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The Ork Big Mek can take a Junka as a dedicated transport. If I also take Kommandos led by Snikrot, which a Big Mek could join and so be able to outflank, would the whole unit be able to outflank inside the Junka Transport?

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I dont see anything preventing it. Only restrictions are "at least one model with outflank special rule" in the unit.

And if it has a dedicated transport you have to come on the table embarked in it. BRB p.40

Aw man, I seriously hope nobody comes and rains on my parade here because that would be fantastic news.

A Dedicated Transport can only contain, at the beginning of the game, "the unit it was selected with (plus any Independent Characters that have joined it)."

The Junka is not the Kommando's dedicated transport, nor are the Kommandos IC's attached to the unit that did buy it, so they can't be embarked upon it at the beginning of the game. Thus Snikrot can't be embarked on it, and can't grant if Infiltrate and thus Outflank.

Chrysis wrote:
A Dedicated Transport can only contain, at the beginning of the game, "the unit it was selected with (plus any Independent Characters that have joined it)."

The Junka is not the Kommando's dedicated transport, nor are the Kommandos IC's attached to the unit that did buy it, so they can't be embarked upon it at the beginning of the game. Thus Snikrot can't be embarked on it, and can't grant if Infiltrate and thus Outflank.

Missed that part. Seems correct. But its not "at the beginning of the game" but "when it is deployed". BRB P. 78

But still preventing this tactic.

Its an interesting issue of semantics. Independant characters joun squads and become part of the squad for all intents and purposes. At that point, arguably the unit that purchased the dedicated transport no longer exists so no other unit could start in the transport. How does this logic stack up against the wording of ICs joining units?

 Flinty wrote:
Its an interesting issue of semantics. Independant characters joun squads and become part of the squad for all intents and purposes. At that point, arguably the unit that purchased the dedicated transport no longer exists so no other unit could start in the transport. How does this logic stack up against the wording of ICs joining units?

Jeah since this would also prevent any unit like boys to join the big mek in his transport during normal deployment too. Seems weird.

Not that weird, as the same dedicated transport rule has been around for 3 editions now (at least)

THere jsut arent many ICs that can take a dedicated transport. Lord commisars can, from memory

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Not that weird, as the same dedicated transport rule has been around for 3 editions now (at least)

THere jsut arent many ICs that can take a dedicated transport. Lord commisars can, from memory

It being there for 3 editions doesnt make it less weird. I think they will just take out those options when redoing the codices so that problem shouldnt occur anymore. At least i hope so .

Dedicated transports are totally bogus. Taking a unit just to get say, a Trukk for another unit, is ridiculous

If the Kommandos have infiltrate, this is also barred.

 Dakkamite wrote:
Dedicated transports are totally bogus. Taking a unit just to get say, a Trukk for another unit, is ridiculous

Yet they are part of the game and in the rules. If you don't like it, you and your buddies you play with can agree to change the rules to whatever you all want. Otherwise, deal with the fact they are in the game and that is how they work.

 Mywik wrote:
It being there for 3 editions doesnt make it less weird. I think they will just take out those options when redoing the codices so that problem shouldnt occur anymore. At least i hope so .

For Orks, this has been a problem in 2 separate codexes so far... In the 3rd edition codex it was even worse, since Warbosses could take a dedicated trukk of their own, and at that point in time dedicated transports could only ever transport the unit they were purchased for.