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Ok so simple question about what is the order you do thinds. The smash rule says a monsterous creatur can halve it's number of attacks to make S10 attacks. A daemon weapon gives the bearer additional D6 attacks (assuming you don't roll a 1). I elect to smash with my Dp, do i roll my daemon weapon before i halve the amount of attacks he has or do i halve his attacks and then roll his daemon weapon. I'll give examples of the two different ways to play it.

Example 1: DP charges and has 6 attacks on the charge (not a khorn prince) he elects to smash, we halve his attacks and he then rolls a 3 for his daemon weapon giving him 6 attacks.

Example 2: DP charges and has 6 attacks on the charge (not a khorn prince) he rolls a 3 on his daemon weapon giving him 9 attacks, I then elect to Smash and we halve his number of attacks rounding down the Daemon prince now has 4 attacks.

Which is the right way to play it? I think example one but what does dakka think and why?
   
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Look in the rulebook. It clearly explains the order in which modifiers are applied.

If you have any doubt as to where, looking in the index for "modifiers" will send you on the right path.

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Pony_law wrote:
Ok so simple question about what is the order you do thinds. The smash rule says a monsterous creatur can halve it's number of attacks to make S10 attacks. A daemon weapon gives the bearer additional D6 attacks (assuming you don't roll a 1). I elect to smash with my Dp, do i roll my daemon weapon before i halve the amount of attacks he has or do i halve his attacks and then roll his daemon weapon. I'll give examples of the two different ways to play it.

Example 1: DP charges and has 6 attacks on the charge (not a khorn prince) he elects to smash, we halve his attacks and he then rolls a 3 for his daemon weapon giving him 6 attacks.

This procedure is incorrect. you only halve your base attacks, not the attacks from Charging or anything else.
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Both examples are wrong, The Daemon Prince has its 5 attacks halved (rounded up) to 3, then the +1 for charging, +d6 for its weapon and any other bonuses are added.

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You multiply/ divide, then add subtract, just as the rulebook tells you to.

Furthermore the khorne prince has rage, so he gets +2 for charging.

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You also ALWAYS round up, exactly as the rulebook tells you
   
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 juraigamer wrote:
You multiply/ divide, then add subtract, just as the rulebook tells you to.

Furthermore the khorne prince has rage, so he gets +2 for charging.


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Hmm your right. Now the CD and CSM books are fusing into some warp entity in my head and I can't separate them.

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The order in witch modifiers are applied doesn't really matter in this instance.
According to BRB p. 24, the number of attacks you make is: (Attacks Characteristic) +(1 for Two Weapons) +(1 for Charging) +(Other Bonuses)
Smash attack halves your Attack Characteristic so it has no effect on the other bonuses you have.
So it should be: 3(Attacks Characteristic/2 rounded up) +(1 for Charging) +(d6 from Daemon Weapon(Other Bonuses))
So you would have 4+d6 attacks.

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