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 Breotan wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I think maybe it's just the shield but that lancer knight looks ugly as sin.

On the bright side, maybe it will sell well enough to justify them making the Porphyrion in plastic.

Obviously, we all have different tastes in models, but is the Porphyrion that much better of a model? It's so chunky and impractical looking. That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if that was something planned for down the road.

 Breotan wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Backward bending knees? Have you people ever seen a dog? Cat? Horse?

Have you? All mammal knees bend the normal way. The backwards part is the ankle. Also, the ankle and knee aren't right next to each like they are in the Cerastus.

...so, your objection is that the tibia-fibula-equivalent is too short, essentially? Because that seems to fall somewhat short of 'backwards bending knee', tbh.

 Bolognesus wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Backward bending knees? Have you people ever seen a dog? Cat? Horse?

Have you? All mammal knees bend the normal way. The backwards part is the ankle. Also, the ankle and knee aren't right next to each like they are in the Cerastus.

...so, your objection is that the tibia-fibula-equivalent is too short, essentially? Because that seems to fall somewhat short of 'backwards bending knee', tbh.

My objection is to the way the legs look, not any anatomical inaccuracy. I also don't care if you disagree with the phrase "backward bending knees". I used it deliberately for the connotation and will continue to do so.

You are of course free to not like it, but it's obviously a joint layout analogous to digitigrade animal legs, which is a sensible reference for a knight known for speed.

Plastic Knight Atrapos, when?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Plastic Knight Atrapos, when?

At the least, I can see it going to a conversion kit for the plastic cerastus body, as opposed to full resin.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
You are of course free to not like it, but it's obviously a joint layout analogous to digitigrade animal legs, which is a sensible reference for a knight known for speed.

which means it isn't a backwards bending knee, but rather an elevated ankle.

in fact given the simplified nature of the "foot", it's actually closer to an unguligrade leg form. close to some of the Perissodactyl leg bauplans.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 stahly wrote:
Here is my unboxing & review of the Cerastus Knight: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/08/review-plastic-cerastus-knight-lancer/

Compared to the Knight Dominus/Valiant, you get one more large sprue and one medium-size sprue (Dominus/Valiant has three large sprues, Cerastus has four and a medium-size one). Also, you get not one but two pretty nice transfer sheets. Still not cheap of course.

Great review! One small question: You mention the arms are swappable. Does that mean the shield hand can be built as either a left or right hand?

Yes, the hands can be turned by 180 degrees as the "thumb" sits in the middle of the hand.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I think maybe it's just the shield but that lancer knight looks ugly as sin.

On the bright side, maybe it will sell well enough to justify them making the Porphyrion in plastic.

Obviously, we all have different tastes in models, but is the Porphyrion that much better of a model? It's so chunky and impractical looking. That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if that was something planned for down the road.

The Porphyrion appeals to people who don't see chunky and impractical but massive and indestructible when they look at the model. That's my take anyway. Do you prefer the look of skinny Mk.VI Marines or would you rather have those big slabs of armor we call Terminators? Same thing when it comes down to it.

Disregarding height and just looking at proportions, the normal Knight is fairly balanced. The Lancer looks lanky. The Porphyrion looks chunky. There's one for every taste.

Also it’s not that large a step from Porphyrion to Warhound, which is something that people have been wanting since armourcast discontinued the original plastic warhound.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Also it’s not that large a step from Porphyrion to Warhound, which is something that people have been wanting since armourcast discontinued the original plastic warhound.

The Armorcast Warhound was a resin model, not plastic.

And TBH I don't understand this fascination with plastic kits. Resin has better detail and is far easier to build, if anything GW needs to be going the other direction and moving plastic kits to resin.

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:

And TBH I don't understand this fascination with plastic kits. Resin has better detail and is far easier to build, if anything GW needs to be going the other direction and moving plastic kits to resin.

Plastic kits are cheaper, lighter, more robust, and more accessible.
It’s a hard combo to beat, especially when “more detailed” is so subjective in value and “easier to build” is both debatable and extremely variable between resin kits.

I for one look forward to not giving the model a bath.

 Gert wrote:
I for one look forward to not giving the model a bath.

but but but but, bathtime with resin bathknight is amazing?

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Gert wrote:
I for one look forward to not giving the model a bath.

but but but but, bathtime with resin bathknight is amazing?

I have concerns.

Not Online!!! wrote:

 Gert wrote:
I for one look forward to not giving the model a bath.

but but but but, bathtime with resin bathknight is amazing?

All fun and games until some pistons end up where they shouldn't.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:

And TBH I don't understand this fascination with plastic kits. Resin has better detail and is far easier to build, if anything GW needs to be going the other direction and moving plastic kits to resin.

Plastic kits are cheaper, lighter, more robust, and more accessible.
It’s a hard combo to beat, especially when “more detailed” is so subjective in value and “easier to build” is both debatable and extremely variable between resin kits.

I’d also argue about resin being easier to build.

Give me my plastic and poly cement and let me be. I don’t want to be mucking about with bathing, pinning and superglue, or finding out Far Too Late that one part is on wonky and now wonky it shall forever be.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:

And TBH I don't understand this fascination with plastic kits. Resin has better detail and is far easier to build, if anything GW needs to be going the other direction and moving plastic kits to resin.

Plastic kits are cheaper, lighter, more robust, and more accessible.
It’s a hard combo to beat, especially when “more detailed” is so subjective in value and “easier to build” is both debatable and extremely variable between resin kits.

I’d also argue about resin being easier to build.

Give me my plastic and poly cement and let me be. I don’t want to be mucking about with bathing, pinning and superglue, or finding out Far Too Late that one part is on wonky and now wonky it shall forever be.

The only point towards resin building being easier I can see is because you can break apart super glue again. So if you glued on something wrong it can still be saved which is not the case with plastic cement. But then again you can also just use super glue with plastic kits.
Other than that I see so reason why resin would be easier than plastic. Faster maybe since it will have way less parts but not easier

Spotted in the Legions Imperialis article - Solar Auxilia Baneblade upgrade?

It will probably be resin upgrade parts to the existing kit. I want to know if they only intend to upgrade the Baneblade guns for Solar Auxilia or if all the variants in the kit will have weapon upgrades as well.

Baneblade kit is a bit long in the tooth, they could potentially rejig it to add SA components.

From that pic I'm guessing more than half the sprues would need replacing... practically everything but the main track housing and underside.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
From that pic I'm guessing more than half the sprues would need replacing... practically everything but the main track housing and underside.

So hopefully it would be a complete re-do of the kit. With tracks that assemble as easily as the Rogal Dorn’s.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Baneblade kit is a bit long in the tooth, they could potentially rejig it to add SA components.

Baneblade is still a solid kit, especially with the shadowsword upgrades. Stomps is only a year younger, but never got extra sprues like the baneblade did and could really use them. If they did redo the Baneblade, I would expect the massive belly plate to go away, and people would have issues like the Dorn.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
From that pic I'm guessing more than half the sprues would need replacing... practically everything but the main track housing and underside.

No different than the Felblade or Stormhammer which are both hybrid kits.

Don’t forget there were originally two kits sharing the same lower hull with different upper designs (turret and assault gun), so they could use the existing hull sprue with a different turret and upper hull sprue.

I bet that is the epic baneblade model.

Andykp wrote:
I bet that is the epic baneblade model.

Doubt it, the barrels being fully drilled out on all weapons is the first major difference over these:



The lights are also different

Whatever the edited image is, its not the 8mm version. If you look at the sensors on the turret the edited version has grooves around them while the epic model has a flat panel there. Also all the other signs like the perfectly drilled barrel, the fact the co-axial gun has a hole at all, the light thingies? on the hatch that have indents,...

 Matrindur wrote:
Other than that I see so reason why resin would be easier than plastic. Faster maybe since it will have way less parts but not easier

Fewer parts also makes it easier. Take a gun barrel, for example. A plastic kit can't do undercuts and either has to have a solid front to the barrel (looks like and only works on small guns) or split the barrel into halves. Those halves need to be glued together very carefully if you want to avoid alignment issues and you're almost always going to have to do sanding and/or gap filling on the joint to hide it. A resin gun barrel, on the other hand, can be cast as a single piece and requires none of that. Cut the part off the "sprue", attach it to the model, no other work required.

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
Other than that I see so reason why resin would be easier than plastic. Faster maybe since it will have way less parts but not easier

Fewer parts also makes it easier. Take a gun barrel, for example. A plastic kit can't do undercuts and either has to have a solid front to the barrel (looks like and only works on small guns) or split the barrel into halves. Those halves need to be glued together very carefully if you want to avoid alignment issues and you're almost always going to have to do sanding and/or gap filling on the joint to hide it. A resin gun barrel, on the other hand, can be cast as a single piece and requires none of that. Cut the part off the "sprue", attach it to the model, no other work required.

Unless it’s wonky, or there’s mold slip, or air bubbles.

Actual building experience aside, the fact that resin stuff is like twice the price of plastic equivalents in a lot of places would go a long way to making up for increased difficulty in building (which I don’t find anyway, plastic is much better to build in my experience).