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Nigel Stillman





Austin, TX

Funny how you talk about how pyromancy would be unfluffy when the entire idea isn't even close to how it works in the background. Khorne hates psykers and anything to do with psychic powers.
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Austin, TX

 motyak wrote:
 Vladsimpaler wrote:
Funny how you talk about how pyromancy would be unfluffy when the entire idea isn't even close to how it works in the background. Khorne hates psykers and anything to do with psychic powers.


I'm not sure he does. Fantasy Khorne hates magic, but I don't think it's quite the same between systems


In Black Crusade it states that any psyker pledging itself to Khorne is utterly destroyed. Plus Khorne never has psykers or anyone using psychic powers in any fluff I've ever read.
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Austin, TX

 Ailaros wrote:
So, I spent a great deal of time last night reading various "should khorne have psykers at all?" threads in many places on the internet, and it seems that the same few things come up every time, and that the answer in the end always ends up as "yes".

So confirmation bias then. Because it comes down to players (like you) wishing that Khorne had psychic powers and trying to fluff it so that they could use sorcerers. If you want sorcerers that bad, there's 3 other gods (and undivided) that you can turn to rather than try and hamfist it in.

Black Crusade wrote:
"Many of these Heretics have made the deliberate decision
to dedicate their lives to Slaneesh, Nurgle, or Tzeentch, though
some choose to avoid dedicating themselves to a particular
power. Khorne, however, specifically obliterates any psyker
who would beseech him for power."



Khorne-based warriors use magic weapons, they use sorcerers/navigators to move their ships through the warp, and several canon fluff books refer to psykers who worship khorne (whether "blood magic" or explicit, warp-fuelled psychic powers, or khorne himself doing supernatural things like causing it to rain blood). Just because the World Eaters in specific killed off their librarians when they turned heresy doesn't mean that you can't be a psyker who worships khorne.

Chaos ships don't need navigators, see Eye of Terror.
Also just because they use enchanted/ensorcelled weapons doesn't mean they're sorcerers.
Khorne is a Chaos god, he can do whatever he wants. It doesn't make him use psychic powers. He uses the warp.


The reason that there isn't a LOT of it, though, is because it's hard to follow the spirit of khorne with psychic powers. Khorne isn't about divination, obviously. That said, if Khorne excepts sacrifices butchered by autocannons and bolt weapons, then he accepts those butchered by psychic shriek.

That's a false comparison. Khorne is fine with range combat (re: Teeth of Khorne, giving weaponry to Chaos warriors and all that jazz) but not with psychic powers.


The question isn't "can khorne have psykers?", but "which psykers bother khorne the least?"

The only psykers that don't bother Khorne are ones that are already dead.


Also Kyras is really not a good example since he probably hasn't been smited by Khorne yet.

Plus in Blood Pact, they use blood magic. It doesn't really just talk about Khorne. I'm sure that Gore Mages subsist without Khorne. Khorne has never explicitly marked psykers nor will he ever.

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Nigel Stillman





Austin, TX

 DeffDred wrote:
 Vladsimpaler wrote:
Chaos ships don't need navigators, see Eye of Terror.


Eye of Terror has Daemon navigators. A daemonette to be precise. They say that Daemon navigators simply move through the warp without much concentration.


There's more precedence for Khorne working together with Tzeentch (grudgingly) both in background and in game than there are Khornate Psykers
Also there have been several times where Marines fight in space without helmets.

 Ailaros wrote:

Actually, it's called research.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?356196-Would-you-use-a-sorcerer-in-a-Khorne-themed-army

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/441911.page

http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/why-no-psykers-of-khorne.257975/

... actually, I'm going to stop there. If you google "khorne sorcerer", you'll get a LOT of topics. Everything you've said has already been addressed elsewhere. Wheres that aren't in a thread of which power to use, rather than of if powers should be used at all.


That's funny because reading through these same threads, what I understand is "Khorne hates psykers" and the conclusion I draw is that Khorne would never employ sorcerers except in instances of fluff hiccups.

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