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I became disinterested in the Horus Heresy when it seemed like they were just spinning out books based in the setting rather than any actual narrative of events. Do you think it will ever end? It'd be cool if they made some event in the recent future that could have a load of novels chucked at it...maybe some crusade or something.

No. The long war will continue until the false emperor is cast down along with the imperium.

You won't see an end as long as the books keep selling. This is a cash cow that just keeps on milking. You've lost interest (And to be honest, I have Angel Exterminatus, and Betrayer and haven't even touched them.. been losing interest too), but most people are still reading. What is making me lose interest most is the push towards selling books as hard back instead of paperback to start.. gosh, really? So now I have to spend like $25 to keep up? Whatever.

Not any time in the near future. I started to lose the will too, same reasons as stated above. Is it me, or do people JUST want to read the siege of terra and the attack on the palace from here on in.

They will probably get around to the Battle of Terra in the next few years, but expect them to get at least a dozen books out of that one.

Even after they've gotten to the climax, they will go back and fill out blank areas. And then there's the aftermath of course.

Really, there isn't any hurry to finish it. We already know the ending so there isn't much incentive to finish it. Not like we can have a giant "holycrapIdidn'tseethatcomingatallOMGWTFBBQ$*%^#*%&#@$@..." thing to end with.

 Matt1785 wrote:
You won't see an end as long as the books keep selling. This is a cash cow that just keeps on milking. You've lost interest (And to be honest, I have Angel Exterminatus, and Betrayer and haven't even touched them.. been losing interest too), but most people are still reading. What is making me lose interest most is the push towards selling books as hard back instead of paperback to start.. gosh, really? So now I have to spend like $25 to keep up? Whatever.

Curious. I've Been paying $11 bucks for all of my HH books. Vulkan Lives and an Unremembered Empire were both quite good.

It stopped being interesting once I realised that lots of things were happening but the story wasn't going anywhere. Most of the important stuff, from my point of view, has been covered eg. Lorgar's fall, Prospero, Horus's corruption. All I care about now is the Battle of Terra.

+1 for battle of terra.

Heck make it a 3 part series and i will still buy it. I've only read Black templar books, but fleshing out the events of that battle interest's me.

Honestly, I think the seige is gonna be more then a trilogy, and more a "set background"

I started to lose interest around The Last Heretic, and don't thing I've read any since. It seemed to become clear that the GALAXY SPANNING CIVIL WAR, pitting brother against brother, warfare across the ENTIRE GALAXY was... going to be fought entirely by the Marine Legions. On about a dozen planets. Yay.

Granted, those seemed to be the most important battles, but unless things have changed significantly I suspect that most outlying regions of the fledgling Imperium would be hard pushed to even notice that there's a war on.

They could make more than a few books out the attack on the Sol system and the whole Terra thing, so there's no need to make endless subplots that interest few and don't move the storyline forward one bit. Judging by the thread so far I'd say GW are killing the cash cow, fast.

The HH is 40k's M*A*S*H.


A saga that will go on for far longer than the actual events portrayed did. When it does end, though, it should be seen as a mercy killing.

 cincydooley wrote:

 Matt1785 wrote:
You won't see an end as long as the books keep selling. This is a cash cow that just keeps on milking. You've lost interest (And to be honest, I have Angel Exterminatus, and Betrayer and haven't even touched them.. been losing interest too), but most people are still reading. What is making me lose interest most is the push towards selling books as hard back instead of paperback to start.. gosh, really? So now I have to spend like $25 to keep up? Whatever.

Curious. I've Been paying $11 bucks for all of my HH books. Vulkan Lives and an Unremembered Empire were both quite good.

Even in Hard back? The only store I can go to to get the books is the GW, and they only sell the hardback novel, and it's expensive as heck. I haven't been dowlnoading the eBooks, but that's probably what I'll have to switch to since Hardbacks are the only things published anymore.. followed MONTHS later by the paperback.

 Matt1785 wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

 Matt1785 wrote:
You won't see an end as long as the books keep selling. This is a cash cow that just keeps on milking. You've lost interest (And to be honest, I have Angel Exterminatus, and Betrayer and haven't even touched them.. been losing interest too), but most people are still reading. What is making me lose interest most is the push towards selling books as hard back instead of paperback to start.. gosh, really? So now I have to spend like $25 to keep up? Whatever.

Curious. I've Been paying $11 bucks for all of my HH books. Vulkan Lives and an Unremembered Empire were both quite good.

Even in Hard back? The only store I can go to to get the books is the GW, and they only sell the hardback novel, and it's expensive as heck. I haven't been dowlnoading the eBooks, but that's probably what I'll have to switch to since Hardbacks are the only things published anymore.. followed MONTHS later by the paperback.

Curious. Sounds like typical publishing.

 Grey Templar wrote:

Not like we can have a giant "holycrapIdidn'tseethatcomingatallOMGWTFBBQ$*%^#*%&#@$@..." thing to end with.

Sure we can.

Did the Emperor cause/allow the Horus Heresy on purpose?

Does the Emperor actually WANT to be on the Golden Throne? Or is it holding him back from becoming a true god? Or both? And why?

Did Horus really repent at the end like the Imperium said he did, or did he just die due to overconfidence like Chaos said he did? Or both? Did he have an alternate agenda from Chaos like some books seem to hint?

Then there are some individual character stories people might be interested in that are linked to the end of the heresy, like:

What's Alpharius trying to do about the Horus Heresy anyways? He and Omegaron seem to have a different agenda from the Cabal. They seem to have a different agenda from each other, even.

What bout Olonius Pious? Now that he's revealed to be a perpetual, what's his role?

And maybe some specifics about the various primarchs.

TiamatRoar wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

Not like we can have a giant "holycrapIdidn'tseethatcomingatallOMGWTFBBQ$*%^#*%&#@$@..." thing to end with.

Sure we can.

Did the Emperor cause/allow the Horus Heresy on purpose?

Does the Emperor actually WANT to be on the Golden Throne? Or is it holding him back from becoming a true god? Or both? And why?

Did Horus really repent at the end like the Imperium said he did, or did he just die due to overconfidence like Chaos said he did? Or both? Did he have an alternate agenda from Chaos like some books seem to hint?

Then there are some individual character stories people might be interested in that are linked to the end of the heresy, like:

What's Alpharius trying to do about the Horus Heresy anyways? He and Omegaron seem to have a different agenda from the Cabal. They seem to have a different agenda from each other, even.

What bout Olonius Pious? Now that he's revealed to be a perpetual, what's his role?

And maybe some specifics about the various primarchs.

Better yet, who lowered the shield on the Vengeful Spirit. Was it Horus wanting to get a better look, or as I expect, Little Horus trying to atone for Isstavan and beyond?

^ Now that would be an interesting twist...

But yeah, I only pick up the occasional HH book now - There's no point in me reading about the DA or the Alpha Legion, for instance, because frankly, I don't care.
I don't see it ending anytime soon, though.

Yea, too many Horus Heresy books exist now just for no real reason, or to raise up questions no one asked for. For example, (spoiler for Vulcan Lives)

Being that perpetuals regenerate from death in a fairly short time frame I don't know why they just didn't let the emperor die so he could come back.

Seems a bit odd to me!

I quite enjoy the horus heresy series, sure it's massive now book wise, but I like it as the writers are given a lot of time/pages to explore the Primarch/key characters and develop their characteristics, take Kharn for example, he's known as a madman, but yet in Betrayer and I've never thought this about him due to current fluff

However I do not enjoy this ridiculous "limited edition X amount copies" stuff, I am not forking out 30 quid for a 100 page short story in hardback which then sells for 60 quid on ebay. Also This schedule release of hardback then paper back 4/5 months later is extremely annoying, I do not want to wait ages for the paperbacks and I'm not going to rebuy every single book in hardback, they're all staying as paper backs, I'm somewhat anal over that

So buy the digital copies.

 tomball0706 wrote:
I quite enjoy the horus heresy series, sure it's massive now book wise, but I like it as the writers are given a lot of time/pages to explore the Primarch/key characters and develop their characteristics, take Kharn for example, he's known as a madman, but yet in Betrayer

Spoiler:

he's shown as a calm and collected tactician who gets infuriated by his own legions short comings due to the nails, and he tries to resist them until they are needed

and I've never thought this about him due to current fluff

However I do not enjoy this ridiculous "limited edition X amount copies" stuff, I am not forking out 30 quid for a 100 page short story in hardback which then sells for 60 quid on ebay. Also This schedule release of hardback then paper back 4/5 months later is extremely annoying, I do not want to wait ages for the paperbacks and I'm not going to rebuy every single book in hardback, they're all staying as paper backs, I'm somewhat anal over that

Which GW writer are you again?

I think the perpetuals issue is something that might seem pointless but I'm convinced that it's building to something, something big. I suspect it's something related to the nature of the emperor that will forever change how we see him

Not unti money grubbers can milk fanboyz with primarch fights and events which are totally irrelevant to the setting...

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:

 tomball0706 wrote:
I quite enjoy the horus heresy series, sure it's massive now book wise, but I like it as the writers are given a lot of time/pages to explore the Primarch/key characters and develop their characteristics, take Kharn for example, he's known as a madman, but yet in Betrayer

Spoiler:

he's shown as a calm and collected tactician who gets infuriated by his own legions short comings due to the nails, and he tries to resist them until they are needed

and I've never thought this about him due to current fluff

However I do not enjoy this ridiculous "limited edition X amount copies" stuff, I am not forking out 30 quid for a 100 page short story in hardback which then sells for 60 quid on ebay. Also This schedule release of hardback then paper back 4/5 months later is extremely annoying, I do not want to wait ages for the paperbacks and I'm not going to rebuy every single book in hardback, they're all staying as paper backs, I'm somewhat anal over that

Which GW writer are you again?

aha, none unfortunately, I can't write fluff to save my life!

It will keep on forever until people stop reading the books.

They are not advancing the story, and most of the new stuff is either completely new (and not particularly interesting) or, even worse, rewrites the original stuff (with something far, far worse).

In the last book, Unremembered Empire, we have about a dozen legions and half a dozen primarchs fighting each other. They are ignoring the timeline (the warp did it!), having big fights that we already know are of no consequence, adding new details that contradicts all previous background, and And then what?

It is becoming cheap fiction. The "Collected Vissions" were epic.

 chromedog wrote:
The HH is 40k's M*A*S*H.


A saga that will go on for far longer than the actual events portrayed did. When it does end, though, it should be seen as a mercy killing.

QFT.

At this point its starting to get ridiculus with the amount of books being published.

But then again GW and reason dont go together too often lately.

I'm expecting a comic book style time travel reboot/retcon ala Crisis on Infinite Earths, Identity Crisis or new 52.

I don't recall which book I think Argel Tal touched one of the unknown primarchs capsule. Some sort of BS event that could be used to change something of mid level importance which of course changes everything.

That's a whole lot of new stories to sell us.

 DarthMarko wrote:
Not unti money grubbers can milk fanboyz with primarch fights and events which are totally irrelevant to the setting...

It'd be nice if a thread on dakka could discuss something to do with Games Workshop without slagging off our fellow hobbyists.

Actually, I'd like to hear from people who're still "following" the Horus Heresy series. What's satisfying about it? Do you think it's 'building up' to something?

 cincydooley wrote:
Curious. I've Been paying $11 bucks for all of my HH books. Vulkan Lives and an Unremembered Empire were both quite good.

Vulcan Lives was terrible.