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One more question, Melcavuk.

Are bomb squigs a seperate unit now or are they still just additional models purchased by tankbustaz? What are their rules?

Thank you again!

KFF doesn't work in CC? What the feth?

No invul saves in close combat.

 MaRV wrote:
Thanks Again..

1.A maxed out burna bommer now cost 190pts, will it get cheaper?
2.A maxed out blitza-Bommer cost 140pts, will it get cheaper?
3.Are killsaws available to a warboss (with or without mega armour)?
4.Other then the mega armoured nobs/meks are there other new models in the dex?
5:The 6 new ork objectives should be in the codex, what do we need to do to win?

Im loving this QnA

1) If we include red paint job 10 points less
2) If we are including red paint job, same cost
3) Nope
4) Not that I can see
5) They are: Shoot an enemy unit off the board, Kill the enemy warlord in a challenge with your warboss, destroy an enemy unit in your assault phase (more units gone, more points), Turbo boost 3 vehicles (or bike units), secure a random objective (roll a D6), Charge more than 10 inches.

From what om gathering it doesnt excite me that much. Our assualt range got better but we lost ramshackle and bw are more expensive.

My initial reaction is, well thats not what i was expecting. Anyone else feel like they were going to make Orks stronge almost across the board? Im still figuring it out but im not that happy and weve only been waiting for a new codex for how long...

Mumblez wrote:
One more question, Melcavuk.

Are bomb squigs a seperate unit now or are they still just additional models purchased by tankbustaz? What are their rules?

Thank you again!

Wargear, can buy upto 3, works same as before (str 8 AP 4)

Sorry if I missed it but any info on Grotsnik? Does he allow the purchase of army-wide Cybork armor?

been following all day since i put in my preorder. am i getting this right
so big meks and wierdboys dont take force org slot?
painboss is now hq instead of nob-charector upgrade?
by any chance did they give us an av bump on our flyers?
thanks

 Dinamarth wrote:
Sorry if I missed it but any info on Grotsnik? Does he allow the purchase of army-wide Cybork armor?

Nope, he's just... a slightly mental painboy really. Gives fearless and rampage. No other perks really.


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forgotten ghosts wrote:
been following all day since i put in my preorder. am i getting this right
so big meks and wierdboys dont take force org slot?
painboss is now hq instead of nob-charector upgrade?
by any chance did they give us an av bump on our flyers?
thanks

Big meks and Weird boys do take HQ slots. Mek (smaller ones) dont.
Painboy is a HQ
No.

The 3 hqs and 9 troops is comfirmed?

That's really disappointing :(

TableTopJosh wrote:
The 3 hqs and 9 troops is comfirmed?

If you are running the Ork specific detachment, yes.

 TedNugent wrote:
KFF doesn't work in CC? What the feth?

No invul saves in close combat.

Has the KFF ever worked in combat in recent years?...

rtb02 wrote:

 TedNugent wrote:
KFF doesn't work in CC? What the feth?

No invul saves in close combat.

Has the KFF ever worked in combat in recent years?...

Cybork bodies did. The entire army has no invulnerable saves in close combat, that's new.

Come on boys, amazon sells tissues. Order them and be chill.

Badrukks Invul works in CC. And Ghaz on a Waaagh, thats the only ones that are available in CC.

Yeah guys, totally chill! I mean it's not like people have listed known issues or anything!

Melcavuk is there stats for Nazdreg this round?

Makinit wrote:
Melcavuk is there stats for Nazdreg this round?

Nope, sorry.

The orks will IMHO get a boost: cheaper units (except shootaboyz), painboyz as ICs, 5++ from KFF, rerolls on a 2+ save, faster and bigger assault units, better Waaargh!...

We may not what to get "stuck in" as much as we want to get "dug in", but the orks are looking to me to become an army, that can outlive their opponents (hope) .

1. Reading the upcoming WD, it sounds like a battlewagon has 4HP, is this correct?

Could I use the specific ork detachment and then also use the normal rules detachment in the same game?

so they baited us with some cool Heavy Supports, the 'Ere we go rule, 5++ KFF, built up our dreams
And now they crush them with the death of the Mob Rule, more expensive Shoota Boyz, cutting many of the cool things from the previous codex, adding mostly random or useless stuff that wont work, all that and more...
They really forged a big narrative all over our faces

I've been trying to follow this thread but as I'm not an ork player it gets kind of confusing. Can someone break it down for me. What's the good, what's the bad and what's the blah?
Power level?
Fluffy?
Anything else?

MaRV wrote:The orks will IMHO get a boost: cheaper units (except shootaboyz), painboyz as ICs, 5++ from KFF, rerolls on a 2+ save, faster and bigger assault units, better Waaargh!...

We may not what to get "stuck in" as much as we want to get "dug in", but the orks are looking to me to become an army, that can outlive their opponents (hope) .

1. Reading the upcoming WD, it sounds like a battlewagon has 4HP, is this correct?

Yup, 4 HP

Rumblebee wrote:Could I use the specific ork detachment and then also use the normal rules detachment in the same game?

Yes, its just a new type of detachment but follows all of the detachment rules found in the 40K corebook. Essentially you could have a battleforged army with an Ork Horde Detachment and 2 Combined Arms detachments.

Maybe GW leaked this fake codex to be extremely brutal and cunning before the good one hits next weekend...

I honestly don't know what to do with my army now. I just started building it at the tail end of 6th, and I was set up more or less for a mixed fore of trukks and battlewagon rush that I guess is like a hybrid speed freakz. Does anyone else feel like the codex is being pushed more towards MSU-style units or specialized high cost units (trukk boyz, flash gitz in trukks/morkanaughts/wagons, burnas in morkanaughts, etc.)? Is that what I should start purchasing for? It seems like IC's are a lot more integral now with the relics wargear options, even if warbosses are more or less nerfed in CC without an invul.

 MWHistorian wrote:
I've been trying to follow this thread but as I'm not an ork player it gets kind of confusing. Can someone break it down for me. What's the good, what's the bad and what's the blah?
Power level?
Fluffy?
Anything else?

I'd say respectable mid tier. Its no tau but it doesnt seem tyranid to me.

I like it, I think alot of the unit choices are fun, you can work a theme with the wargear options.

its not the boost people were hoping for but I find it to be a solid codex.

Is there any way to generate more warp charges besides upgrading to lvl 2 and having 10 boyz with youl

Nope, so the most charges a single normal detachment can generate is 6 + D6 (2 lvl 2 weird boys, each near 10 boys)

On which note i need sleep, if anyone has any pressing questions I can be PM'd and I'll look at it in the morning. Otherwise have fun!

Are the stats for the HQ Mek (not Big Mek) the same as a normal boy?

Can Pain Boys get 'Eavy Amor?

Is the Strenght of the Zzap gun still random?

Are Kannons and Lobbas unchanged?

Sorry if this has been answered already but what is the effect of the Boss Pole?

I have a feeling that putting the new ork codex in a game against the old ork codex, the new one wouldn't really fare very well - think about that