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Im surprised that no one posted this.
It is kinda scary that so many where affected by one outage
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/people-unable-to-access-food-stamp-benefits-because-of-computer-outage/2013/10/12/11cfe2c6-3385-11e3-8627-c5d7de0a046b_story.html
People in 17 states, including Maryland and Virginia, who tried to buy groceries using electronic food-stamp cards were turned away from supermarkets Saturday as a result of a computer outage.

The system failure affected low-income individuals and families who receive food benefits through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and Women, Infants and Children program (WIC).

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The outage occurred during a “routine test” of backup systems Saturday morning, Jennifer Wasmer, a spokeswoman for Xerox, which administers the program, said. By late Saturday, access had been restored.

After the system failed, SNAP and WIC beneficiaries in the affected states were unable to buy food using electronic benefit transfers.

“Beneficiary access to programs such as SNAP, TANF, and other programs has been restored to the 17 States where Xerox provides EBT service. Re-starting the EBT system required time to ensure service was back at full functionality,” Wasmer said in a statement.

Courtney Rowe, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Department of Agriculture, told the Associated Press that the outage was not related to the government shutdown.

Earlier Saturday, Brian Schleter, a spokesman for the Maryland Department of Human Resources, which provides services to low-income residents, confirmed the problems with the electronic benefits system. He said Maryland officials were in “close communication” with Xerox and were working to restore service as soon as possible.

More than 6,000 Maryland residents received food assistance last month, according to state data. It was unclear how many residents in Maryland were unable to obtain food Saturday. Virginia officials could not be reached for comment Saturday.

Before repairs were made, Wasmer suggested that beneficiaries “work with their local retailers, who can activate an emergency voucher system where available.”

“We appreciate our clients’ patience while we work through this outage as quickly as possible,” she said.

Many people had to walk away from full grocery carts Saturday.

Richard Elwell, who lives in Chevy Chase, said someone he knows went to two grocery stores, and was unable to buy food at either. His first thought when heard about the problem: the government shutdown.

“I was wondering what was going [on],” Elwell said.

But Wasmer said the shutdown was not the problem.

USDA officials have said that food benefits were not in immediate jeopardy from the shutdown. Funds would be available through late October, officials said.
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If you got some post it.
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 Ninjacommando wrote:
I don't understand how the Wic people were affected. They don't use electronics for their program they use checks that the a store runs through as a normal check and its sent back to regional headquaters before its sent back to the Wic provider and cash exchanged.

The solution? instead of giving people an EBT card you take a list of the people on EBT and get the Number of people per household (along with age) and every week enough food is delivered to the person/family (comprising of healthy food). That why they don't spend the EBT on junk food.

The EBT program could learn from the WIC program and give people healthy foood

That just sounds like a horrible Logistical problem. What if the food is not delivered on time? What is no one is there to recieve it and it gets taken if left on the doorstep? Who will deliver it? A new delivery service? Because the USPS isnt going to deliver hundred of boxes of food.
Just limit what you an buy with the card 10% junkfood, 30-40% fresh produce etc etc
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How is that Mitigating cost? You still need to find people to deliver it, In a refrigerated truck and on time. You would need several hundred more offices then you do know to deal with the deliveries.
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Jobs the Govt cant afford.
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Human Nature at it finest, if you can get away with it, do it.
Its shameful.
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What about people that do not want to eat all those vegetables and produce? And what is "Healthy" I think the current system is fine. Also what is the definition of "Junk Food" is jelly and peanut butter Junk food? Are Tortilla chips? What about sweets? Or do poor people not allowed sweets.
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 Ninjacommando wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
What about people that do not want to eat all those vegetables and produce? And what is "Healthy" I think the current system is fine. Also what is the definition of "Junk Food" is jelly and peanut butter Junk food? Are Tortilla chips? What about sweets? Or do poor people not allowed sweets.


The current system is not fine, having worked as a cashier at a safeway over half of the people on EBT would ring up the same dam items every week, ~$200 of doritos, Coke/pepsi, digiorno/tombstone pizzas, oreos (so many dam oreos), 4.5 qts tubs of ice cream. After that i'd ring up their 24pack of pabst blue ribbon or Budwiser and then tell them "have a nice day". They would proceed over to the Customers service desk and buy 1-2 cartons of cigarettes and a few lottery tickets with the cash they had on them. (With EBT you can buy any food item that isnt, Hot, Alcohol, or tobacco)

Now is that everyone on EBT? heck no, there were people on it who actually bought healthy food with it for them and their family.

If people on EBT want to eat junk food they can spend their own cash on it and not tax payers cash.

And your solution is the force what type of food you want them to eat on them?
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That is you, now imagine, Oh maybe 3 kids?
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So if im on welfare, I cant enjoy a nice Pepsi once and awhile?
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the "No Name Brands and "No junk food" Is just stupid. you are trying to control what you put in people bodies. A case of soda is going to cost the same no matter the brand. Also how do you conclude what "Name Brand" means.
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Yeah, IS Shasta A name brand? Or how About Squirt? What if they are owned by a name brand?
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 cincydooley wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
So if im on welfare, I cant enjoy a nice Pepsi once and awhile?


Nope. Not with your EBT or SNAP or food stamps. You're on the people's dime, you don't get luxuries. Soda is a luxury. It shouldn't be remotely comfortable to be on it.


So if im on the peoples dime i deserve to be miserable? A bed is a luxury. I don't get to sleep on a bed then huh? do I not get to have hot water because that is a luxery. Look at what your saying, you are saying because someone is on foodstamps, they deserve to me miserable.
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Why the feth shouldnt it? These are people who are stuck in a crapppy situation and looked down upon. The idea of "Generatinal Welfare" is a near myth
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No. they are saying they don't deserve to be comfortabl. im saying they least deserve some luxuries like soda and cookies.
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 cincydooley wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
No. they are saying they don't deserve to be comfortabl. im saying they least deserve some luxuries like soda and cookies.


We wholeheartedly disagree.

You don't "deserve to be comfortable" on social services. In fact, it should be uncomfortable. You should WANT to get off it. That specific lack of comfort should serve as a primary motivating factor to get off of it.

The Primary reason people dont leave is because it is it uncomfortable. It is because it is hard to have a job where you can feed kids if you are alone in raising them. People rarely stay one welfare bacause it is all candy. It is embarassing to ask "How do I do EBT with this machine"


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Relapse wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
No. they are saying they don't deserve to be comfortabl. im saying they least deserve some luxuries like soda and cookies.


Yes, but you escalated not being able to buy a soda to having no bed or hot water. I was waiting for the next bit where people on food stamps were rooting naked in the fields.
I know you mean well, but I stated in an earlier post, if someone is eating on the taxpayer dime, perhaps they can eat a bit more healthy choices than stuff that would send them to the doctor or dentist on our dime.

He was saying that they dont deserve to be comfortable, I was trying to say that "Comfotable" is very subjective, Maybe it is OOT comparison. And yes they could afford to eat healthier foods. My cousin with four kids does. She made great meals before she left welfare. Healthy and good(She did have her own garden too) but every once in awhile her kids wanted soda, or she was too sick to cook so she threw in a frozen pizza. What im trying to say is that banning those items just seems spiteful to those who are already in a crap situation..
Also, Newsflash, you are living of taxpayers money no matter who you are. the government subsidizes so many things.

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It is not always easy to work your way out of having to use an EBT card. first the jobs you do find pay so little foodstamps are better. Second, what if you have 3 kids? Then what if one gets sick and you have to stay home. You act like it is easy to just walk up and get out of poverty.
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I think they should. Let people who are in a crap situation atleast of a candy bar and soda every once in awhile.
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What money, if you are living off foodstamps you tend to not have other money. You tend to have money for rent/bills and for clothes or things like that.


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 Alfndrate wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think they should. Let people who are in a crap situation atleast of a candy bar and soda every once in awhile.

McDouble and small fries are cheaper than a Hershey Bar and Coke...

Neither of which are conducive to food that allows someone to function well...

Umm....yu cant even buy food at fastfood places with EMT

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So tell me this. Why does living on taxpayer money not entitle someone to soda. Why can someone, just because they are on food stamps, something that is embarassing to all hell, not have a soda.
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If that is all they are drinking yes. But why not one every once in awhile. Im not saying they should be able to but nothing but candy and soda with it. What im saying is that where is the harm in allowing a small amount of it?
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We are arguing in circles. I give up.
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Ok,
1: I think we should allow it because one once in awhile is not harmful. Like all "Unhealthy" foods if you have one once in awhile it is not bad, it isnt good but it is not bad.
2: People on welfare, living off the state are in a crap situation. They live in crap situations and constantly get embarrased and shamed for being in that situation. Let them have a soda, they dont have much else to look forward to.
3: Living on welfare does not meean you are a mooch. Sometimes with kids, school or other things like that that can prevent you from working, it is the best option. My cousin hurt his leg on the jb and cannot work. He is living off EBT. All he has to look forward to is a soda and sitting infront of the TV. Why take that from him?
Also, most places over here sell soda for 1$, and milk for 8$

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Maybe Im wrong. I dont know. I just feel alot of this "You cant have this, or this or this" idea from food stamps is just a "I have mine, why should you have yours" mentality I see on dakka alot and hate
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sorry, I meant 2 for 8$, that is how I alway buy it so I remembered that. And his skillset(Truck Driver) He cant. And by hurt I mean hurt hurt. several surgeries and massive amounts of pain killers everyday for his leg.
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I realize you guys are right. Ok. So I was working at the register today. At my work(I work at a campus Cafeteria) there are regalements. 7$ a day for food from a campus eatery a day. for 5 days. One of my co-workers comes in and uses hers to buy 3 bags of chips and a soda on those regalements.....Me and her work in the same place, the same hours and the same time. She gets 7$ a day for food when I bring my lunch and have 10$ a week at school for drinks and the occasional snakes. I know realize people o this alot. Do nothing but use free 7$ to buy drinks or chips. 7$ a day for 5 days......I know realize you guys are right
 
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