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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 04:17:38
Subject: grav guns or melta guns?
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Running a bike army. What do you guys think the better weapon Is? Why? I feel melta still compete with the grab guns due to armor pen and cost. But I am a bit biased towards melta haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 04:32:42
Subject: Re:grav guns or melta guns?
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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Sorry but there is no right or wrong answer here.
Bikes are great platforms for both of these weapons, and it ultimately comes down to what your meta is, and what makes up the rest of your army.
Melta are cheaper, great at close range vs almost all vehicles (ceramite plated ones aside) and are also useful vs T4 multi-wound models.
Grav has a great damage potential against the right targets (3+/2+ saves), a longer range, is an effective counter to MCs with high armour (Wraithknight, riptides, Dreadknights) and is also better than the meltagun vs AV 14 when outside of 6 range.
Just take whatever fills the gaps left by the rest of the army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 05:07:45
Subject: Re:grav guns or melta guns?
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
TX, US
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With bikes being relentless, you get to fire your salve weapons (i.e., grav guns) at full range and maximum effect while on the move. Though slightly more expensive than meltaguns, they are probably a better use of points due to the added weight of fire coming from two grav guns as opposed to two meltaguns. As Big Blind Bill noted, both weapons have their advantages, melta being a sure bet against high-AV mech, while grav works well against MCs (which generally have 2+/3+ saves).
Though the points add up quickly, I like to take full bike squads with two grav guns and a multimelta attack bike for the flexibility it gives me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 05:11:38
Subject: Re:grav guns or melta guns?
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Societal Outcast
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Both are awesome on bikes, I use both, always equal amount of grav squads as melta squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 05:22:13
Subject: grav guns or melta guns?
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Executing Exarch
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I tend to take a few other units in my armies that use melta (attack bikes, stormraven, legion of the damned, 1 5 man TAC squad, etc.) so I have been tending more toward grav. Plus I am somewhat burned out on the melta as that is what I run in ravenwing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 05:30:32
Subject: grav guns or melta guns?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Take grav for specials and add MM attack bike to the squad for melta.
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Hail the Emperor. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 08:35:13
Subject: grav guns or melta guns?
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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No right choice here. I say combi-Melta on the Sarge, along with Melta bombs and a Power Axe, then 2 Grav guns.
Grav guns replace Plasma guns in a bike army. Melta deals with things a Grav gun is not good at dealing with. This means you have to tailor your squads or load out the Sarge like I suggested.
I feel the real debate is what Combi weapon or Pistol to put on the Sarge..
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Been playing 40k on and off since 89.
Armies...
Orks, Eldar, Lamentors, Pre-Heresy EC, CSM EC, and IG. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 11:43:54
Subject: grav guns or melta guns?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Grav all the way. Its a matter of numbers. Grav weapons have 300% the firepower vs most targets. This means that with one squad of grav guns you can do as much damage as 3 squads when shooting at targets like riptides.
Melta is better vs armor at close range. If you need to bring that element, use MM attack bikes or melta bombs. They will get you the same effect as MGs and still let you bring massive grav force.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 13:54:13
Subject: Re:grav guns or melta guns?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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And here is the winner right here. The two weapons serve vastly different purposes after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 15:31:11
Subject: Re:grav guns or melta guns?
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Take both, you need them for different situation.
Take 2 grarv squads for each melta squad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 15:34:37
Subject: grav guns or melta guns?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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This. Salvo on relentless bikes is too good to pass up. So is a relentless MM that can get Scout. Melta has too short of a range for the Mobile Bikes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/10/31 20:17:02
Subject: grav guns or melta guns?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Melta can go on infantry, Stormravens, etc. I wouldn't pass on the salvo/relentless synergy.
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