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I am opening this thread to post my list(which is always public) and this thread will also be the place I post the Nova Invitational Tournament Report. In addition, you all can vote to see how you think I will do in the tournament. Take note I am also playing in the Nova Open with a separate army. Should be quite the gauntlet.

The Army I will be using for the Invitational:


Eldar/Tau:
HQ:
Farseer w/ Jetbike; Spirit Stone of Analth'lan

Troops:
5 Dire Avengers; Wave Serpent TL Bright Lance
5 Dire Avengers; Wave Serpent TL Bright Lance
10 Guardian Defenders; Wave Serpent TL Scatter Laser
10 Guardian Defenders; Wave Serpent TL Scatter Laser

Heavy:
3 x War Walkers W/ 2x Scatter Laser
3 x War Walkers W/ 2x Bright Lance

Allies:
Commander; Vectored Retro-Thrusters; Onager Gauntlet; Command and Control Node; Puretide Engram Neurochip; Multi-Spectrum Sensor Suite; Iridium Battlesuit

Troops:
10 Kroot

Heavy:
3 Broadsides w/ Railgun and SMS; 5 Missile Drones

None of the lists I saw at Pleasanton had an upside down Taudar. Isn't there a way to take suits for troops? Cool idea though

 doktor_g wrote:
None of the lists I saw at Pleasanton had an upside down Taudar. Isn't there a way to take suits for troops? Cool idea though

There is with the new farsight supplement, but it depends on whether the tourny will allow it as there isnt a hardback version yet and staggered release times for ipad and android! (i.e we usually have a 1 month old limit on new dex's, in that you cannot use them at tournies until they are a month old, how are they going to do that with the new supplements is a recent question that has been brought up!).

Anyway, how many pts is it TK?, I am gussing commander and farseer in with the broadsides?

Tbh, the warwalkers with Brightlances are subpar if you look at how Dark reapers perform with the Taucommander & Aegis w/ Icarus.

But that would need some small adjustments to the list. I do however like the list, tons of firepower!!

doktor_g wrote:None of the lists I saw at Pleasanton had an upside down Taudar. Isn't there a way to take suits for troops? Cool idea though

Yea I usually go tau primary but took the wave serpents for their survivability and fire power.

MarkyMark wrote:

 doktor_g wrote:
None of the lists I saw at Pleasanton had an upside down Taudar. Isn't there a way to take suits for troops? Cool idea though

There is with the new farsight supplement, but it depends on whether the tourny will allow it as there isnt a hardback version yet and staggered release times for ipad and android! (i.e we usually have a 1 month old limit on new dex's, in that you cannot use them at tournies until they are a month old, how are they going to do that with the new supplements is a recent question that has been brought up!).

Anyway, how many pts is it TK?, I am gussing commander and farseer in with the broadsides?

Both tournaments are 1850pts. The farsight enclave was legal but I elected not to run them. The commander and the farseer will be escorting the broadsides. It was the best way to take advantage of farseers powers.
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Valek wrote:Tbh, the warwalkers with Brightlances are subpar if you look at how Dark reapers perform with the Taucommander & Aegis w/ Icarus.

But that would need some small adjustments to the list. I do however like the list, tons of firepower!!

Yea i am already at the nova though so won't be able to modify the list anymore. I like the idea of 6 lance weapons from one unit. Majority of the time they should kill what they target.

IMO this list has a lot of missed potential with poor load outs, target presentation, and really relies on your Broadside unit and the correct psychic powers. I think breaking 500 will be difficult, but I've played against you in the past and you are competent, so 2-3 or 3-2.

Zagman wrote:
IMO this list has a lot of missed potential with poor load outs, target presentation, and really relies on your Broadside unit and the correct psychic powers. I think breaking 500 will be difficult, but I've played against you in the past and you are competent, so 2-3 or 3-2.

When and where did we face off? Always looking to link online alias to faces. As for the psychic ill try for fortune then get prescience and guide.

 Tomb King wrote:

Zagman wrote:
IMO this list has a lot of missed potential with poor load outs, target presentation, and really relies on your Broadside unit and the correct psychic powers. I think breaking 500 will be difficult, but I've played against you in the past and you are competent, so 2-3 or 3-2.

When and where did we face off? Always looking to link online alias to faces. As for the psychic ill try for fortune then get prescience and guide.

The last game of the last Ard Boyz.


It's not a bad list, but only 4 AV12, no Shuriken Cannons on the Serpents, flimsy War Walkers, no Drone Controller on the Commander, Bright Lances on the Serpents, and your stationary Farseer. The unit he is with won't benefit from Guide or Prescience and the serpents which could use them will quickly be out of range, also makes the command and control node. I feel that parts of this list do not synergize well with the others, the farseer and Commander perform similar rolls and will be redundant. Its a lot of points for a stationary 36/60" threat.

Zagman wrote:

 Tomb King wrote:

Zagman wrote:
IMO this list has a lot of missed potential with poor load outs, target presentation, and really relies on your Broadside unit and the correct psychic powers. I think breaking 500 will be difficult, but I've played against you in the past and you are competent, so 2-3 or 3-2.

When and where did we face off? Always looking to link online alias to faces. As for the psychic ill try for fortune then get prescience and guide.

The last game of the last Ard Boyz.


It's not a bad list, but only 4 AV12, no Shuriken Cannons on the Serpents, flimsy War Walkers, no Drone Controller on the Commander, Bright Lances on the Serpents, and your stationary Farseer. The unit he is with won't benefit from Guide or Prescience and the serpents which could use them will quickly be out of range, also makes the command and control node. I feel that parts of this list do not synergize well with the others, the farseer and Commander perform similar rolls and will be redundant. Its a lot of points for a stationary 36/60" threat.

Drone controller doesnt help missile drones, Guide is 24" range. I wont be advancing the serpents unless i have too. No use in putting them in harms way too early. The shuriken cannons are 10pts a pop and arent that great imho. Their range was the biggest downside I had with them along with the price. I could of dropped missile drones for them but elected not to as the missile drones are higher strength with greater range and will just about always be twin linked. The farseer can also move to contest on the last turns of the game. They have similar rolls but different targets.

You are absolutely right about the Drone controller, can't believe I forgot that. I understand what your strategy is, but it relies on your Farseer, Commander, and Broadsides being Immobile. Its a 600pt unit once deployed that screams your game plan to the enemy and is hugely susceptible to AP2 fire, especially the Large blast Variety sported by nearly every Riptide ever. Two smartly deployed Riptides counters most of your Army, forces you to close the gap, and controls the flow of the game. I mention it because its a common build. If you were going to castle them I think dropping a War Walker for a Spiritseer for guaranteed Conceal would have been huge, 2+ with 3+ or 2+ cover and a tanking T5 Commander would have been better.

Anyway, good luck. I look forward to reading the NOVA battle reports.

Good luck TK.

You have a knack of surprising us with your generalship. Looking forwards to see how you will do.

From how strong the field is, I predict 3-2.

I'll be there too, with three blue Dreadknights for your lances/railguns to kill immediately

I think sometimes people are a little harsh on how 'bad' army lists are - your list might not make a lot of sense to the outside observer, but neither do a lot of top lists. A huge part of playing well comes from a person's ability to understand what needs to happen in a game and having the tools to get that job done, however unorthodox.

That said, I wouldn't bet on any specific player having more than 3 wins in this stupidly competitive bunch, so I put you at 3-2. I personally just hope I'm not the one to go 0-5, haha!

Good luck sir!

jy2 wrote:Good luck TK.

You have a knack of surprising us with your generalship. Looking forwards to see how you will do.

From how strong the field is, I predict 3-2.

Thanks for both the luck and the compliment. I hate to say it but it looks like match-ups will play a large roll in this event.

Xaereth wrote:I'll be there too, with three blue Dreadknights for your lances/railguns to kill immediately

I think sometimes people are a little harsh on how 'bad' army lists are - your list might not make a lot of sense to the outside observer, but neither do a lot of top lists. A huge part of playing well comes from a person's ability to understand what needs to happen in a game and having the tools to get that job done, however unorthodox.

That said, I wouldn't bet on any specific player having more than 3 wins in this stupidly competitive bunch, so I put you at 3-2. I personally just hope I'm not the one to go 0-5, haha!

Good luck sir!

See above comment about match ups. If you meet up with the couple of guys running 120 kroot you might have a field day. My list is built to kill a riptide a turn or in your case a dreadknight a turn. Good luck to you to. The wait here is killing me.



Note: I apologize in advance for how piss poor my army looks. I spent the last two weeks living out of a back pack in the fields of kansas. So I did not have time to paint up my army to anything more then 3 color minimum. My Open army will actually be painted to a higher regard as the 56th was my first GT army.

Top table to start ustream.tv search eleventh company

My army not pink

Very well played in your first match-up. Entertaining game which seemed to be played in the right spirit.

djn wrote:
Very well played in your first match-up. Entertaining game which seemed to be played in the right spirit.

Thanks always good to hear. I actually misread the faq apparently bladestorm will wound anything on a 6.

I'm working on my own Mechdar list currently, and I gotta concur with the concern over the lack of Cannons on the scatter laser serpents. Seems like you are halving your firepower to save 10 points each. I assume you are firing at troops, and your losing 2-3 wounds a turn a serpent. Roughly guess a kill a turn, that's 10 corpses you aren't making in a game, even against power armored targets.

Are the kroot an outflanked for you, or just a cheap troop? If the latter, possibly consider a unit of 12 fire warriors with their 30" gun, and cadre fire blade instead of the tau commander. It forms a 26 shot gun line at 30", and 39 shots at 15" with str 5 guns. You can put them forward enough to guide them and prescience your broadsides.

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Alright ladies and gentlemen. Might as well try and get this ball rolling. I will post the actual match tomorrow.


Also you can view the whole match live here: http://m.ustream.tv/recorded/37976817

Game 1:
Deployment: Hammer and Anvil
Mission:
Primary: Big Guns Never Tire 4 Objectives(In the 4 table quarters)
Secondary: Slay the warlord; line breaker; kill points (each worth 1 point if win each aka winning kill points gives 1 vp of the 3)
Tertiary: Table Quarters

Opponent: Alex Fennell
Army: Eldar Flaming Lips Craftword (TauDar)

HQ:
Farseer, runes of warding, witnessing, jetbike, spirit stone, singing spear
Spiritseer
Allied: Ethereal, Blacksun Filter

Elite:
Riptide, twin fusion blaster, velocity tracker, early warning override

Troops:
6 jetbikes, 2 shuriken cannons
3 Jetbikes, 1 shuriken cannon
3 Jetbikes, 1 shuriken cannon
5 Dire Avengers in wave serpent w/ TL scatter lasers, shuriken cannon, holo field
5 Wraithguard, D-scythes in wave serpent w/ TL scatter lasers, shuriken cannon, holo field
Allied: 11 Fire Warriors

Heavy:
3 Warwalkers, 6 brightlances
Wraithknight

Pre-game thoughts: Alex won best overall for both tournaments last year and was in the final 16 of Adepticon with me when I went. I know he is a good player and it appears he has a very mobile force to include scoring jetbikes which can cover the board in a span of a turn. I will have to kill them any chance I get. Another priority target is the wave serpents to include the very effective D-scythe wraith guard. If they get a chance to flame me they will most likely kill anything that gets to close. The riptide is an obvious target. The one thing I am uncertain of his the wraithknight. I have yet to battle the new MC and it looks tough with T8 and 5 wounds. Not to mention it can advance 12" The warwalkers will be a threat as well as they can seriously damage anything in my army that I want to keep alive to include broadsides, serpents, and my own walkers. This game was my first match in the invitational and was over the live stream. If you saw it feel free to comment but I ask no spoilers until the round is completely posted.

Pre Game Rolls: He wins the roll to go first. I get prescience, guide, and eldrich storm. His seer keeps his battle focus power farseer I dont remember his powers.

Predictions?

Deployment:

He places the tau firewarriors with ethereal in the ruins with the wraithknight. The riptide behind the ruins and one wave serpent in the corner. The one in the middle he hadnt placed yet. It was deployed behind the ruins. My deployment is clear. Commander up front to tank some wounds and drones next to him just in case of S10 shots. I reserve both walkers squads and outflank my kroot. Its big guns so all of them are scoring. He reserves his bikes and his walkers.

I fail to seize!

Flaming lips turn 1:

TK Turn 1:

Flaming lips turn 2:

TK Turn 2:

Flaming lips turn 3:

Mid-game Analysis:

TK turn 3:

Flaming lips turn 4:

TK Turn 4:

Flaming lips turn 5:

TK Turn 5:

Post Game Analysis and results:


Also you can view the whole match live here: http://m.ustream.tv/recorded/37976817

It's going to depend on terrain. If there is enough LOS-blocking terrain, then he has a chance to win. Otherwise, you have a major advantage by going 2nd and your guns out-range his for the most part.

 jy2 wrote:
It's going to depend on terrain. If there is enough LOS-blocking terrain, then he has a chance to win. Otherwise, you have a major advantage by going 2nd and your guns out-range his for the most part.

Its nova, there is plenty of LOS blocking terrain. Was surprised not to see that many nids represented. As for the report... trying to get my pictures uploaded but I lost my usb cord. So searching for alternative methods.

The cord from my phone is the same one my camera uses.. Check that?

Did you take a support system on the broadsides like target locks so that your Broadsides and Missile Drones could have shot at two different units? Or Early Warning Override for Intercept?

Edit. Well I suppose intetceptor wouldn't be that useful with that loadout.

Note: I apologize in advance for how piss poor my army looks. I spent the last two weeks living out of a back pack in the fields of kansas. So I did not have time to paint up my army to anything more then 3 color minimum. My Open army will actually be painted to a higher regard as the 56th was my first GT army.

 Thortek wrote:
Note: I apologize in advance for how piss poor my army looks. I spent the last two weeks living out of a back pack in the fields of kansas. So I did not have time to paint up my army to anything more then 3 color minimum. My Open army will actually be painted to a higher regard as the 56th was my first GT army.

I am curious as to why? I am hoping it is for a hunting season I might have missed, I just moved to CO but I spend a decent amount of time in KS due to the inlaws.

Simple.. I am in the USA. We had some field training.

Ahh, Military. Well then allow me to extend my thanks to you for all the sacrifices you have made for this country.

I'm looking forward to the batrep!

Thortek wrote:Ahh, Military. Well then allow me to extend my thanks to you for all the sacrifices you have made for this country.

Thank you sir on behalf of my brothers.

Dozer Blades wrote:I'm looking forward to the batrep!

I just posted round 1. I didnt have more then 2 pictures for this round because of the live feed. Also this was a lot of games ago so the details are a tad hazy. Hope you all enjoy. I have more pictures for later rounds.

I'm a little confused by your opponent's army list-- I think a Cadre Fireblade might be much more effective than an Ethereal in that sort of composition. That said, congratulations on the win. It sounds like it was a very intense match!

Alex is very very good and typically plays the unusual "white dwarf" style armies. He's kicked my butt the 3 games we've played againt each other so kudos on taking him down first round TK.