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I am not too sure how to interpret the effect of bladestorm.

For example. if a weapon str 3 hits a MC with a toughness of 7, the weapon cannot wound it. The wording is "A value of '-' indicates that the target cannot be wounded by the attack"

This makes me wonder if the Bladestorm's effect does come in or is it automatically rejected due to the fact that the weapon's base str wouldn't be able to affect it.

If does affect such high T models, it would be interesting to deal with Iron Arms Tervigons and other monstrous/biomancy creatures.

While the Bladestorm rules doesn't say "wounded regardless of toughness" it does say that models are "wounded automatically" which seems to imply that Toughness doesn't matter.

While i dont own the eldar book, if the wording states "wounded automatically" then i would assume this bypasses the normal rules of wounding something you normally couldnt.

Correct. Auto wounding negates the fact that it wouldn't other wise be able to inflict a wound.

Could have just called it Rending and kept things simpler.

No, because then everyone would go shooting vehicles.

The wording is (hope I am not breaking site rules):

Bladestorm : When a weapon with this special rule rolls a 6 to wound, the target is wounded automatically and the wound is resolved at AP2.

...and as was posted before me, this is not rending. Bladestorm doesn't have any effect on vehicles as the ability has effects on "Wounds"

 chelsea_hollywood wrote:
While the Bladestorm rules doesn't say "wounded regardless of toughness" it does say that models are "wounded automatically" which seems to imply that Toughness doesn't matter.

this is how I originally interpreted it. wounded automatically seems to imply that the toughness is irreverent.

If Bladestorm was limited to only things you could wound normally, then there would be no need for it to say a roll of a 6 wounds automatically because a roll of a 6 would be causing a wound anyway. Telling you that a roll of a 6 wounds automatically only has any meaning if that isn't normally the case.

Chrysis wrote:
If Bladestorm was limited to only things you could wound normally, then there would be no need for it to say a roll of a 6 wounds automatically because a roll of a 6 would be causing a wound anyway. Telling you that a roll of a 6 wounds automatically only has any meaning if that isn't normally the case.

Exactly this. This is the only thing it can possibly mean.

Chrysis wrote:
If Bladestorm was limited to only things you could wound normally, then there would be no need for it to say a roll of a 6 wounds automatically because a roll of a 6 would be causing a wound anyway. Telling you that a roll of a 6 wounds automatically only has any meaning if that isn't normally the case.

this

Chrysis wrote:
If Bladestorm was limited to only things you could wound normally, then there would be no need for it to say a roll of a 6 wounds automatically because a roll of a 6 would be causing a wound anyway. Telling you that a roll of a 6 wounds automatically only has any meaning if that isn't normally the case.

Very good point. Thank you very much!

Main use is to bypass all those crazy iron arm T10 madness that 6th edition created without actually making the weapons into sniper rule.

I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

...Why?

You play it that all Wounds caused ignore armour? You must have very short games!

Iranna.

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

I think you need to go back and re-read some of your rule book.
It doesn't work like that.

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

You can still get Invulnerable or cover save.

Iranna wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

...Why?

You play it that all Wounds caused ignore armour? You must have very short games!

Iranna.

The rules read that a roll of 6 to wound is an automatic wound resolved at AP2. Im yet to fined anything with a save of 1+. And AP does not effect Inv or cover. Why not just say auto wound like rending?

Just a little confused by the rule is all.

noghri wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

You can still get Invulnerable or cover save.

Ap does not effect Inv or cover saves.

 cerbrus2 wrote:

Iranna wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

...Why?

You play it that all Wounds caused ignore armour? You must have very short games!

Iranna.

The rules read that a roll of 6 to wound is an automatic wound resolved at AP2. Im yet to fined anything with a save of 1+. And AP does not effect Inv or cover. Why not just say auto wound like rending?

Just a little confused by the rule is all.

noghri wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

You can still get Invulnerable or cover save.

Ap does not effect Inv or cover saves.

AP2 means that the model wounded will get no armour save against it. What is so difficult to get about this rule? It's not rending because then people would try and go shooting vehicles. Automatically wounded doesn't mean that the model gets no armour saves.

 cerbrus2 wrote:

Iranna wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

...Why?

You play it that all Wounds caused ignore armour? You must have very short games!

Iranna.

The rules read that a roll of 6 to wound is an automatic wound resolved at AP2. Im yet to fined anything with a save of 1+. And AP does not effect Inv or cover. Why not just say auto wound like rending?

Just a little confused by the rule is all.

noghri wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
I still dont get why it has an AP2 Value. If its automatically wounded then there will be no Armour saves anyway.

You can still get Invulnerable or cover save.

Ap does not effect Inv or cover saves.

Because rending allows more Str against vehicles, and this rule doesn't

A model would also get an armor save against Rending except that its AP2.
Auto-wound just means that you count the die as a wound regardless of SvT.

Oh lawd, my poor Tervigons!