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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 12:48:57
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Hey
So I'm looking at modelling this guy from the below picture - I love the image, and the chapters one of the most interesting out there. I need your help in finding suitable bone spikes that will look the right scale though. Ideally, they'd be identical to those in the picture - rounded and sharp to the point, at sufficient scale to look right on this guys arms (though I can trim them down if they're too big of course).
I was looking at tyranid parts, though they all seem flat sided which doesn't really match what I'm looking for.
Any thoughts please?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 13:26:56
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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You could try trimming spare sprue
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 18:28:50
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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That's a cool idea, notn sure I'd be able to get them both even and cylindrical though I'll give it a whirl
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 18:32:08
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Leader of the Sept
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What about toothpicks?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/13 19:02:34
Subject: Re:Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Stalwart Strike Squad Grey Knight
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Take a look at Chaos Spawn they tend to be covered in spikes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 00:12:10
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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I could be completely wrong here but I'm sure someone did a small converted Black Dragons army in an old WD. I can't remember what issue unfortunately but would guess at late 200's - mid 300's. Sadly all I can remember is that he converted some of the blades for the arms by using Tyranid scything claws from Hormagaunts. I know it might not be exactly what you're looking for but if you could find the article it could be worth a look.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 00:23:25
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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Empire archer bows, just have to sharpen the ends, will work great
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/14 13:37:16
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Flinty wrote:What about toothpicks?
Interesting idea, though I wouldn't be able to get the curve out of them... I could build it up with green stuff though I was hoping for a quicker and easier solution
The_Satin_One wrote:Take a look at Chaos Spawn they tend to be covered in spikes.
Had a look, and it seems that there's one very good option in there... it may a little thick though should be able to trim this down as long as it doesn't end up being too short
Adamski Alders wrote:I could be completely wrong here but I'm sure someone did a small converted Black Dragons army in an old WD. I can't remember what issue unfortunately but would guess at late 200's - mid 300's. Sadly all I can remember is that he converted some of the blades for the arms by using Tyranid scything claws from Hormagaunts. I know it might not be exactly what you're looking for but if you could find the article it could be worth a look.
Interesting, I'll see if I can get anything off google, thanks! I did have a look at the nids, though thought the blades looked to be too flat when I want rounded extrusions...
nathanie1 wrote:Empire archer bows, just have to sharpen the ends, will work great
And here we have it - exactly what I'm looking for! I don't think there's a better solution out there given that I only need to spend about 30p from a bits site for one of these that will do for two blades! Thanks so much man!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/20 23:28:10
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Nimble Skeleton Charioteer
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no problem dude, let me know how they turn out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/21 01:37:14
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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I'll post pictures here, though it'll be a while as I need to get paid first!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 01:15:24
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Guys - need your help again
What mark armour is he wearing? Or is it a mix? The legs look like mk3, the torso is closer to maybe a mk4, the helmet is easily mk7 as is presumably the jump pack.
Any thoughts? Automatically Appended Next Post: Also any recommendations on kits that have transfers matching those seem on his armour? Especially the chest piece.
Thanks again
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 01:31:45
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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The chest pice I think is an earlier mark, possibly almost heresy era as the cabling around the stomach is exposed and it was during the heresy that they created a amrk that covered up the gut wires and plugs to protect the circuitry (Raven Guard I believe came up with the design... It could almost be Corvus then). I wouldnt be sure on the mark of armour for it though.
Basically build and use what you think would look right if you are going to make a large force of them. Mixing and matching vairants or using complete armour variants on some, just saying that over the years they have needed to find or use newer or older bits of armour to repair damages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/29 01:54:34
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Well. I'm definitely not an expert on power armor but he could also wear completely mk7 armor just without the aquilla and and a little bit of changes to the armor plates with trimmings.
All armor up until mk7 seems to have either some exposed cableing on the armor or a more segmented chest piece. But the artwork has not. The only thing that is missing is the aquilla. And as techmarines and other hq has shown us that the aquilla isn't a nessacary part of the armor.
The legs are hard to make out due to shadows but they can also easily be mk7.
That is what i gathered looking through the pictures on lexicanum: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Power_Armour#.UVTyd1eRcpM
And i can't think of any transfers like that. I don't know how good your sculpting skills are but you could sculpt them on and later create a press mold for it. I have done it for my loyalist army and it works.
And i don't know if you have seen this. It might inspire you:
http://fromthewarp.blogspot.de/2011/11/black-dragon-veteran-sergeant.html
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/31 23:45:41
Subject: Re:Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Thanks for the replies guys, really helpful, especially the Lexicanum link! For some reason it never occurred to me to check there...
Anyway, here's what I think I need to buy in:
Legs & arms- Mk3 Iron Pattern
Torso & shoulder pads - Mk2 Crusade Pattern
Helmet & jump pack - Mk7 Aquila (doubt a picture is required for these!)
Looks as though all I'll need to do is to file the bolts off and we're good!
One thing's for sure. I'll only be doing one of these guys! Sound bloody pricey! Still, at least I don't need to worry about buying in any special weapons for him!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/01 00:52:26
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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I don't know how good you are with little GS conversion work. Because there might be some bitz from Anvil Industry that can be converted to look like the picture.
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home
The medieval set might work for arms and legs.
One of their torsos might also be converted to work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/01 02:28:30
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Bounding Dark Angels Assault Marine
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Adamski Alders wrote:I could be completely wrong here but I'm sure someone did a small converted Black Dragons army in an old WD. I can't remember what issue unfortunately but would guess at late 200's - mid 300's. Sadly all I can remember is that he converted some of the blades for the arms by using Tyranid scything claws from Hormagaunts. I know it might not be exactly what you're looking for but if you could find the article it could be worth a look.
Not sure which WD, but I know they were in the 2004 chapter approved. Hope that helps narrow your search!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/01 21:34:05
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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btldoomhammer wrote:I don't know how good you are with little GS conversion work. Because there might be some bitz from Anvil Industry that can be converted to look like the picture.
http://www.anvilindustry.co.uk/index.php?route=common/home
The medieval set might work for arms and legs.
One of their torsos might also be converted to work.
It's certainly an option, though I would prefer to stick with GW / FW just so I can argue that they are GW products if I ever use them in a game at my flgs. Unlikely, though I think I have a little OCD for using conversion parts for conversions and not full modelling projects...
IndigoJack wrote: Adamski Alders wrote:I could be completely wrong here but I'm sure someone did a small converted Black Dragons army in an old WD. I can't remember what issue unfortunately but would guess at late 200's - mid 300's. Sadly all I can remember is that he converted some of the blades for the arms by using Tyranid scything claws from Hormagaunts. I know it might not be exactly what you're looking for but if you could find the article it could be worth a look.
Not sure which WD, but I know they were in the 2004 chapter approved. Hope that helps narrow your search!
Awesome, thanks I'll look it up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 06:29:02
Subject: Modelling the Black Dragons - part recommendation
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Grey Knights 7500 points
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