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The Great State of Texas

Another instance of people who should be fired, yet nothing will ever happen. Pick up that can citizen.
http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/bottled-water-purchase-leads-to-night-in-jail-for-u/article_45498018-e019-11e2-b98a-001a4bcf6878.html


Bottled-water purchase leads to night in jail for U.Va. student BY K. BURNELL EVANS
Charlottesville Daily Progress Richmond Times-Dispatch

When a half-dozen men and a woman in street clothes closed in on University of Virginia student Elizabeth Daly, 20, she and two roommates panicked.

That led to Daly spending a night and an afternoon in the Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail. Her initial offense? Walking to her car with bottled water, cookie dough and ice cream just purchased from the Harris Teeter in the Barracks Road Shopping Center for a sorority benefit fundraiser.

A group of state Alcoholic Beverage Control agents clad in plainclothes approached her, suspecting the blue carton of LaCroix sparkling water to be a 12-pack of beer. Police say one of the agents jumped on the hood of her car. She says one drew a gun. Unsure of who they were, Daly tried to flee the darkened parking lot.

"They were showing unidentifiable badges after they approached us, but we became frightened, as they were not in anything close to a uniform," she recalled Thursday in a written account of the April 11 incident.

"I couldn't put my windows down unless I started my car, and when I started my car they began yelling to not move the car, not to start the car. They began trying to break the windows. My roommates and I were ... terrified," Daly stated.

Charlottesville Commonwealth's Attorney Dave Chapman read Daly's account and said it was factually consistent.

Prosecutors say she apologized profusely when she realized who the agents were. But that wasn't good enough for ABC agents, who charged her with three felonies. Prosecutors withdrew those charges Thursday in Charlottesville General District Court, but Daly still can't understand why she sat in jail.

"This has been an extremely trying experience," she wrote. "It is something to this day I cannot understand or believe has come to this point."

A gents at ABC's regional office in Staunton deferred to the agency's public affairs office in Richmond. Spokeswoman Carol Mawyer would not provide details of the arrest or ABC's investigative procedures, except to say that all agents wear plainclothes and carry metal badges.

Agents charged Daly with two counts of assaulting a law enforcement officer and one count of eluding police, all Class 6 felonies carrying a maximum penalty of five years in prison and $2,500 in fines per offense.

Chapman said he'd never encountered a situation like this in his 34 years of experience.

"It wouldn't be the right thing to do to prosecute this," he said, noting that no one was hurt during the exchange, which took place around 10:15 p.m.

Daly incurred the assault charges when she "grazed" two agents with her SUV, according to court records. She drove the SUV past the agents after her front-seat passenger, in a panic, yelled at Daly to "go, go, go" and climbed into the rear of the vehicle to gain space from the men on her side of the car, the records state.

The woman was on edge after spending the night listening to stories from dozens of sexual assault survivors at an annual "Take Back the Night" vigil on Grounds, said Daly's defense attorney, Francis Lawrence.

The women dialed 911 as they pulled out of the parking lot to report what was happening and ask whether the agents were police officers. Daly said she was planning to drive to a police station. She stopped the SUV nearby for an agent driving a vehicle with lights and sirens, Chapman said.

Chapman stood by the agents' decision to file charges, citing faith in a process that yielded an appropriate resolution.

"You don't know all the facts until you complete the investigation," he said.


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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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And they're charging her with assault?

Desk jobs for everyone!

   
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Alas, there are morons in every profession.

I am sure those coeds just intimidated the crap out of those liquor cops (not).

   
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I hate ABC, but I also hate UVA.

I'm like that horse having to choose between two bales of hay, except it's two bales of toe fungus.
   
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The fact that the agents allowed that situation to escalate to the level that it did shows a complete lack of professionalism. It's quite telling that both the lad and her passenger had the same reaction to what was happening.

 
   
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Lakewood, Ohio

Actually... has anyone ever had La Croix? That gak should be regulated, and anyone drinking it arrested and sent to re-education centers!

Pick up that can Citizen!


But seriously, I don't think I've read an account that sounded like a bad episode of the Dukes of Hazzard than this... The part where the agents said her story was pretty much spot on sealed the deal for me...

Unprofessional, the lot of them >_<

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Keep in mind that Virginia ABC cops basically have jurisdiction over underage drinking and bootlegging. And it's not even exclusive. They have literally nothing to do.

These are the guys that spend 50,000 equipping five guys with custom 1911s for the hell of it.
   
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The Great State of Texas

Blame the victim!

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Frazzled wrote:
Blame the victim!


You're supposed to let me post first.

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The Great State of Texas

Blame Necroshea!

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Through the looking glass

Sorry guys. I was almost positive she was packing PBR's. That stuff is horrid. I had to make the call to take her down before she became drunk and angry white trash.

My bad.

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 Necroshea wrote:
Sorry guys. I was almost positive she was packing PBR's. That stuff is horrid. I had to make the call to take her down before she became drunk and angry white trash.

My bad.

Now you've crossed a line.
   
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Through the looking glass

 Seaward wrote:
 Necroshea wrote:
Sorry guys. I was almost positive she was packing PBR's. That stuff is horrid. I had to make the call to take her down before she became drunk and angry white trash.

My bad.

Now you've crossed a line.


Prepare to be learneded

http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/White_Trash_In_Trouble

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Probably work

And people wonder why I'm more scared of my government than I am of "terrorists".

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 daedalus wrote:
And people wonder why I'm more scared of my government than I am of "terrorists".

Generally the incompetent terrorists get caught/killed. That's not the case with public sector incompetence

 
   
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A group of state Alcoholic Beverage Control agents....

You what? What sort of non job is that?

I don't undertand why they tried to arrest her anyway. Even if her bottle of water had been beer is possession of a can of beer a crime in Virginia?

Is it becuase she was 20?

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 LuciusAR wrote:
A group of state Alcoholic Beverage Control agents....

You what? What sort of non job is that?

I don't undertand why they tried to arrest her anyway. Even if her bottle of water had been beer is possession of a can of beer a crime in Virginia?

Is it becuase she was 20?

Drinking age is 21 in the States.

Virginia's fething weird with liquor. You can sell beer and wine pretty much anywhere, but all liquor has to go through ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Control) stores. They're government-run, basically. No liquor stores in the Old Dominion.

But yes, it's very much a non-job.


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I don't care what South Park has to say. PBR's the nectar of the gods. The only thing that beats it is a Corona with a lime in it.

FETH YOU I'M A SAILOR I CAN DRINK BEER WITH LIME IT PREVENTS SCURVY

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The Great State of Texas

 LuciusAR wrote:
A group of state Alcoholic Beverage Control agents....

You what? What sort of non job is that?

I don't undertand why they tried to arrest her anyway. Even if her bottle of water had been beer is possession of a can of beer a crime in Virginia?

Is it becuase she was 20?


If she's underage yea, thats like a municipal violation or misdemeanor or something, totally warranting seven armed officers. I've never ever seen anyone arrested for it, but you need seven officers just in case. I mean when I was in East LA and the cops came in swarms because occasionally they'd get in gun battles with gangs, we had like four cops show up once to bust up a party. Evidently Virginia minor alcohol enforcement is way more dangerous then a city with over 60,000 reputed gang members.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 Seaward wrote:
Virginia's fething weird with liquor. You can sell beer and wine pretty much anywhere, but all liquor has to go through ABC (Alcoholic Beverage Control) stores. They're government-run, basically. No liquor stores in the Old Dominion.


WTF?

Isn't injustice like this the reason you guys need guns?

   
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Lubeck

Seriously. The US of A are all like "FREEDOM!!!" but are hardcore on only drinking after you turn 21. Doesn't sound so free to me.
   
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 SilverMK2 wrote:
WTF?

Isn't injustice like this the reason you guys need guns?

It's basically a holdover from Prohibition. I think there are 18 ABC states, and it's a tough system to get rid of because it generates so damn much money for the state.
   
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The Great State of Texas

Which is why they have it. Its all about the benjamins

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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ABC/ALE (Alcohol Law Enforcement) are the worst breed of cop out there. Seriously. I was at a party that the ALE busted, and instead of just telling everyone to go home like regular cops do, they barricaded all the exits and breathalyzed all 300 people there. It took them 5 hours. They also locked the door to the only bathroom so that no one could flush "contraband" down the toilet. People started pissing in bottles, and were subsequently arrested for indecency. They are only barely a step above psycho wanna-be cops.
   
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It's because they have nothing else to do.

   
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Why in the nine circles of hell would you pull a sidearm on a car full of coeds? Was their raw and youthful sexuality inspiring lust in the agent's minds and they needed their weapons to cut through their deceitful feminine trickery and find their stashed alcohol?

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This would explain why so many members of the US armed forces are such lightweights when they come to Europe on deployments...

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 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Why in the nine circles of hell would you pull a sidearm on a car full of coeds? Was their raw and youthful sexuality inspiring lust in the agent's minds and they needed their weapons to cut through their deceitful feminine trickery and find their stashed alcohol?


 Seaward wrote:
It's because they have nothing else to do.



Seriously, that's what it is. If you want to see the epitome of tacticool poser nonsense, ABC cops are where you go. They trick themselves out like marshals serving a high-risk warrant on Pablo Escobar's house in order to go check IDs.
   
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The Great State of Texas

Wait how can they make you take a breathalyzer test? If you're not driving a car, you've not given consent and therefore that is illegal.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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We're not allowed to drink on deployment. Go on a six month dry spell and tilt back a six pack as fast as you can when you go on R&R.....nice buzz....well basically the first one to two beers.....and how many beers now for you to get a buzz?...wait...we talking euro's or dollars here?



When did the drinking age go "20"?

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 Jihadin wrote:
We're not allowed to drink on deployment. Go on a six month dry spell and tilt back a six pack as fast as you can when you go on R&R.....nice buzz....well basically the first one to two beers.....and how many beers now for you to get a buzz?...wait...we talking euro's or dollars here?



When did the drinking age go "20"?


It's not (that I know of), it was a typo by Seaward.

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