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Just saw this on Facebook. Interesting development.

Yeah I just saw this in the new WI and an interesting fact not shown on BookFace....it's free appearantly!

Stupid question coming up.....

What period will this cover? Are we looking at the whole thing? If so will be interested in this, my Dad was hired by the Israeli's to teach their guys how to look after the Chieftains we sold them.

Not seeing a link for this on thier feed...anyone have it?

Err Colonel Kenny posted this yesterday?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/546758.page

So he did! Strange I looked over the board first to make sure this and managed to miss it completely. Please lock!

Don't worry, I did exactly the same a few days back with a GW IP infringement topic in news.

Turns out I'm the only person in the Western Hemisphere who didn't know....Finger on the pulse, nope not me.

So if it's free in the magazine it must be only a minor addition? Or you think they will do entire model range and such?

Yep, most of the models can be drawn from the existing WWII and Vietnam ranges. e.g. the SU-100s and T-34/85s

Depending on how the lists are arranged I may be tempted to modify some things from my mothballed Soviet army and start a force.

The one Vehicle I want is the Egyptian AMX - M4A4 cross bred...SHERMANTASTIC



Yeah that is a WORLD OF TANKS Premium of the future!

I even posted a link to the orginal ruleset for free download.

Daston wrote:
Stupid question coming up.....

What period will this cover? Are we looking at the whole thing? If so will be interested in this, my Dad was hired by the Israeli's to teach their guys how to look after the Chieftains we sold them.

What happened to your Dad because the Chieftain deal feel through and the Israeli's never received any...Thats why they developed the Merkava.

I have an old wargame of the arab israeli wars that uses carboard pieces and hexes. I never wrapped my head around the ruleset, so a second chance to look into this is awesome.

 iheartlargeblasttemplates wrote:
So if it's free in the magazine it must be only a minor addition? Or you think they will do entire model range and such?

If they want to do this well, they need new models. If they would do BTR-60 family in plastics in same quality they did M113, I would shait bricks..

Looks awesome ! It's good to see flames of war branch into different wars . The rules are solid and their minatures are great . It's nice to game a new period and not have to learn a whole new set of rules .

Remember guys Vietnam started as just a magazine supplement too!

Despite promising myself I wouldn't start any new projects until next summer I'm really tempted to get into this. I really like the look of T-55s. If I can build a list with T-55s and T-34/85s in it I think I'm in.

 MaahisKuningas wrote:

 iheartlargeblasttemplates wrote:
So if it's free in the magazine it must be only a minor addition? Or you think they will do entire model range and such?

If they want to do this well, they need new models. If they would do BTR-60 family in plastics in same quality they did M113, I would shait bricks..

I would shat Breeze blocks!

 George Spiggott wrote:
... If I can build a list with T-55s and T-34/85s in it I think I'm in.

I'm pretty sure the T-54/55s were in separate units from T-34/85s in the Egyptian army. I'm not sure about the Syrians and I think the Jordanians didn't use much WWII equipment at all if they used any.

The Egyptians did have T-34/85s and IS-3 (T-10s?) fighting in the same engagements a couple of times at least in '67 with SU-100s all over the place.

I have 21 T55s on the paint table right now. I hope I get to use them.

 Consul Scipio wrote:
The Egyptians did have T-34/85s and IS-3 (T-10s?) fighting in the same engagements a couple of times at least in '67 with SU-100s all over the place.

Having investigated a little, the homebrew Egyptian list allows a single platoon of T-55s in a T-34/85 company. They've got some punishing 'special' rules though, T-55s are -2 to hit if the move (RoF 1 and Hen and Chicks).

Why does every Soviet tank, even ones that aren't run by the Soviets, have Hen and Chicks?

Hell, if I'm fielding an American OPFOR unit, do I get Hen and Chicks simply by virtue of running Soviet armor? LOL

 Consul Scipio wrote:

The Egyptians did have T-34/85s and IS-3 (T-10s?) fighting in the same engagements a couple of times at least in '67 with SU-100s all over the place.

The IS-3 and the T-10 were different vehicles all together



There's an IS 3



And there's a T 10

The IS 3 saw combat in the 6 day war, I don't think the soviets ever exported the T 10 or used it in combat

Thanks for the reply EmilCrane!

I apologize I didn't mean to imply they were the same tank I meant I wasn't sure the T-10 was exported and used in combat in 1967. Teaches me not to post right after work. Anyway my hope is they include the IS-3 and make a model of it!

I always thought that hen and chicks represented that the Tanks did not have radios.

 col. krazy kenny wrote:
I always thought that hen and chicks represented that the Tanks did not have radios.

I ditched Hen & Chicks in my Cold War Homebrew because it was unrepresentative of the modern era. In WWII when the tanks were driven by ill educated peasants so the rules kind of works.

But by 1986 they were much more capable - with individual radios etc. Hen and Chicks is massively and needlessly debilitating - you need at least 4 to 1 in Tanks to mirror the WWII Swarm tactics and doing this with more modern tanks they would rip Abrams etc apart because the Tanks are actually really capable so you end up with lots of capable armour and it doesn't work or represent reality well. So I went with Smaller Platoons (3 Tank Platoons for Tank Regiment and 4 Tank Platoons for Motor Rifle as per the real world).

Hen and Chicks is outmoded post WWII in my opinion.

 Consul Scipio wrote:
Thanks for the reply EmilCrane!

I apologize I didn't mean to imply they were the same tank I meant I wasn't sure the T-10 was exported and used in combat in 1967. Teaches me not to post right after work. Anyway my hope is they include the IS-3 and make a model of it!

Not need to apologize, just wanted to clear up any misconceptions, and I'm right there with you in hopes for an IS3 model, I absolutely love that tank

The IS-III was used by the Egyptians to give long range gun support to the T-34/85s, T-54/55s and the T-62s.

I always liked the story that the Soviets sold them export models with heaters in them... while good for cold desert nights, the urban myth is that the Soviet heater had no off switch...

The Syrians had some WW2 German armour - Stugs, Panzer IVs, Jagdpanzer IVs and even some Hummels. They had some as late as '73 when they dug them in on the Golan Heights.

Jordanians had M113s and M47s ... Plus 100 Centurions and Saracens APCs. Lovely looking army to collect.

Yeah Jordanians are the ones I'm going for. I get lots of American and British Kit.

Any idea of the colour schemes, all the photo's I see are Black and White (for obvious reasons!).

 mwnciboo wrote:

 col. krazy kenny wrote:
I always thought that hen and chicks represented that the Tanks did not have radios.

I ditched Hen & Chicks in my Cold War Homebrew because it was unrepresentative of the modern era. In WWII when the tanks were driven by ill educated peasants so the rules kind of works.

But by 1986 they were much more capable - with individual radios etc. Hen and Chicks is massively and needlessly debilitating - you need at least 4 to 1 in Tanks to mirror the WWII Swarm tactics and doing this with more modern tanks they would rip Abrams etc apart because the Tanks are actually really capable so you end up with lots of capable armour and it doesn't work or represent reality well. So I went with Smaller Platoons (3 Tank Platoons for Tank Regiment and 4 Tank Platoons for Motor Rifle as per the real world).

Hen and Chicks is outmoded post WWII in my opinion.

I think I recall reading that in WWII Soviet Tank Companies, only the CO and and another tank could send/receive while all the others could just receive transmissions only. They had AM radios that only broadcasted on the company level, not the regiment/division. I could be mistaken, but I think this was at the beginning of the war; i believe later they upgraded their communications to FM radios with full send/receive transmitters, but i couldn't remember when this was done.

I thought Hen and Chicks was to represent that due to the INCREDIBLE casualty rate amongst soviet tank crews the only ones in a given company were the commanders, so there was very little initiative amongst the crews themselves, they just followed the lead tanks "Like a hen and her chicks"