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And working with resin in general.
I love the detail, the texture, how easy it is to work with. I have only had one tiny problem so far with miscast, which were insignificant. So far I have an ork big Mek (abandoned ork project), Typhus, Forgeworld Chaos Marine Death Guard upgrade, and a box of Obliterators. I just prefer the feel of the resin models, over plastic and metal. After all the finecast hate threads I have seen, am I alone here?

*please don't just turn this in to another 'failcast' hate thread, there are plenty of other place to post this*

 Rippy wrote:
*please don't just turn this in to another 'failcast' hate thread, there are plenty of other place to post this*

Sorry, but it won't take too long before it happens anyway.

I'm sorry you have such low standards. Perhaps you should get some real resin models from manufacturers who aren't completely incompetent? If you do you will suddenly realize why everyone hates finecast.

There are plenty of people who haven't had a problem with Finecast. The people who have had problems are just much more vocal.

I haven't had a problem with the Finecast I've gotten or traded through so far. (Which is a pretty significant amount.)

I would assume forgeworld and finecast are two different things. Same materials, but not made in the same place? I may be wrong though, I honestly don't know.

Anyhow, regardless, I both like finecast and hate it. I like it in that stuff generally looks detailed from it, and I like the effect on purity seals which you cannot get from plastic. I hate it because I have air bubbles on every piece and large extra pieces of resin that have to be cut off, often from awkward spots that it are very difficult to cut around without damaging the rest of the model. That being said, I've never had something horrifically misshapen or unfixable. All in all, I honestly prefer plastic, it's just less work to prep and more consistent in turnout. When contemplating the detail differences, I have to say I am fine with sanguinary guard or death company level detail, as both are plastic.

 troa wrote:
I would assume forgeworld and finecast are two different things. Same materials, but not made in the same place? I may be wrong though, I honestly don't know.

FW did do some stuff in "we swear it's not really finecast even though it looks exactly like finecast and has all of the same problems as finecast". And yes, it was really bad, every single kit (including multiple replacements for defective parts) had serious problems with bubbles, broken parts, and hopelessly soft and crumbly resin. Thankfully it was only a minority of their kits (DKoK heavy weapons, some marine upgrades, etc) and I'm not sure they even do it at all anymore.

Needless to say FW's normal resin stuff is much better than finecast of either type.

I don't hate the stuff, but I know that when I get it, there will be some challenges with it.

My Greater Knarloc needed significant touching up before even modeling and priming it. Same thing goes with my independent character marines and Necron ICs.

My worst experience ever was with Orikan the Diviner, the Necron hero. He has so many thin/narrow components to him that trying to clean the model up before working on it is a serious task, I snapped two parts during mold line and flash cleaning and it drove me maaaaaaad.

Greater Knarlocs don't come in finecast, pretty sure...

Finecast is not Forgeworld resin, for anyone wondering. It's a more plastic-y mix.

I have had no problems with Finecast. I was working with a bunch of metal Iron Hands bits last night and it was just two hours of cutting, drilling, filing, pinning, and hurting my fingers over these metal models. I really would've loved if the bits I had were resin, but hey, I got them for the right price so I can't complain.

So long as you don't have any miscasts, Finecast is a good material to work with. I've had good luck with it so far.

Im so far 50% satisfied with my finecast.

the first was a crisis commander upgrade which was incredibly poor

my second is Dark strider and he came out really well with no miss alignment and not even a single bubble which was amazing.

i think there quality has been getting better compared to first release

It does look nice, and it's reassuring to hear people saying that it's not all bad. I think that some of the hate towards it is just the internet blowing things out of proportion.

 Troike wrote:
It does look nice, and it's reassuring to hear people saying that it's not all bad. I think that some of the hate towards it is just the internet blowing things out of proportion.

As I am still fairly new to this hobby, I was terrified of getting finecast, due to all of the "horror" stories online. I have to say I am greatly pleased with GW's Finecast.

As has already been said, when it is cast right, it's a joy to use and I'll take it any day over any metal model. When it's cast wrong however (which is common), it isn't worth even opening the clamshell.

I got a techmarine, the pack with the servitors. It was terribly casted and I had it replaced twice. Then I just gave up.

When you take a model that wasn't really that detailed to begin with and only looked good because it was a low polycount material you made it in, it doesn't make a great highly detailed model just because you recast it in something that shows off every nick.

The picture on the box looks so awesome though.

Thanks, Peregrine! Good to know.


In terms of perception from what people have already said(and a more concise version of my thoughts): I think the general consensus is that when it's done right, finecast is great. But when it's done wrong, it can be anywhere from frustrating to horrifying.

The only gripes I had was that I had to buy different glue, and they seem to break easier. I've also heard the melt pretty fast in heat. Other wise its just the price tag lol

I'm a big fan of Finecast. I like it a lot more than metal. I have maybe 15 or so Finecast models at this point. A few had extra bits hanging off of them that had to be cut, but they came off easy and smooth. The only problem I have is one of my two archon heads has an eye filled half in, though its an easy fix.

I have never had a Finecast product that I felt was the equal of smaller boutique companies such as Hasslefree, McVey, Kromlech etc. This includes casting quality control as well as resin quality.

That said, GW have replaced models repeatedly at my request. I've not had issues with GWs customer service, thats one thing at least that is top notch.

I have a 100% success rate with Finecast. I've found that if you don't buy it, you don't ever have to replace dodgy models made from it.

My hobby budget goes elsewhere. So, really, that's a big thumbs up to GW for encouraging me to check out other companies' stuff!

I'll admit I get excited every time I get a finecast model, usually it's a special figure that I'm excited to add to my army but they still feel special.

That said, they're usually pretty poor quality. It's never a problem as I can just patch and fix whatever flaw it has... usually.

I've bought only two finecast models (winged vampire lord and ogre butcher) the butcher has some small (very small) bubbles in his love handles but the vampire was fine as far as I could tell.

I did like the relative ease of assembly though, no need for pinning or holding parts together for extreme lengths of time.

It's expensive as hell, the quality sucks and GW should be ashamed to sell such a flawed product.

I havent had a problem with it at all. Maybe I lucked out.

People with miscast stories:
Are these from recent times, or when finecast first rolled out, out of curiosity? I may have just had good luck.

Had skull break off a Herald of Khorne while CAREFULLY removing flash/mold lines. Now looking for metal on eBay for older models. $50 for 5 finecast models is ridiculous, drop the price and I'll maybe accept the imperfections.

 Peregrine wrote:
I'm sorry you have such low standards. Perhaps you should get some real resin models from manufacturers who aren't completely incompetent? If you do you will suddenly realize why everyone hates finecast.

Resin miscasts happen from even well respected resin casters. Hell, my Morgana from Mcvey studio has a miscast, and that was one of 750 total casts. Like, enough for one person to personally check, by eye, for miscasts.

gak happens.

I've both had problems and not (and I'm a rather new player). My first finecast were 3 Oblits which admittedly don't have the best models to begin with. 2 of them were fine but one of them had a miscast hold in them..... for no reason. Just greenstuffed it up. On my second purchase of finecast, I got unlucky and ended up with a Herald of Khorne that's head wasn't properly molded to fit in place. I asked the shop owner and heard that was a common problem. My third purchase of finecast was a lord of change. For the most part, I've loved him. My only gripe is his body keeps on leaning to the side and I worry about it breaking (and as another mentioned it seems oddly more breakable).

So... 3 out of 5? It isn't the best thing ever and I prefer FW resin and GW plastic over it but it usually isn't that bad

 Troike wrote:
It does look nice, and it's reassuring to hear people saying that it's not all bad. I think that some of the hate towards it is just the internet blowing things out of proportion.

No, the hate is entirely justified. This isn't like the whole Matt Ward thing where people hate it just to be popular, there is an endless supply of complaints from unhappy customers who have received defective products at a rate that is far worse than non-finecast models.

 -Loki- wrote:
Resin miscasts happen from even well respected resin casters. Hell, my Morgana from Mcvey studio has a miscast, and that was one of 750 total casts. Like, enough for one person to personally check, by eye, for miscasts.

gak happens.

Yes, obviously miscasts happen occasionally. The point is that finecast has a much higher rate of miscasts than other resin models. It's very obviously a bad material (weak and crumbly so that any damage is maximized) made with little or no quality control, and its problems go well beyond the expectation that resin requires a bit of advanced modeling skill.

 Rippy wrote:
People with miscast stories:
Are these from recent times, or when finecast first rolled out, out of curiosity? I may have just had good luck.

Since September, including models bought up through last month. The problem is it's hit or miss, some finecast is almost flawless, most of what I've gotten is flawed. A large bubble taking out a large chunk of pauldron is flawed, sorry, and that's from several recent casts. I've never had an actual problem with the plastic kits, and I have far more sprues of plastic than finecast.

As for the person thinking it's just internet hype...If it's internet hype, so is the red ring of death on the Xbox 360.

Kaldor Draigo and Arjac Rockfist. The latter is new and in 100% better casting than Draigo but it gets down to whether or not you notice and care. Arjac has some bubbles but they are in such unnoticable spots that it simply doesn't matter.


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Also, I've had problems recently with plastic kits too. Minor things, just that my SM Commander and Chaos Terninator Lord were both slightly out of alignment and so left a line of flash all the way around, particularly annoying if you are ttrying to use Lightning Claws as you can't scrape in between.