day pre-orders go up.

What? Bretonnians in 2015? Weren't they suppposed to be released this summer?

Vintersorg wrote:
What? Bretonnians in 2015? Weren't they suppposed to be released this summer?

When are rumors ever accurate

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So the rumour is basically that all armies will get a hardcover army book within the next 2 years and then 3 months later they will all be invalidated with a Ravening Hordes pamphlet.

Right.

No? Reread it. Avian said that a Ravening Hordes pamphlet is nonsense.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So the rumour is basically that all armies will get a hardcover army book within the next 2 years and then 3 months later they will all be invalidated with a Ravening Hordes pamphlet.

Right.

No? Reread it. Avian said that a Ravening Hordes pamphlet is nonsense.

Except he is only saying it because of the rumours which surrounded 7th & 8th implying the same thing.

Note Harry's response to Avian saying it was rubbish...

Unless its a pamphlet, a la ravening hordes, that acts as an update to all the existing army books, and brings them in line with each other/9th edition. Doesnt replace the books, but is used in conjunction with them. Then, they could charge whatever they wanted, as everyone will need it...

Vintersorg wrote:
What? Bretonnians in 2015? Weren't they suppposed to be released this summer?

Well, not according to my rumour summary since July 2012.

 Dysartes wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
No? Reread it. Avian said that a Ravening Hordes pamphlet is nonsense.

Except he is only saying it because of the rumours which surrounded 7th & 8th implying the same thing.
Note Harry's response to Avian saying it was rubbish...

Avian is trolling and hunting down every rumour poster on Warseer. That and the rumour-thread-rage-locking mods are the reasons, why less and less rumours come from Warseer

 Kroothawk wrote:

 Dysartes wrote:

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
No? Reread it. Avian said that a Ravening Hordes pamphlet is nonsense.

Except he is only saying it because of the rumours which surrounded 7th & 8th implying the same thing.
Note Harry's response to Avian saying it was rubbish...

Avian is trolling and hunting down every rumour poster on Warseer. That and the rumour-thread-rage-locking mods are the reasons, why less and less rumours come from Warseer

Any idea why Avian is being more of a tit than normal these days?

Why do the mods lock rumour threads at Warseer?

GW might have their fat, overpaid lawyers on the loose again.

I don't think lawyers can stop a discussion group from discussing rumours. That's a bridge to far, even for Games "We hold copyright over arrows and skulls" Workshop.