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 whitehorn wrote:
I know I'm butting into the middle of a discusion here, but only one discusion thread does that.

Is anyone else disappointed about kronos one using the same model as the D7? Just seems a real shame that in the first wave we get a repeated model.
I have no doubt that as long as this game is supported for long enough we will have to see a lot of repeats, a lot of races ships are very similar between some classes, its always going to happen. In the first wave and with only 4 Klingon ships currently avaliable, though? Felt a little cheated when I got the model in the flesh and couldn't see any differences.

Are they using the same sculpts from the Star Trek Tactics Heroclix game? I haven't heard of any new sculpts.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
So far, we've been running smoothly at my LGS, although, we just finished Month 2, and only 3 people showed up.. :/

On an off-topic note, anyone know where I can reliably watch Star Trek DS9 episodes without having to have a subscription?

EDIT: So, anyone remember my ordeal with the crooked Apnex model???

Got the replacement today, same issue, I know they have models without crooked bridges, I've seen them...

There are a lot of Star Trek Tactics minis that are just borked. Besides the Apnex, the Enterprise-A is almost always screwed up. I have 4 or 5 of them, and not one that doesn't make me wince. I'm going to try hot water on them, because cutting and re-gluing didn't really work. The Nebula class always has problems, too. I think some of the minis are just too complicated to expect decent results from poorly-paid laborers who don't give a crap.

Let me know how your issue goes. I had to go through quite a bit of email and riposte with the customer service department before my minis were replaced, and most of the replacements had the same (or worse!) issues. They told me (I'm paraphrasing here) they more or less thought of the minis as game pieces only and were surprised that anyone gave a damn if the minis looked like chewed bubble gum. They seem to have only had experience with boardgamers, but for $15 per miniature I bet they'll start to get a lot more flack for their attitude towards wargamers.

Do you mean the refit constitution? The non-refit is not included in Fleet Captains. And the refit Connie is one of the worst minis for quality control failures. It's the exact same model from the Star Trek tactics line, just unpainted.

If you just want a good Constitution class ship, I recommend this model kit. The connie is about twice as long as the Fleet Captains version, but should still fit on the same stand and not look too out of place considering the uneven scale and large 'hero' ships.

Well, there's this kit.

Or you can get the tactics version. The Reliant does seem to be one of the better minis for quality in the Tactics/Fleet Captains line.

Now I'm curious which one you're going with.

If you really have trouble, I do have an "extra" unpainted Fleet Captains version just waiting for a trade away.

Wouldn't they just repaint the models a darker color and add the dagger emblem?


What I really want to see is an Akira class ship.

I love their Saber. The Sovereign and Defiant are also great. Too bad the Prometheus is severely under-detailed and the Nebula is even more crooked than the Constitution refit. Yes, I am just in it for the models.

It's funny that you mention the Clix/Attack Wing version of the Excelsior. It's the one model most likely to make Bernd Schneider's head explode: the saucer is more oval than circle, the proportions are really strange in the engineering section, the details on the impulse and engineering sections seem to have come from nowhere, and the shuttle bay looks like it has an aeroshuttle parked on it for no reason that I can discern.

I actually think it looks really awesome! It's like a post-First Contact-style refit of an Excelsior.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
Actually, I looked at the Excelsior model in the shop yesterday, it looks fine to me, lol. looks like it's a new sculpt.

Compare this:



to this:



And for the record, I prefer the funky Clix version over the canon (yet unattractive) version. My point is just that the Clix minis sometime make bizarre departures from the actual ships they're modeled after.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
Yeah, I noticed the change in the ships today, I like the canon version better, lol.

The overwhelming majority of people do prefer the canon version. Makes me wonder why they decided to 'improve' it.

I myself would prefer to know that Wizkids can stick to canon on a model--as a frequent visitor to Ex Astris Scientia, I really notice when they get things wrong. (Even if they produce an eventual happy accident, it's still an accident.)


By the way, have you seen the Vorcha? Looks like the sculptor was watching TNG with his TV ratio off.

I think the clix Vor'cha is the same. That thing's pincers could almost eat my Micromachines Vor'cha's head, and the two minis are nearly the same size.

The unpainted Negh'Var's wings are translucent. Love the model, but it feels incredibly flimsy.

Fortunately, the Valdore looks pretty close to the CGI. I kind of hope they do a Scimitar and just call it a Romulan Dreadnought ...bird... or something.

Paint it as the ISS Enterprise refit, then?

I am right there with you, Plaguelord. Akira is at the top of my list, followed by the Scimitar, Steamrunner, Dauntless and Norway. I'd love to see how they do V'Ger, just for poops and giggles. If they released some of the apocryphal ships, like the Aventine, Titan or Merian classes, I would be ecstatic.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
So, there was a review of the game on SpikeyBits today...

I couldn't be more insulted...

I think that was less a review than an attempted comedy "trash-talk" piece. Poor guy just comes across as an ignoramus, though.

Deathwing Crusader, I love your fleet! It looks awesome! I wonder however, how you model the difference between a K'Voort and a B'rel?


Also, there's a Star Trek Tactics version of one of those background ships from TNG that was used for everything, which should work great as a Klingon transport/tender/freighter with just a quick repaint.

Is the B'Rel model different from the K'Voort? Is the difference just on the cards? I only have Tactics stuff so far, so I don't get how you tell the difference.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:

emperorpenguin wrote:
Yeah Somraw was on the list.

For the Enterprise-B you can always use Excelsior!
I'm more miffed at still no Enterprise-C, such a long wait for Enterprise-E, no Constellation class, no retail Nebula class etc.....

Well, to be fair, the Nebula class isn't really a combat vehicle, it didn't even really see heavy deployment in the dominion war. The only ships we really saw in large engagements were Akira, Excelsior, Saber, Miranda, and Galaxy Classes.

Either way, I was hoping for more Klingon ships this next year, oh well...

Didn't a lone Nebula clean up against the Cardassians in the TNG episode The Wounded? Also, they must have appeared in the Dominion War...Ex Astris noted 3 different models (1 physical and two CGI?) of the Nebukla from battle and patrol shots. Besides, the Nebula is my favorite. :(

But you bring up a good point about the disappointing lack of Akira and Ambassador classes.

What are the odds of seeing the All Good Things ships, like the 3-nacelled Enterprise or the Klingon 'Voodieh' class?


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 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:

emperorpenguin wrote:
Regardless of how many Galors it destroyed, it did do so, so not quite sure why you think it's some kind of science ship?

If we're going on track records of surviving battles, that'd make the D'deridex a disaster!

Umm, I said it wasn't a dedicated combat vehicle, I didn't say it was a mere science ship, you're putting words in my mouth.

Not sure why you care so much?

The Federation officially has only one class of dedicated combat vessel in production. Every other class of ship is 'just' an explorer, even if some of them are designed to explore the insides of whole enemy fleets.

emperorpenguin wrote:
http://www.universaldist.com/images/document/STAW%20Wave%209%20Quick%20Solicit.pdf

Pics of the October releases for this year - another Defiant but two new sculpts 'wings-up' Bird of Prey and the Scimitar

Oh man, I am really going to have to get into this game big time. And all my friends. Are there any youtube videos that demonstrate the game and teach noobs the basics of how to play?

Thanks for the links, guys! Now, if only I can convince my wife...


@PlagueLord,

We can always discuss the quality of the models and paint jobs..?

That looks awesome. How well does the Martha Stewart gloss compare to GW gloss varnish? Does it work well with acrylic paint?

There's a Gorn ship now?? EWill it be available for retail purchase or is it just a promo?

Also, what other non-Star Trek Tactics ships have come out? Is the Scimitar out yet?

Thank you for the responses!

Is the Hideki available already?

Is there a place that has a comprehensive list of all the ships released so far and those soon to be released?

Thank you. I cannot wait for November.

I tend to side with mean green stompa on this one. I care about the ships more than any game.

However, I would love to have one of the sideways bridged ships just for giggles. I have some unpainted fleet captains K'tingas, and I will trade one or two of them for the same number of sideways bridged battle cruisers if anyone wants. Just send me a PM.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
So, this is a bit off-topic, what does everyone think about the upcoming indie film "Star Trek: Axanar?"

They've got a kickstarter page ending in a little under 14 hours.

It's the best Star Trek since DS9 went off the air. If they only produced Prelude to Axanar, I would be satisfied, but they might give us a whole film, which is crazy. And it looks so beautiful!

The film is sure to create interest in certain scenarios. I wonder what the Ares, Ajax and D6s would look like as models. I want those ships... Does anyone know if FASA still makes them, or whether Wizkids might have the rights to them through CBS?

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
So, thinking about converting my own U.S.S Ares (Ares Class) but... I really don't wanna use the Tiny-prise as a base, plus, I don't wanna go buy another tiny-prise...lol.

Any suggestions that are..cost effective?

for the price of one tinyprise.


I made these guys years ago, but I remember the kit being very easy to work with.

Oh. I misinterpreted your use of 'tinyprise' then. I don't know any cheaper options that small, unless you can find a cheap micromachine mini. I suppose you could try to cut up an oberth mini to have a small saucer, remove the nacelles and replace them with tubes/nx nacelles, then shave down and reposition the engineering hull... Or tinyprise.

It's a shame they stopped selling those micromachines keychains. I got a JJprise for $2 back in 2010 or so, as well as a TOS D7.

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