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If anything, the sisters are taller than the other models I plan on using for my Navy army. The way I see it, they're void born, thus thinner and taller due to gravity or some fancy type of bs.

 Alpharius wrote:
Scale issues could be a major stumbling block here still, couldn't they?

Unless you go 'full on RH' for a 'counts as' army?

Coming from someone who did plan on mixing and matching an IG army, the pics I've seen show them to be a little different in stature from a basic guardsman, but not so much that it would be ludicrous.

 Jimsolo wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Scale issues could be a major stumbling block here still, couldn't they?

Unless you go 'full on RH' for a 'counts as' army?

Coming from someone who did plan on mixing and matching an IG army, the pics I've seen show them to be a little different in stature from a basic guardsman, but not so much that it would be ludicrous.

No definitely. If anything it'll introduce a welcome sense of diversity. Egad, I know. The look simply amazing compared to GW's older sculpts.

I'm sorry but the fact that GW still use heroic proportions is no longer a viable reason to keep using heroic proportions. The industry is moving away from that and in time even gw will have to change with the times.

Hehe, you serious? Just because the others are doing it doesn't mean that GW will join in and rework thousands of models.

 TheDungen wrote:
I'm sorry but the fact that GW still use heroic proportions is no longer a viable reason to keep using heroic proportions. The industry is moving away from that and in time even gw will have to change with the times.

I kind of like heroic scale, honestly. I'm not opposed to it. More realistic scales make the details of the model harder to pick out from a table-length perspective, which is how I'm viewing most models. If we're going to select a sculpting style based on what presentation it looks best in, I think we should focus on the tabletop rather than the showcase, since we're going to be looking at the models on the tabletop with far greater frequency. That's just my thought on it, though.

 Jimsolo wrote:

 TheDungen wrote:
I'm sorry but the fact that GW still use heroic proportions is no longer a viable reason to keep using heroic proportions. The industry is moving away from that and in time even gw will have to change with the times.

I kind of like heroic scale, honestly. I'm not opposed to it. More realistic scales make the details of the model harder to pick out from a table-length perspective, which is how I'm viewing most models. If we're going to select a sculpting style based on what presentation it looks best in, I think we should focus on the tabletop rather than the showcase, since we're going to be looking at the models on the tabletop with far greater frequency. That's just my thought on it, though.

Man, I wish I was seeing my models on the table top more than I saw them on the display shelves :(

I think GW could actually be clever and move to a true scale with their models. How many people would rebuy plastic true scale marines if they were released? My guess is plenty. A shift across the entire line slowly would let them release model kits every few months for whatever armies they felt like and sell new models to long time players.

Maybe not, but considering how well makers of counts as models do, it can't be too unreasonable.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Scale issues could be a major stumbling block here still, couldn't they?

Unless you go 'full on RH' for a 'counts as' army?

Coming from someone who did plan on mixing and matching an IG army, the pics I've seen show them to be a little different in stature from a basic guardsman, but not so much that it would be ludicrous.

No definitely. If anything it'll introduce a welcome sense of diversity. Egad, I know. The look simply amazing compared to GW's older sculpts.

Honestly, at this point I'm mainly going to just be painting these things, but I do hold out some hope for using the heroes (maybe the IE) in the future DFG game. Have you done any scale shots with the plastic Eisenkern and RH figures?

Although, I suppose if you have any RH figures, they... won't be in identical scale because of material changes? I dunno anymore...

I could do an RH Kurganova and a female Eisenkern (Ada) side by side pic, but that would be exposing the horrible paint job on Kurganova that I need to strip (zing!).

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The height seems fine, and when you include all the armour on the Eisenkern their "chunkier" appearance seems fine to me.

 Wehrkind wrote:
How many people would rebuy plastic true scale marines if they were released?

There aren't many things that would make me consider dropping my SM army, but this is one of them. I'm not sure if it's that I just don't like truescale marines in general, or if I just don't like most of the truescale conversions I see, but I'm just not a fan of the concept, at least insofar as I've seen it done.

What if the marines' toes were pointed inward?

Oh no, a rise in Pretty Marines will be inevitable.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
That was the plan, but they wanted to re do some of those.

Is there anywhere I can see the Iron Empire alternative Heads? I've seen a few like the leaders and characters but not basic troopers?

st' Patrick's day



but more importantly a metal cast (or master)

 Jimsolo wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
How many people would rebuy plastic true scale marines if they were released?

There aren't many things that would make me consider dropping my SM army, but this is one of them. I'm not sure if it's that I just don't like truescale marines in general, or if I just don't like most of the truescale conversions I see, but I'm just not a fan of the concept, at least insofar as I've seen it done.

Perhaps I should have said 'Proper, non-heroic scale' ? Whatever it takes to not have their hands the size of volley balls while standing as tall as guardsmen. Regular marines look pretty decent next to normal 28mm scale models, but if GW wants to stick to the 32mm thing, they need to be a bit bigger in some dimensions and not others.

Still though, I think that properly scaled figures would be a good move for GW that would require only their core competency: model production. Lots of folks complain about gorilla hands etc. Fixing that is pretty easy, probably easier than writing new rules, assuming they are still not thinking of themselves as a rules company.

 Wehrkind wrote:

 Jimsolo wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
How many people would rebuy plastic true scale marines if they were released?

There aren't many things that would make me consider dropping my SM army, but this is one of them. I'm not sure if it's that I just don't like truescale marines in general, or if I just don't like most of the truescale conversions I see, but I'm just not a fan of the concept, at least insofar as I've seen it done.

Perhaps I should have said 'Proper, non-heroic scale' ? Whatever it takes to not have their hands the size of volley balls while standing as tall as guardsmen. Regular marines look pretty decent next to normal 28mm scale models, but if GW wants to stick to the 32mm thing, they need to be a bit bigger in some dimensions and not others.

Still though, I think that properly scaled figures would be a good move for GW that would require only their core competency: model production. Lots of folks complain about gorilla hands etc. Fixing that is pretty easy, probably easier than writing new rules, assuming they are still not thinking of themselves as a rules company.

Hear, hear!

migooo wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
That was the plan, but they wanted to re do some of those.

Is there anywhere I can see the Iron Empire alternative Heads? I've seen a few like the leaders and characters but not basic troopers?

Dig through some of the updates, I know we saw a few of them.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

migooo wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
That was the plan, but they wanted to re do some of those.

Is there anywhere I can see the Iron Empire alternative Heads? I've seen a few like the leaders and characters but not basic troopers?

Dig through some of the updates, I know we saw a few of them.

Or directly at the source:

http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Raging-Heroes/library/TGG?sort=3&page=1

~iPaint

 -iPaint- wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:

migooo wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
That was the plan, but they wanted to re do some of those.

Is there anywhere I can see the Iron Empire alternative Heads? I've seen a few like the leaders and characters but not basic troopers?

Dig through some of the updates, I know we saw a few of them.

Or directly at the source:

http://s918.photobucket.com/user/Raging-Heroes/library/TGG?sort=3&page=1

~iPaint

Thanks I found some on the updates also.

 BrookM wrote:
Victoria doesn't need a KS to get her products up for sale. Well, that might change later this year, but so far she's released several kick-ass modular ersatz Guard regiments and will in a few months be releasing the very first female Guard regiment:

Ohh very nice. Lets just hope that the nazi lawyer's at GW doesn't shut it down.

Ah come on... please wake up, GW has absolutely ZEROOOOOOOOO hold on anything even remotely similar to Victorias minis.

They cannot do jacksh. about this.

So please stop spreading this false uncertainty.

Yeah because having 0 claim has TOTALLY stopped GW's legal department before.

Well GW has no basis at all!

The women aren't nearly completely naked, nor are they dressed in fetish clothes. Therefore these are recognizably not a GW copy.

On the other hand certain adult toys companies should be weary...GW might decide to sue them one day

 miniholic wrote:
Well GW has no basis at all!

The women aren't nearly completely naked, nor are they dressed in fetish clothes. Therefore these are recognizably not a GW copy.

On the other hand certain adult toys companies should be weary...GW might decide to sue them one day

Like that Space Marine book they tried to squish.

And that might have been a bigger 'fail' for them then the CHS lawsuit was!

 fox-light713 wrote:
Ohh very nice. Lets just hope that the nazi lawyer's at GW doesn't shut it down.

Stupid, that's just stupid.

 BrookM wrote:

 fox-light713 wrote:
Ohh very nice. Lets just hope that the nazi lawyer's at GW doesn't shut it down.

Stupid, that's just stupid.

Agreed. What did that contribute to the conversation about the TGG Kickstarter or RH? There's a separate thread for Victoria's (quite stellar) work that this could have been posted to.

Now quick, before we get off topic, someone post a delicious gif.

~iPaint

*something something something....80%*

I keep hoping that we're at the 80% threshold for the first wave, wouldn't that be..




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Actually, come to think, it would be better to just outright state that so far, 80% of this all still needs to be done.

 -iPaint- wrote:

 BrookM wrote:

 fox-light713 wrote:
Ohh very nice. Lets just hope that the nazi lawyer's at GW doesn't shut it down.

Stupid, that's just stupid.

Agreed. What did that contribute to the conversation about the TGG Kickstarter or RH? There's a separate thread for Victoria's (quite stellar) work that this could have been posted to.

Now quick, before we get off topic, someone post a delicious gif.

~iPaint

*something something something....80%*

80% of this thread concerns RH and TGG

It is the thread that RH deserves!