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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 08:08:11
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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How would you guys rate this list on a scale of 1 to 10.
1 = Non-competitive play, gaks and giggles
10 = Tournament winning, game breaking
Note: Not interested in list editing/advicing. Just opinions and evalutations (rating) on strengths and weaknesses
1999 Pts - Blood Angels Roster - Descent of Angels
HQ:
1 Librarian in Power Armour, 125 pts (Jump Pack; Force Sword; Warlord)
Elite:
4 Terminator with Lightning Claws, 200 pts
1 Sergeant with Lightning Claws
3 Sanguinary Priest in Power Armour, 240 pts (Jump Pack; Melta Bombs)
Troops:
7 Assault Marines, 240 pts
1 Assault Marine with Meltagun
1 Assault Marine with Meltagun
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1)
7 Assault Marines, 240 pts
1 Assault Marine with Meltagun
1 Assault Marine with Meltagun
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1)
7 Assault Marines, 240 pts
1 Assault Marine with Meltagun
1 Assault Marine with Meltagun
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1)
Fast Attack:
1 Sergeant (Jump Pack; Melta Bombs), 350 pts (Equip with Jump Packs)
2 Vanguard Veteran (Jump Pack; Melta Bombs; Power Fist x1; Storm Shield x1)
2 Vanguard Veteran (Jump Pack; Melta Bombs; Power Sword x1; Storm Shield x1)
Heavy Support:
1 Dreadnought, 120 pts (Twin-Linked Autocannon; Twin-Linked Autocannon)
1 Dreadnought, 120 pts (Twin-Linked Autocannon; Twin-Linked Autocannon)
1 Dreadnought, 120 pts (Twin-Linked Autocannon; Twin-Linked Autocannon)
Total Roster Cost: 1995
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2013/11/07 08:36:41
1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 09:48:26
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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It's cool and can win you some games but don't expect too much from it... (I'd rare it as a 6 maybe?)
First of all, Terminators. If you're footslogging them, you WILL need at least a couple of TH/SS combos. 3 TH/SS + 2 LC's is a good solution.
Priests: make those 2 attacks base and WS5 count. Give them PW's.
Vanguard Vets are not that great and should be kept relatively cheap. Maybe give up on the SS's on swordsmen? A small squads need their attacks. Or leave one Dreadnought at home.
Speaking of which, Fragioso is a great First Blooder in a DP. Concider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 14:25:02
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Thanks but not looking for suggesitons just review/rating. I appreciate the comments
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 14:33:13
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Agile Revenant Titan
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why woundt you want help making your list better? do you not have the models?
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 15:48:57
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Vanguard are too pricey. Also assuming you deep strike the terminators they are gonna spend turn Sucking up ap1/ap2 and relying on 5+invulns to keep them alive so a couple of storm shields wouldn't go amiss. Id rate it a 4 right now but with adjustments its got the basis of a 7 or more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 16:06:45
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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ninjafiredragon wrote:why woundt you want help making your list better? do you not have the models?
Doesn't matter why, i'm simply not.
warren0110 wrote:Vanguard are too pricey. Also assuming you deep strike the terminators they are gonna spend turn Sucking up ap1/ap2 and relying on 5+invulns to keep them alive so a couple of storm shields wouldn't go amiss. Id rate it a 4 right now but with adjustments its got the basis of a 7 or more
Thanks for the review.
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 22:25:48
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Agile Revenant Titan
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warren0110 wrote:Vanguard are too pricey. Also assuming you deep strike the terminators they are gonna spend turn Sucking up ap1/ap2 and relying on 5+invulns to keep them alive so a couple of storm shields wouldn't go amiss. Id rate it a 4 right now but with adjustments its got the basis of a 7 or more
yes dont bother giving advise because apparently this guy doesnt want any way to make his list better.
makes no since, but its his choice.
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 22:39:19
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Agile Revenant Titan
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You should see his BL list! Makes this one already look like a 7!
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You sought to cower behind your walls, weakling? Instead, by the will of Khorne, you shall die behind them |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/06 22:55:57
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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terminators are weak with BA for one reason. speed, speed is the BA best friend. think about getting a libby naught, possibly drop the vanguard for a sternguad w/ corbulo and I think you may make a 7. as it stands atm. 5-6.
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Wyzilla wrote:
Because Plague Marines have the evasion abilities of a drunk elephant.
Burn the Heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the Unclean |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 01:23:27
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Eh, I'd rate it a 2 or so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 06:55:15
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Stalker much?
Any how thanks to everyone else who answered the thread properly. Seems this theme is regarded slightly stronger than some of the others
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 07:05:14
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
where the wind comes sweeping down the plains
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2-3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 07:59:26
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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Pretty good but:
1. I would drop the Vanguards for some sternguard in a drop pod, maybe 2 meltas but don't put powerfists.
2. If your guys have power fists theres not a huge point in having melta bombs.
3. I would switch the Autocannon dreads and give them some more close up shooting and combat. Maybe a assault cannon and a flamer fist.
With a few tweaks you can make this list some much better, but its a good start. Make sure you've got some Anti Tank and Anti Horde and Anti Termies.
EDIT: 6/10
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 08:25:18
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Before I rate this army it would be good for you to explain how you plan to use it?
My best guess:
I guess the single non JP priest is going with the terminators which means they are walking. (Will be lucky to see combat)
The Libby is prob with the vets which I understand will buff there CC making the small number work. (Glass hammer imo if they don't kill on the charge they will prob get stuck or swept)
The dreads are there I guess for AA and ranged support. (Possible first blood targets positooning is key but I'm all for autocannon dreads shame that mortis dreads are DA only)
Rating with the way I think you will use this army depends on what your meta is.
Casual meta 6/10
Comp meta 2/10
It a great attempt at a BA list shame BA is tough codex to make competitive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 08:32:52
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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I edited the list to make it easier to understand, AB output seemed to be confusing a lot of people, hopefully now it'll be clearer.
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 16:09:15
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
London
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I'd give it a 5.75 / 10.00
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 20:32:01
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Hq - perfect.
3 assault squads all with melta - strong (would probs be ok with just 2 priests covering the 30).
Termis - weak (need upgrades to th/ss and transport, deepstrike is pants for them, atm they have no synergy with the list).
Dakka dreads - weak (every other dread in the dex is far better, 360pts for 12 autocannon shot on fragile walkers is a lot of points that will dissapear quickly, if you want an autocannon spam, take guard allies for added durability and more firepower).
Vanguard - weak (massively overcosted, i'd just stay away from them).
You have a good backbone but the rest of the units are overcosted picks or have no synergy with the rest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/07 23:21:19
Subject: Re:[Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
Pacific NW
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A 3 or a 4, leaning towards 3. The Power Fists on Sergeants are bad in my opinion. Power Weapons are cheaper and get the job done. Anything you need a Power Fist against you don't want your Sergeant facing anymore. Hurray Challenges... I'd stick with Power Swords and Meltabombs on the Sergeants instead. Again, only 30 troops at 2000 points is risky. At least these ones are mobile and have FNP. And you spent too many points on your Vanguard Veterans. You need to keep them cheap and cheerful. I wouldn't include Meltabombs on them, since that's not what you want to use them for. They are a throw away unit. And most importantly: Hopefully your three Dreadnoughts will survive your first turn. If not, you will lose the game at the end of your turn if you are going full on DoA.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/08 05:30:38
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Thanks for the rate and review
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/08 16:38:45
Subject: [Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Lord of the Fleet
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I'd recommend dropping the Vanguard completly, or if you insist on having them, just give them Melta Bombs, so they can DS, assault straight away, and hopefully dispose of a vehicle in the process.
You want TH/SS your Termies, at least 3:2 ratio to TH/LC is good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/08 18:21:54
Subject: Re:[Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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I'd give it a 4, too few troops. Everything else seems solid, though the termies seem out of place.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 10:49:44
Subject: Re:[Rate] Blood Angels - 1,999 pts
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Infiltrating Broodlord
New York
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Thanks for the rate and review
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1. Tyranids - 15,000 pts
2. Chaos Space Marines - 7,100 pts
3. Space Marines - 6,000 pts
4. Orks - 5,900 pts
5. Dark Angels - 4,300 pts
6. Necrons - 4,600 pts
7. Grey Knights - 3,200 pts
8. Eldar - 3,400 pts
9. Blood Angels - 3,200 pts
10. Chaos Daemons - 3,200 pts
11. Tau Empire - 3,000 pts
12. Space Wolves - 2,400 pts |
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