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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 03:46:57
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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2 Librarian w/ Unleash Rage and Shield of Sanguinius – 325 (1 has a jump pack)
2 sang priests w/ jump pack and power weapons- 180
10 man Tac Squad w/ Missile Launcher and Plasma Gun- 185
10 man Tac Squad w/ Lascannon and plasma gun- 190
10 man assault squad w/ Sgt. w/ power weapon and combat shield- 210
10 man assault squad w/ Sgt. w/ power weapon- 205
1x 5 man Sternguard squad/ combi meltas in drop pod- 185
5 man Devastator w/ 4 lascannons- 190
5 man Devastator w/ 4 Missile Launchers- 130
Storm Raven gunship w/TL MM and LC – 200
so if I took this list to a tournament, how do you guys think I would fair?
thoughts and any recommendations?
one Sgt. has a combat shield because I had 5 points to spare. halp?
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 03:55:33
Subject: Re:2k BA army, rate please
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Not a fan personally. Too much extra stuff - not enough of the right upgrades.
The Devs are gonna be out gunned at 2k REALLY easily. They can go.
Try a 10 man Sternguard squad with 6 Combi-Meltas and 4 Combi-Plas. Its amazing.
On the ASM squads, its either 2 Flamers + PF or 2 Meltas. Nothing else.
Also, try to fit Mephiston in. He's a beast at the 1850 - 2000 point range if you can direct him to the correct targets.
At a competitive 2k tournament you'll probably see the 4 Riptide list, the 8 Heldrake list, and the Seer Council. Sadly, Blood Angels have very slim chances vs any of these armies.
Hope this helps.
Lucarikx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 04:05:47
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Thanks for the input! I like mephy I was just wanting to get preffered enemy on my units for rerollabe ones. (yay for casting unleash rage on 4 units! as long as the tests go off) yeah I won't be able to take on helldrakes spams I am accepting to that. tau scare me but I feel better about them than the space turkeys. if I give the PF to the assault sarges they get challenged out and killed w/out doing anything... not worth it imo. I can fit the flamers in though. I mean I love the damage a PF can do, but on a model with 1 W and only a 3+ armor thats expensive and risky imo. If I drop the dev squads I lose a good bit of fire power against vehicles. I think I would use them to grab another sternguard unit to drop in. and possibly shift some points around for a furioso or libby furioso. hmm.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/10/22 04:06:14
Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 04:08:04
Subject: Re:2k BA army, rate please
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Be careful with any type of Dread. They tend to die the turn after they come on, if not when the come on.
Lucarikx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 04:22:16
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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what about this, I changed a few things, dropped the dev squads. Mephiston- 250 2 Sanguinary Priests w/ power axe and jump packs - 180 10 man tac squad w/ plasma gun and missile launcher- 180 10 man tac squad w/ plasma gun and missile launcher- 180 10 man assault squad w/ 2 flamers Sgt Power fist- 225 10 man assault squad w/ 2 Meltas Sgt. With power maul- 225 5 man Sternguard w/ 5 combi meltas and drop pod-185 5 man Sternguard w/ 5 combi meltas and drop pod- 185 Storm Raven gunship w/ TL MM and TL LC and side sponson hurricane bolters- 230 1 Baal predator w/ flamestorm cannon dozer blade and side sponson heavy flamers and extra armor- 160 assault squad 1 will be infantry killers, the second with the PF will look for vehicles to pillage. Baal pred wants to get up close fast and flamestorm some infantry. Do you think I put to many upgrades on it??
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/10/22 04:37:30
Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 04:30:33
Subject: Re:2k BA army, rate please
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Looks good, but the Baal is really out of place. No armor saturation means that thing goes poof turn 1.
That 160 should go to filling out the Sternguard.
For the ASM squads, the Sergeant upgrades should be the other way around. PF on the flamer unit so it doesn't get stuck in with something tougher than their guns can handle like Rifleman Dreads or Warwalkers. The Melta squad doesn't really need a power weapon - that unit should be popping Land Raiders, Ghost Arks, Wave Serpents - whatever. It should leave engaging the squads inside to the Flamer unit.
Lucarikx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 04:41:19
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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swapped the squads. gave the melta team a power maul for the +2 str on vehicles if/when I assault. its no power fist, but gets the job done on most things I think. I like the baal due to the HEAVY anti infantry it brings but I do worry about it being popped due to concentrated fire. :/ though It might can do some good damage whenever I manage to go first! lol. sternguard are too expensive for 160 to really make an impact on the squads that is about 5ish more models and that is it :/ I suppose I COULD drop the baal for a dread in a pod so I could drop both stern guards turn one.. hm
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/10/22 04:43:41
Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 09:20:06
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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The advantage your first list had was that with no av, the opponents AT was being 'wasted' on marines. With a Baal in there you threw that advantage right out the window. Our 10 man sternguard unit with combi-weapons is 30points cheaper than the c:sm equivalent... im sure that is the ONLY equivalent unit we get cheaper than them (the caps isnt for you, its just for the fact that im majorly p****d that vanilla practically get everything cheaper than us, in some cases miles cheaper - oh we do get attack bikes cheaper too).
Make that sternguard into 1 unit, combat squad them on the drop, saving you 35pts and meaning all 10 come in 1st turn.
Dropping the pod, the baal and the hurricanes will afford you another 10man assault squad with either 2 flamers and pf or 2 melta and power weapon. Then you have even more marine saturation to dilute the effectiveness of the enemies AT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 15:02:10
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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can you drop 9 sternguard + a priest then combat squad them?
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 17:05:22
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, I'd drop the Devs. Long range shooting is overrated due to cover almost everywhere.
Instead, I'd take to Honor Guard units (with jump packs), with 4 special weapons, like 4 plasma guns or 2 meltas and 2 flamers. As a bonus, they come with a built-in chalice.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/10/22 17:05:57
Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 17:11:28
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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that's right I had forgotten the honor guard. the jump packs are sorta expensive though  that's what~200 points in them with 4 plasma guns?
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 17:18:32
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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raiden wrote:that's right I had forgotten the honor guard. the jump packs are sorta expensive though  that's what~200 points in them with 4 plasma guns?
Yeah, that's 200 pts or so. But they can dish out serious damage upon arrival and have FNP. By the way, my Libbies (with jump packs) usually have shield and blood lance.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 17:30:27
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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I prefer the unleashed rage, so I can reroll all ones to hit and wound. it can save bad luck on the plasma guns. the cover save would be usefull for my assault squads unless its tau. does the SoS cover save stack with others?
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/22 17:39:09
Subject: 2k BA army, rate please
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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raiden wrote:I prefer the unleashed rage, so I can reroll all ones to hit and wound. it can save bad luck on the plasma guns. the cover save would be usefull for my assault squads unless its tau. does the SoS cover save stack with others?
Well, indeed, I think it stacks with stealth or shrouding since both give a bonus.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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