Author |
Message |
 |
|
 |
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 01:44:20
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
|
Any Codex: Space Marine army that's warlord is equipped in Terminator Armour may take Support Terminator squads as Heavy Support choices.
160 points - 3 Support Terminators (WS 4 BS 4 S 4 T 4 I 4 A 2 W 1 Ld 10 Sv 2+/5++)
Wargear - Each Support Terminator is equipped with terminator armour and an assault cannon.
One Support Terminator may replace his assault cannon for:
Plasma Cannon - free
Lascannon - free
Turbo Cannon +15pts (see below)
Additionally, you may combine all three assault terminators into a single Punisher Cannon Terminator Support Unit. A Punisher Cannon Terminator Support Unit has an identical profile to the one above, except it has 3 wounds instead of one and is equipped with Terminator Armour and a Punisher Cannon. Additionally, the Punisher Cannon Terminator Support Unit has the Instant Death Universal Special Rule.
Turbo Cannon - Heavy 2, S8, AP3, Small Blast, Targetter (+1 BS)
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/07/30 12:43:52
Naaa na na na-na-na-naaa.
Na-na-na-naaaaa.
Hey Jude. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 02:26:06
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
|
Is the Punisher Unit even worth the cost? As I see it its just reducing 3 lascannon hit into one lascannon hit causing instant death on a 160 point unit. It could be taken out with very little effort. Turbo Cannon might be a bit much. The extra +1 BS is just icing on an already good cake. I think 15 points might almost be the cost of the +1 BS alone. Just my two cents.
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/07/29 02:27:26
Sorry for my spelling. I'm not a native speaker and a dyslexic.
1750 pts Blood Specters
2000 pts Imperial Fists
6000 pts Disciples of Fate
3500 pts Peridia Prime
2500 pts Prophets of Fate
Lizardmen 3000 points Tlaxcoatl Temple-City
Tomb Kings 1500 points Sekhra (RIP) |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 02:41:29
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
|
The Punisher unit has eternal warrior, it more or less has to in order to be viable.
I think the Turbo Cannon is balanced somewhat because only one of the models can take it, though I could maybe drop the strength by a point.
|
Naaa na na na-na-na-naaa.
Na-na-na-naaaaa.
Hey Jude. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 02:56:52
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
|
BryllCream wrote:The Punisher unit has eternal warrior, it more or less has to in order to be viable. I think the Turbo Cannon is balanced somewhat because only one of the models can take it, though I could maybe drop the strength by a point.
Ok, didnt see EW, it makes him more viable. I thinks it would be a fun unit against horde armies. You could adjust it to heavy 1, like the plasma cannon. Then you would be paying slightly more for the +1 S and +1 BS, which should be allright in a slightly expensive unit when you can already pick the plasma cannon for free.But I think you could leave it at the original stats considering DA termies with plasma cannons, at the costs your termies are already priced, but you should get a second opinion on that.
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/07/29 02:58:36
Sorry for my spelling. I'm not a native speaker and a dyslexic.
1750 pts Blood Specters
2000 pts Imperial Fists
6000 pts Disciples of Fate
3500 pts Peridia Prime
2500 pts Prophets of Fate
Lizardmen 3000 points Tlaxcoatl Temple-City
Tomb Kings 1500 points Sekhra (RIP) |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 13:51:59
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
'instant death' isn't a rule to be thrown about lightly, it'll ruin tyranid monsters far too easily. S10 on a 6 to wound could work, causing instant-death on T5 or under, but not decimating anything you choose to shoot at, every turn, without fail.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 13:53:32
Subject: Re:Support Terminators
|
 |
Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
|
Nothing I can see in my op has instant death?
|
Naaa na na na-na-na-naaa.
Na-na-na-naaaaa.
Hey Jude. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 15:14:43
Subject: Re:Support Terminators
|
 |
Sneaky Sniper Drone
Firebase Zulu
|
"Additionally, the Punisher Cannon Terminator Support Unit has the Instant Death Universal Special Rule."
Did your edit not go through changing that to Eternal Warrior?
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 18:03:19
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Longtime Dakkanaut
|
I don't get the punisher unit, can you stat them out separately so its more clear what that gets you?
On the turbo cannon, why not just make it a cyclone launcher, why invent something new?
|
The rules:
1) Style over Substance.
2) Attitude is Everything.
3) Always take it to the Edge.
4) Break the Rules. |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 18:24:20
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
|
BryllCream wrote:Any Codex: Space Marine army that's warlord is equipped in Terminator Armour may take Support Terminator squads as Heavy Support choices.
160 points - 3 Support Terminators ( WS 4 BS 4 S 4 T 4 I 4 A 2 W 1 Ld 10 Sv 2+/5++)
Wargear - Each Support Terminator is equipped with terminator armour and an assault cannon.
so for 53 points you a terminator with an assault cannon, usually 70 points...
Do these guys have 2 wounds as you mentioned in the punisher cannon support unit?
Oblitorators are 70 points and they can't make an assault cannon every turn.
The punisher cannon is way OP
|
Dark Mechanicus and Renegade Iron Hand Dakka Blog
My Dark Mechanicus P&M Blog. Mostly Modeling as I paint very slowly. Lots of kitbashed conversions of marines and a few guard to make up a renegade Iron Hand chapter and Dark Mechanicus Allies. Bionics++ |
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/29 18:27:09
Subject: Support Terminators
|
 |
Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
|
A Punisher Cannon Terminator Support Unit has an identical profile to the one above, except it has 3 wounds instead of two...
Huh? Your profile shows 1 wound, not 2.
Also, do they have power fists?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/30 12:44:38
Subject: Re:Support Terminators
|
 |
Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
|
The lack of enthusiasm for terminators with publisher cannons is upsetting
|
Naaa na na na-na-na-naaa.
Na-na-na-naaaaa.
Hey Jude. |
|
 |
 |
|