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the_scotsman wrote:
Man, that Death vs Chaos book sounds amazing...I wish we could have some kind of evil vs evil campaign for 40k. Necrons vs Iron Warriors, Tyranids vs Orks...

it's just a campaign book though, no boxed set etc.

 Ghaz wrote:
As usual, you will get the date the Sunday before it goes on pre-order.

My issue is that we've known about the contents of PA4 for awhile now. We were teased about a big reveal Xmas Day, and it really wasn't. Then all of a sudden we have this complete lull in the releases (its the holidays, i get it). So instead of chucking out the hyped PA4 the first week after the holidays we get Aether wars instead, then told next is Sisters of Battle, but still nothing regarding PA4. If it was supposed to be late January, why start the hype in late November, early December.? It's just a book and 1 model, hardly worth the build up so far.

Sure, they could squeeze it in with the Sisters releases, but that seems odd. We've also not heard a squeak about the rules content, the usual rumour mills are absolutely silent, it's quite strange really. I know it's Dark Angels and secrets etc, but damn, this thing has been kept hush for quite a while now. So I guess bravo to the GW team for keeping it hidden, I guess? I still find it strange, especially when we've had a pretty good source in accurate rumours from the French sector.

 bullyboy wrote:
If it was supposed to be late January, why start the hype in late November, early December.? It's just a book and 1 model, hardly worth the build up so far.

This is part of their business model.

You guys don't think they'll preview PA4 today? Meaning it'll go on pre-order the 11th.. I just sort of assumed that'd be the case seeing as they didn't even mention it at the open day as far as I'm aware..

PiñaColada wrote:
You guys don't think they'll preview PA4 today? Meaning it'll go on pre-order the 11th.. I just sort of assumed that'd be the case seeing as they didn't even mention it at the open day as far as I'm aware..

Sisters of Battle preorders start on the 11th.

That's one heck of a break after 3 Ritual of the Damned short stories and no rules previews yet.. In any case, the past 3 weeks had a short story released on Monday: Dec 16, Dec 23, Dec 30. So I hope tomorrow, Jan 6, we'll see previews for the book and hopefully it will go up WITH sisters stuff on the 11th.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

Oh I assure you that I have no high hopes for PA: IV when they're already promoting the PA: V with the much-desired plastic shadowsun..

 BoomWolf wrote:
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

Hope leads to Tzeentch.

It sort of feels like somewhere along the line things got delayed with the PA stuff.

If we assume that shadowsun was going to be revealed on the new year open day around 6 months ago, it feels like PA IV should have been announced for pre-order/released this weekend just gone and there's been a delay.

Maybe shadownsun wasn't going to be revealed but GW has listened to the disgruntling of xenos fans and decided to show it to prove it's not all super marines.

Maybe it's the sisters of battle releases that has caused the delay... Who knows really, but it does seem a little all over the place, out of order and congested all of a sudden with the PA releases.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
It sort of feels like somewhere along the line things got delayed with the PA stuff.

If we assume that shadowsun was going to be revealed on the new year open day around 6 months ago, it feels like PA IV should have been announced for pre-order/released this weekend just gone and there's been a delay.

Maybe shadownsun wasn't going to be revealed but GW has listened to the disgruntling of xenos fans and decided to show it to prove it's not all super marines.

Maybe it's the sisters of battle releases that has caused the delay... Who knows really, but it does seem a little all over the place, out of order and congested all of a sudden with the PA releases.

You would like to hope sharing a month with any faction having a total relaunch would prove it's not all marines really

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
It sort of feels like somewhere along the line things got delayed with the PA stuff.

If we assume that shadowsun was going to be revealed on the new year open day around 6 months ago, it feels like PA IV should have been announced for pre-order/released this weekend just gone and there's been a delay.

Maybe shadownsun wasn't going to be revealed but GW has listened to the disgruntling of xenos fans and decided to show it to prove it's not all super marines.

Maybe it's the sisters of battle releases that has caused the delay... Who knows really, but it does seem a little all over the place, out of order and congested all of a sudden with the PA releases.

Lol. PA4 is not out in the start of the month and it's delay. It's been PA a month pretty consistently. It's 5.1. Plenty weeks left and already delays?

Not to mention any delay would have been decided months ago. And congested? What's congested. PA4 January, PA5 February, PA6 March. Fits PA1, 2 and 3. What congestion?

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
Maybe shadownsun wasn't going to be revealed but GW has listened to the disgruntling of xenos fans and decided to show it to prove it's not all super marines.

I was with you until this bit, disgruntled Tau?

40K has felt congested for a long time - the fact that some factions (CSM, SM) must buy three books for their rules is a good illustration of that fact.

WhiteDog wrote:
40K has felt congested for a long time - the fact that some factions (CSM, SM) must buy three books for their rules is a good illustration of that fact.

Ill trade you that SM book for a never used only dropped once GK codex, think how much time and effort you'll save not having to play your games or buy new books/models!

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
It sort of feels like somewhere along the line things got delayed with the PA stuff.
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It feels like Christmas and New Years happened, same as every year.

MiguelFelstone wrote:

WhiteDog wrote:
40K has felt congested for a long time - the fact that some factions (CSM, SM) must buy three books for their rules is a good illustration of that fact.

Ill trade you that SM book for a never used only dropped once GK codex, think how much time and effort you'll save not having to play your games or buy new books/models!

I personally don't play SM (I have a DA army but no SM) so I didn't buy the last SM codex. But I did buy the CSM "v2" and felt robbed. I also bought vigilus ablaze and faith and fury and you can imagine how happy I am to go play with a friend with those three books plus my army. You will soon be able to buy a psychic awakening for GK I'm sure you're thrilled about that.

WhiteDog wrote:
But I did buy the CSM "v2" and felt robbed. I also bought vigilus ablaze and faith and fury and you can imagine how happy I am to go play with a friend with those three books plus my army. You will soon be able to buy a psychic awakening for GK I'm sure you're thrilled about that.

I'm sorry, i didn't know, i wouldn't have made a sarcastic comment if i knew it was that bad (CSM "v2" looks like SM "1.1" to me).

Also i'm not thrilled, i'm worried, GW has had such a bad track record with this faction. "Fix" after "fix" after "fix" 2 years going. Add to that the fact that it's seemly delayed and that worry seems justified.

OK, so earliest release date is now the 25th, but more realistically it will be Feb 1st allowing a 2 week release for the SOB. Could be wrong, but that's the way it's looking.

How is it the 25th? who has shared confirmation that it will not release alongside sisters stuff the 11th? Does sisters stuff go on preorder the 11th? where are you getting this info

 Brometheus wrote:
How is it the 25th? who has shared confirmation that it will not release alongside sisters stuff the 11th? Does sisters stuff go on preorder the 11th? where are you getting this info

Sisters got THREE kits for preorder in 11th. Out of at least 16 I think they will in the end need to cover all units in their codex. This rate keeps up sisters will be five week release...

Unless the PA comes to preorder together with sister week #2 then first preorder could be 25th. And that's assuming week 2 for sisters is last one but that means 13 kits in one go for sisters(at which point not go for more even). It could very well be sisters are 3-4 week release. Though whether successive is another thing. We know all sisters will be out by start of april unless GW changes their patterns but that's it.

Very well I was wrong because I didn't see the article/news. I'll leave my previous post up to admit it my shame lol

my guess is PA4 will be up for pre-order next week, buried among sisters stuff.

 Brometheus wrote:
Very well I was wrong because I didn't see the article/news. I'll leave my previous post up to admit it my shame lol

Well I was expecting PA4 to come sooner as well. But then again I wasn't expecting sister release to be this small. I had been F5'ing a lot and cursed aloud when I saw how little sisters ended up getting for first week(weirdest thing is no canoness. You literally can't start with legal battallion with next week orders as your only HQ is special character...Which you don't want to field in small games...).

Ah well. Wasn't expecting full sister release now but was expecting most with rest coming month or two later. Way off. Alas not in positive direction :-/

BrianDavion wrote:
my guess is PA4 will be up for pre-order next week, buried among sisters stuff.

Nope. If it were, it would be in today's article pre-announcing the pre-orders, same as always.

It might get pre-announced in a week for pre-order in 13 days, but that's the earliest it can come now.

Voss wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
my guess is PA4 will be up for pre-order next week, buried among sisters stuff.

Nope. If it were, it would be in today's article pre-announcing the pre-orders, same as always.

It might get pre-announced in a week for pre-order in 13 days, but that's the earliest it can come now.

right not next week but the following week, so annoucned for pre-order next week.

Blood of Baal and Faith & Fury FAQs up.

If you expected any of the ambigiously-worded Tyranid rules to be decided in their favour, then lol.

Psychic Awakening: A Promise Fulfilled

I swear they are trolling us now.

MiguelFelstone wrote:

Psychic Awakening: A Promise Fulfilled

I swear they are trolling us now.

LOL! At least it's a good story. I've never seen a CSM seem quite so...reasonable.

Brian888 wrote:

MiguelFelstone wrote:

Psychic Awakening: A Promise Fulfilled

I swear they are trolling us now.

LOL! At least it's a good story. I've never seen a CSM seem quite so...reasonable.

You don't have to be insane to worship the Dark Gods and want to see the galaxy burn. I mean, it helps, but it's hardly a requirement.