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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 14:00:02
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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So, unpleasant groundswell of support for the EDL recently, especially given anti-Islamic rhetoric from the group, in response some Islamic lads decided that the rhetoric warranted blowing them all up with nailbombs...
except these fethwits arrive 2 hours late...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317029/English-Defence-League-terror-plot-6-Islamic-extremists-plead-guilty-EDL-rally-bomb-attack-plan.html
Chilling arsenal of terrorists who targeted far-Right rally: Bomb gang were caught only because their car wasn't insured
They arrived at rally at 4pm - only to find it had finished at 2pm
Extremists' car stopped on their way home because it had no insurance
Vehicle is towed with a cache of weapons hidden inside
They had a nail bomb, two shotguns and swords - but they weren't found at the compound for TWO DAYS
Group didn't take mobiles with them on day of the attack to avoid detection
Jewel Uddin was involved in another bomb plot which could have been 'bigger than the 7/7 atrocities'
By ARTHUR MARTIN
PUBLISHED: 04:49 EST, 30 April 2013 | UPDATED: 03:27 EST, 1 May 2013
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This terrifying collection of shotguns, knives and samurai swords was discovered in the boot of a car carrying six British jihadists who plotted to kill and maim hundreds of people.
A nail bomb packed with 458 pieces of shrapnel and parts for a pipe bomb were also found.
The gang had evaded the security services and their car was only searched after being impounded because the driver did not have insurance.
Scroll down for video of the arrests and the EDL rally
Plotters: Jewell Uddin, who was also linked to another terror plot, and Anzal Hussain who today admitted planning the attack on the EDL rally in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, in June last year
Guilty: Mohammed Hasseen, left, and Omar Khan who today admitted their role at Woolwich Crown COurt
Court: Zohaib Ahmed and Mohammed Saud were also involved in the plot which only unravelled by chance
The terrorists plotted to detonate a bomb at an English Defence League rally, which would have caused hundreds of casualties, including police officers, bystanders and members of the far-Right protest group.
The terrorists now face lengthy jail sentences after admitting the plot – a protest against the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee – at Woolwich Crown Court yesterday.
The court heard that the men drove from Birmingham on June 30 last year to set off the bomb at the rally in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire.
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However, the meeting had finished early and by the time they arrived everyone had dispersed.
On the way back, the gang’s Renault Laguna was stopped by a policeman in a random spot-check on the M1. He impounded the car after discovering it was uninsured.
It later emerged that one of the terrorists had tried to insure it, but entered the wrong registration number on an online form.
The car was taken to a pound near Sheffield where it sat for two days until a worker found the weapons and ten copies of a note addressed to the Queen, David Cameron and ‘the enemies of Islam’.
Nail bomb: This 18-inch long device contains 458 pieces of shrapnel and was to be powered by explosives taken from at least two large fireworks
Explosive: Ball bearings and nails which were found inside the nail bomb when it was taken apart by police ballistics experts
Cache of weapons: A fearsome haul of knives which were found hidden inside the Laguna after it was pulled over because it had no insurance
It called the Queen a ‘female devil’ and accused her of ‘fooling a nation of blind sheep’. To the EDL, it said: ‘We love death more than you love life.’
Staff at the pound called the police, who called in counter- terrorism teams.
The next morning, Omar Khan phoned to ask if he could pick up the car and he and passenger Jewel Uddin were arrested, along with Mohammed Hasseen, who had not been in the car but whose fingerprints were found on the weapons.
Pipe bomb: These are parts of a partially put together pipe bomb which was seized by police
Other passengers Anzal Hussain, Zohaib Ahmed and Mohammed Saud were arrested after their taxi was stopped in Birmingham.
Police and MI5 had no idea about the plot, despite Uddin being named a ‘subject of interest’ in 2011 after he collected money for a terror cell, the members of which were jailed last week for more than 90 years for plotting suicide attacks using rucksack bombs.
Ahmed was on bail for separate terror charges, and Hussain was the brother of Ishaaq Hussain, who was jailed for 40 months for his part in the rucksack bomb plot.
EDL bomb plotters. Moment guilty men stopped
Rally: The plotters were targeting this EDL rally in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, but were foiled because they arrived too late - after the crowds had gone
It also emerged that police and security services saw Uddin and Khan go into a shop in Birmingham five days before the planned attack.
They bought kitchen knives but police were keeping their distance and didn’t see the purchase.
Uddin, 27, Ahmed, 22, Khan, 31, Hussain, 24, Saud, 22, and Hasseen, 23, were told to expect ‘significant custody’ by Judge Nicholas Hilliard, QC, who adjourned sentencing until June 6.
Marcus Beale, head of the counter terrorism unit at West Midlands Police, said: ‘We do not believe that any one individual failed because the dots were there and they did not join them up.’
Caught on camera: Five of the men are seen on CCTV in Dewsbury at approximately 4.37pm - two hours after the EDL rally had finished
Terror targets: EDL demonstrators were the target of the Muslim extremists at the rally in Dewsbury last June
Attack plan: Around 750 EDL members, rivals from Unite Against Fascism and dozens of police officers were at the rally which the Muslim extremists were targeting
Rally: Penned in by police, these are the EDL protesters in Dewsbury caught on police video from a helicopter. The gang of Muslim fanatics were targeting the protest
Rally finished early: The event was shorter than planned because EDL leader Tommy Robinson, a crowd pleaser, was not able to attend
How Islamic extremists were only foiled by chance
A series of coincidences saw the plan by Islamic fanatics to use bombs, guns and swords in a murderous attack on far-right extremists foiled.
Firstly, the five members of the gang who drove to the event on June 30 last year - all the men except Hasseen - made a mistake with their timing, arriving two hours late because the rally had finished earlier than expected.
The event was shorter than planned because EDL leader Tommy Robinson, a crowd pleaser, was not able to attend.
Seized: The group's Renault Laguna is stopped on the M1 motorway because it had no insurance and is seized - it was two days before the arsenal of weapons was discovered though
Then, as Khan and Uddin drove their silver Renault Laguna back towards Birmingham down the M1, it was recorded as uninsured when a traffic officer happened to carry out checks because the car looked old.
In fact the gang had tried to insure the Renault for one day that morning, but Saud had mistakenly entered the wrong registration number on an online form.
The car was seized because it had no insurance, and the officer took Uddin and Khan to a nearby train station so that they could get home.
It was taken to a pound near Sheffield by Woodhead Motors, and left there until the following Monday morning.
Staff then checked the contents of the car and found the gang's array of weapons including two shotguns, swords, knives, a nail bomb and a partially assembled pipe bomb, along with a hate-filled note ranting about the enemies of Islam.
It was only then that counter-terrorism units were called in, despite the fact that police and security services already had Uddin under low-level surveillance because he was on the periphery of another terrorist plot.
Held: Traffic police stop Jewell Uddin and Omar Mohammed Khan on the M1 as they travelled back to their home town, Birmingham and seize the vehicle
This was the plan by another group of extremists from Birmingham to set off up to eight rucksack bombs and possibly other devices in an attack that they wanted to be bigger than July 7.
Uddin had been seen with Khan going into a shop five days before the rally, but no officer followed them into Home Choice in Sparkhill because contact would have been too close.
In fact they were going to buy the kitchen knives that were among the weapons that the gang planned to use.
Neither counter-terrorist police or the security services had any intelligence to suggest that the men planned to stage an atrocity.
After their weapons were found, bomb squad were called to make the shrapnel-filled rocket safe, and said afterwards that it was 'viable', with the potential to cause serious injury or death.
Counter-terrorism teams launched a fast-moving operation, tracing Khan, who had initially given a false name, and his passenger by scouring CCTV.
Khan had the gall to call the pound to say that he needed to get something from the car, but unbeknown to him he was already under surveillance.
Police believe that he made the nail bomb because his fingerprint was discovered on the sticky side of tape found on the device.
West Midlands Police counter-terrorism unit also discovered that the Laguna was travelling with a gold Rover 25, and again used CCTV pictures to trace the three occupants.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 14:04:50
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Good to see a nice measured response.......
Especially after this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22852371
The leader of the English Defence League has told the BBC he "utterly condemns" attacks on Muslims.
Tommy Robinson denied claims his group had firebombed an Islamic community centre in London, where the letters EDL were sprayed on the building.
He admitted some of its tactics were "completely questionable", but said "working class people" had no choice.
Fiyaz Mughal, from interfaith group Faith Matters, said Mr Robinson's condemnation was "hollow".
"He is on record as saying he wants to teach Muslims a lesson," Mr Mughal added.
Mr Robinson was speaking after six men were jailed for planning to bomb an EDL rally in West Yorkshire.
The men, who all lived in or near Birmingham, were each jailed for more than 18 years. Their bomb plot failed because they arrived two hours after last year's rally in Dewsbury had finished.
'Completely sceptical'
Mr Robinson told BBC Radio 4's Today programme he condemned all acts of violence by EDL members and the group was about peaceful protest.
He denied his group was behind the blaze in Muswell Hill last week and said the graffiti could have been placed there to make it look as if the group was responsible.
"If something was set fire and someone wrote David Cameron on the side of it, does it mean he did it?" he said.
"If I'm honest, I'm completely sceptical that it is even non-Muslims that have done that."
The EDL describes itself as an "inclusive movement dedicated to peacefully protesting against Islamic extremism".
The group says it wants three things - the government to outline a "convincing strategy" for defeating Islamist extremism, the Muslim community to make "serious efforts" to counter extremism, and an open and honest debate about the issue.
It frequently holds demonstrations and has staged several since the killing of soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, south-east London.
Mr Robinson told the BBC "non-Muslim working-class communities" did not have a voice and warned "it's not going to end pretty".
"There is a massive undercurrent of anger across this country," he said.
Internment call
He continued: "Our tactics are completely questionable, yes, and I understand people who say you are going about it the wrong way, but what choice do we have as working class people, who, as soon as you put your head above the parapet, you are called a racist or a fascist?
"Who wants to sit down and talk to us?"
Continue reading the main story
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The insults were really awful, mums with their children”
Shaista Gohir
Muslim Women's Network UK
He called for the internment of Islamist extremists "recruiting on our streets" and the outlawing of all aspects of Sharia law, which he believed was operating in the UK.
"I'd stop the building of mosques in this country until Islam reforms in such a way and works in this country with Western democracy and freedom," he added.
Mr Mughal told the BBC News website: "You can't stop people having places of worship. That, in itself, is discriminatory.
"Democracy and Islam can live together. It's not Islam that's the problem, it's extreme elements within the Muslim community.
"Those elements develop because vulnerable young men come to believe inspirational leaders with extreme views."
'Intimidation'
He said Mr Robinson had become "an exact copy of what he says he is campaigning against" by targeting his message at disenfranchised young white men.
"If Tommy Robinson really wants to make a difference to the white working class community he should stand up for better training, better job opportunities, better aspiration - not just scapegoat the Muslim community."
Shaista Gohir, chairman of the Muslim Women's Network UK, told the BBC's Today programme the group had noticed a spike in reported incidents of abuse against Muslim women in the wake of the Woolwich murder.
"A lot of it was verbal abuse. Also intimidation while driving, which could lead to accidents. It was food and drink being thrown at them," she said.
"The insults were really awful, mums with their children. Definitely the incidents are getting worse. It's almost as if it's acceptable to do that kind of thing."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 14:07:28
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Dakka Veteran
Derbyshire, UK
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You're mistaken, this had nothing to do with the Woolwich murder. It was months ago. It's just in the news now because their trial was this week.
It's true that the EDL has tried to capitalise on the Woolwich murder, and probably some people have fallen for it and support them who didn't before, but the vast majority of people still think they're a bunch of fascist nutjobs.
All this proves is that your average would-be terrorist is an idiot. It's like this lot thought Four Lions was a training documentary or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 14:15:11
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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They had a nail bomb, two shotguns and swords - but they weren't found at the compound for TWO DAYS
The car was taken to a pound near Sheffield where it sat for two days until a worker found the weapons and ten copies of a note addressed to the Queen, David Cameron and ‘the enemies of Islam’.
Police and MI5 had no idea about the plot, despite Uddin being named a ‘subject of interest’ in 2011 after he collected money for a terror cell, the members of which were jailed last week for more than 90 years for plotting suicide attacks using rucksack bombs.
Colour me impressed......
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 16:21:43
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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i do like the fact that the E.D.L marched through swansea last week and loads of people with signs and placards saying stuff like "duck off home" and " your not in england" turned up to troll them :]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 16:22:21
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Hah! That is brilliant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 16:29:08
Subject: Re:Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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of course if you blow up the EDL guys, you give them credence and lots of support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 16:34:29
Subject: Re:Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Frazzled wrote:of course if you blow up the EDL guys, you give them credence and lots of support.
Yeah, for a group that focuses so much on martyrdom that seems to have escaped them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:29:39
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Battlefield Tourist
MN (Currently in WY)
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Well, it is always nice when extremist target each other instead of other non-extremists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:31:41
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Yeah, because the extremist-seeking shrapnel couldn't possibly harm an innocent by-stander, counter protester, or Police Officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 19:36:05
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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A lot of the world's problems could be solved with the invention of extremist seeking shrapnel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/12 22:18:23
Subject: Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Ontario
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I believe that's called a Hellfire Missile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 14:09:04
Subject: Re:Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Seems to be the typical islamic response to criticism.
i do like the fact that the E.D.L marched through swansea last week and loads of people with signs and placards saying stuff like "duck off home" and " your not in england" turned up to troll them :]
Swansea is in England.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 14:16:27
Subject: Re:Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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Mr Hyena wrote:Seems to be the typical islamic response to criticism.
i do like the fact that the E.D.L marched through swansea last week and loads of people with signs and placards saying stuff like "duck off home" and " your not in england" turned up to troll them :]
Swansea is in England.
Swansea is in Wales
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 14:51:50
Subject: Re:Islamic terrorists plot to blow up the EDL.
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea
Swansea (/ˈswɒnzi/ SWONZ-ee; Welsh: Abertawe [abɛrˈtauɛ], "mouth of the Tawe"), officially the City and County of Swansea is a coastal city and county in Wales. It is Wales's second largest city. Swansea lies within the historic county boundaries of Glamorgan. Situated on the sandy South West Wales coast, the county area includes the Gower Peninsula and the Lliw uplands. The City and County of Swansea had a population of 239,000 in 2011,[1] making it the second most populous local authority area in Wales after Cardiff. During its 19th-century industrial heyday, Swansea was a key centre of the copper industry,[2] earning the nickname 'Copperopolis'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 19:59:06
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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well it was in wales when i lived there !
isnt glasgow in england ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/06/14 20:46:15
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Nasty Nob
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CURNOW wrote:well it was in wales when i lived there !
isnt glasgow in england ? 
It appears to be in Scotland.
But did you know that both Paris and London are in Canada?
http://www.parisdowntown.ca/
http://www.london.ca/
Also, the article this thread is about is from April
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