Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Like the title suggests, I was just wondering if a librarian as a ig HQ would fare well?

My army is hammer and anvil (a mix of tanks and infantry) just for info.

Quick responses please

Librarians can take powers from Devination, right? Twin linked manticore anyone? And you get to TL the additional salvo shots.

Librarians are pretty much the classic ally choice for IG in 6th edition, it seems. I don't really think you can go wrong with a divination libby.

Thanks!

Do you think the chief or termie librarian could also be used , if so which one?

Librarians with Divination are fantastic allies. A Librarian and a min Tactical Squad chilling on an Quad Gun is ~ 175 points and can Twin Link your big nasties as well as providing BS4 fire on T4 3+ bodies.

It's a fantastic bolt-on to an existing IG list, but it also makes some other units absolutely loltastic. For example, 2 Punishers with heavy bolter sponsons weigh in at 420 points and put out 58 S5 twin-linked shots.

These actually provide a fairly good answer to Invisibility / Grimoired Flesh Hounds and things like that.

That sounds troll-y!

any ideas on which powers to take?

sanctionedpsyker001 wrote:
That sounds troll-y!

any ideas on which powers to take?

Prescience. Keep it cheap and easy.

Well, you already get prescience for your infantry units. It's called either BiD or FRF, depending on the weapon. Given that you can't cast it on guys in transports, they're pretty much stuck helping HS choices. I guess you could TL a punisher or something, but, I don't know. It doesn't sound home run great.

That said, librarians have some nasty book powers. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what their new book powers are when they get their new book shortly.

A Librarian in a large imperial guard infantry unit is always a sure bet. Prescience allows you to reroll all failed to hit rolls which is absolutely fantastic. On the off chance you get into close combat, you can even pull off a lot of hits with that and overwatch. My favorite right now is a Blood Angels librarian since death company make for a fantastic unit to mop up whatever you might have failed to kill. It's rare but it does happen!

I get the feeling that Tigurius will be very popular with Guard players based on what Ive heard and read.

An Leman Russ executioner with 2 extra plasma cannons or a pair of basilisks run about the same cost. They seem like a good candidate for prescience.

I wasn't aware Librarians could take Divination...

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
It's a fantastic bolt-on to an existing IG list, but it also makes some other units absolutely loltastic. For example, 2 Punishers with heavy bolter sponsons weigh in at 420 points and put out 58 S5 twin-linked shots.

These actually provide a fairly good answer to Invisibility / Grimoired Flesh Hounds and things like that.

Both Punishers with re-rolls (which you can't get anyway since you can only take a single Libby) collectively do 4.8 wounds on Invisible Flesh Hounds. That's only two Hounds dead. That's not even close to a good answer.

Anyway as to the thread as a whole, surprisingly nobody has pointed out the single biggest asset of an allied Libby to IG; giving a blob ATSKNF.

 Godless-Mimicry wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
It's a fantastic bolt-on to an existing IG list, but it also makes some other units absolutely loltastic. For example, 2 Punishers with heavy bolter sponsons weigh in at 420 points and put out 58 S5 twin-linked shots.

These actually provide a fairly good answer to Invisibility / Grimoired Flesh Hounds and things like that.

Both Punishers with re-rolls (which you can't get anyway since you can only take a single Libby) collectively do 4.8 wounds on Invisible Flesh Hounds. That's only two Hounds dead. That's not even close to a good answer.

Anyway as to the thread as a whole, surprisingly nobody has pointed out the single biggest asset of an allied Libby to IG; giving a blob ATSKNF.

Point taken on Invisible Hounds, but they are throwing down 29 wounds on T4. That's nothing to laugh at.

You can absolutely Prescience 2 Punishers simultaneously. You can actually Prescience 3. They are available in squadrons.

 wildboar wrote:
I wasn't aware Librarians could take Divination...

Try DA libbies or BA libbies, the other go to SM is space wolves for their runic weapon defence and can also take divination. Vanilla marines currently cannot do prescience.

I think SM libbies (and wolves rune priests) help blob squads more then mech guard, as 1 it gives them re roll to hit for shooting and combat and 2 makes then have ATSNKF so they cannot get run down.

As to BiD and FRFSRF, thats hardly comparable to prescience, for one BiD is only against certain unit types and two FRFSRF is getting a extra shot, now that with prescience is pretty darn horrible!.


Also the other good power on divination for guard is Forewarning to give any model/unit with 12inches a 4++ save, misfortune to make the enenmy re roll all saves against all your shots or scriers gaze to either get your vendettas in or keep them off.

MarkyMark wrote:

 wildboar wrote:
I wasn't aware Librarians could take Divination...

Try DA libbies or BA libbies, the other go to SM is space wolves for their runic weapon defence and can also take divination. Vanilla marines currently cannot do prescience.

I think SM libbies (and wolves rune priests) help blob squads more then mech guard, as 1 it gives them re roll to hit for shooting and combat and 2 makes then have ATSNKF so they cannot get run down.

As to BiD and FRFSRF, thats hardly comparable to prescience, for one BiD is only against certain unit types and two FRFSRF is getting a extra shot, now that with prescience is pretty darn horrible!.


Also the other good power on divination for guard is Forewarning to give any model/unit with 12inches a 4++ save, misfortune to make the enenmy re roll all saves against all your shots or scriers gaze to either get your vendettas in or keep them off.

Thanks for clarifying, I play Vanilla so was pretty darn sure I couldn't ally a plain old Libby in with my Guard or I'd of been doing it long before now. I wasn't aware the DA and BA differed in the powers they could take from the regular Vanilla one. Good to know for future reference, my good friend plays Wolves so I was aware of the Rune Priest combo etc.

As far as I know in the next SM book, according to the rumors, the book powers are gone and the BRB psychic powers like prescience are what is going to be taken instead much like DA.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 Godless-Mimicry wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
It's a fantastic bolt-on to an existing IG list, but it also makes some other units absolutely loltastic. For example, 2 Punishers with heavy bolter sponsons weigh in at 420 points and put out 58 S5 twin-linked shots.

These actually provide a fairly good answer to Invisibility / Grimoired Flesh Hounds and things like that.

Both Punishers with re-rolls (which you can't get anyway since you can only take a single Libby) collectively do 4.8 wounds on Invisible Flesh Hounds. That's only two Hounds dead. That's not even close to a good answer.

Anyway as to the thread as a whole, surprisingly nobody has pointed out the single biggest asset of an allied Libby to IG; giving a blob ATSKNF.

Point taken on Invisible Hounds, but they are throwing down 29 wounds on T4. That's nothing to laugh at.

You can absolutely Prescience 2 Punishers simultaneously. You can actually Prescience 3. They are available in squadrons.

Right, didn't know you were talking about a Squadron. Sorry.