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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 05:57:55
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
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For 40k fans how much you guys think a lasgun should cost in the 40k world
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 07:22:14
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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How much does the life of an underhive scavenger worth? Now multiply the value in U.S. Dollars and multiply by 10.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 07:40:33
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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lcmiracle wrote:How much does the life of an underhive scavenger worth? Now multiply the value in U.S. Dollars and multiply by 10.
After a quick calculation:
$0.10.
Because I factored in the GRIMDARK.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 10:21:43
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle
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How much dose a Kalashnikov cost? The Lasgun is the 40k version of it and is based on it. Cheap, reliable, easy to make anywhere with basic manufacturing tools, easy to maintain.
The answer, depends on the variant and who has made it. Cheap versions from backwater worlds for the lasgun, or former soviet states and central African rebels (in the case of the AK47), are dirt cheap. A new AK-100 for militery use or one of the civilian AK's available in various countries, or a Accatran pattern Las gun or one owned by a sector governor for hunting is going to be significantly more expensive.
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insaniak wrote:Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 10:34:14
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Been Around the Block
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Considering how cheap manual labour is in 40k, I'd imagine that 95% of the lasgun's price is raw materials used to make it.
Which is probably dirt cheap. Even cheaper than today's cheapest ak-47.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 13:35:17
Subject: Re:How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Would be worth it to have ammo that you can just plug in to reload.
Hunting and not having to worry about digging out the bullet would also be an advantage. Along that line, currently, you can match bullets fired from guns to tell the exact gun that fired a bullet in a murder if your able to get the gun in question to fire another shot with and compare the bullets. Methinks would be harder to do that just looking at little burned holes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 17:31:35
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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About $120 US. Which is *DIRT CHEAP* for a military-grade weapon.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 17:33:00
Subject: Re:How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Depends entirely on where in the Imperium you are.
Deep in an underhive a functioning lasgun would probably be worth quite a bit. A gun that doesn't require anything more than some time on a charge station to get more ammo will be quite valuable, while a weapon you need to purchase ammo for will be worth less(unless it has additional qualities)
I imagine it could go for a few hundred dollar equivalents.
Now on a wealthier world, a lasgun would probably be dirt cheap as far as weapons go.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 17:37:55
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Selym wrote: lcmiracle wrote:How much does the life of an underhive scavenger worth? Now multiply the value in U.S. Dollars and multiply by 10.
After a quick calculation:
$0.10.
Because I factored in the GRIMDARK.
Something must of gone wrong as 0*X*10=0
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 20:50:38
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
Somewhere over the rainbow, way up high
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About Tree-Fiddy.
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Bedouin Dynasty: 10000 pts
The Silver Lances: 4000 pts
The Custodes Winter Watch 4000 pts
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Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:00:21
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Terrifying Doombull
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I imagien around 20 dollars? Because its sucha widespread weapon, no real high tech and no need for a constant supply of ammonution.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:32:54
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Regular Dakkanaut
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For a civilian? Probably quite a lot since you probably have to use the black market. I doubt you can just go to the local Skullmart and just buy one since the people in charge probably don't want an armed population.
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The Tick: Everybody was a baby once, Arthur. Oh, sure, maybe not today, or even yesterday. But once. Babies, chum: tiny, dimpled, fleshy mirrors of our us-ness, that we parents hurl into the future, like leathery footballs of hope. And you've got to get a good spiral on that baby, or evil will make an interception. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:48:06
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I expect that the street value on an underhive is roughly three stab wounds and a bucket of blood.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 21:50:19
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Lieutenant Colonel
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actually gun ownership is quite common in the imperium for things like auto guns and las guns of the more basic variates.
that its mentioned so often of regular joes having basic arms leads to to believe it wouldnt usually be unaffordable.
would likey cost a few days or weeks pay if you are well off, whatever that is in 40k land
would vary planet to planet too, depending on local economies and so on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 23:06:04
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Much more than a guardsman, less than a tank.
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/21 23:19:47
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Depends. What class/ world you're on, what pattern of lasgun it is...
Of course it's $17 if you're a ganger
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 00:24:29
Subject: Re:How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I'm thinking the OP, was asking about how much in U.S. dollars as though it were a weapon available to us in real life now. I would say a pretty penny. The fact of not needing ammot would drive it up a lot and the lack of forensic tracking of victims would make it valuable on the black market as well. Especially so if we also had the las pistols to go with the las rifles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/22 01:07:38
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Oh, if we were talking about having it appear in front of us, right now in 2013, it would be *priceless*. Such an item would advance human understanding of portable energy, direct-energy weapons, advanced polymers and plastics, advanced lens-construction and ballistic systems to an unfathomable degree.
Hell, the power-pack alone would advance battery technology beyond our wildest expectations of portable power sources available now.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/25 16:23:30
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Leader of the Sept
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Lasguns cost 25 Necromunda Creds, compared to 15 for an autogun. Is there a direct conversion from Creds to $?
Alternatively, 25 creds profit is about what you ended up with after a game of Necromunda. It never specifrically stated what time period that was over, but one or 2 fights a week (or even a month) seems reasonable, given the time required for your gangers to rest up and heal after a fight.
So a lasgun is maybe a weeks worth of work for a reasonably well off gang in the underhive. Does anyone know how much money street gangs make these days? This doesn't include the drug trade, because Necromunda gangs explicitly trading in illegal substances get cut off pretty damn quick
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/25 16:44:01
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Cutting off the drug trade, the average street gang does not make much. That is why they get into the drug trade, because then they make a lot.
While some gangs can get fairly well-off with a chop-shop/car theft operation, such gangs are few and far between, and usually get shut down by the authorities within the year.
So, on average, the average street gang starts in, and continues to live in, poverty, once you remove the drug trade from the equation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/25 18:22:27
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Psienesis wrote:Oh, if we were talking about having it appear in front of us, right now in 2013, it would be *priceless*. Such an item would advance human understanding of portable energy, direct-energy weapons, advanced polymers and plastics, advanced lens-construction and ballistic systems to an unfathomable degree.
Hell, the power-pack alone would advance battery technology beyond our wildest expectations of portable power sources available now.
This, a billion times this. Even flak armor would advance materials sciences such as chemistry and physics by a dramatic amount. If modern soldiers coudl be outfitted in flak armor, it'd probably double our soldiers' carry capacity due to dramatically reduced armor weight, while having superior protection. Automatically Appended Next Post: Psienesis wrote:Cutting off the drug trade, the average street gang does not make much. That is why they get into the drug trade, because then they make a lot.
While some gangs can get fairly well-off with a chop-shop/car theft operation, such gangs are few and far between, and usually get shut down by the authorities within the year.
So, on average, the average street gang starts in, and continues to live in, poverty, once you remove the drug trade from the equation.
The average gang doesn't use las weaponry either, IIRC. They use stub weaponry.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/25 20:11:37
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Drakhun
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Apparently, you can purchase an AK-47 in some African countries for a chicken.
A chicken is worth roughly 5-6 British Pounds.
So you might be able to pick up a lasgun for about 7 dollars.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/25 20:21:23
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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But is a chicken in Africa worth only 5-6 pounds? What's its perceived value (other than one AK) in that African community?
I mean, if a chicken is fairly valuable because it's several days worth of food, then it's worth a lot more than $7.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/25 20:32:46
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Drakhun
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Chickens are actually quite cheap due to their quick rate of reproduction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/25 20:40:04
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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welshhoppo wrote:Chickens are actually quite cheap due to their quick rate of reproduction.
In Europe and the US, certainly, but places in Africa tend to have drought problems, and can easily end up with what we would call sub-standard or under-developed stock.
A good chicken over there may be worth a good ten times what it is worth over here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 00:15:32
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Leader of the Sept
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Automatically Appended Next Post:
Psienesis wrote:Cutting off the drug trade, the average street gang does not make much. That is why they get into the drug trade, because then they make a lot.
While some gangs can get fairly well-off with a chop-shop/car theft operation, such gangs are few and far between, and usually get shut down by the authorities within the year.
So, on average, the average street gang starts in, and continues to live in, poverty, once you remove the drug trade from the equation.
The average gang doesn't use las weaponry either, IIRC. They use stub weaponry.
My gangs tended to have a mixture of auto and las. The poor reliabiliy of stubbers tended to put me off. The only stubbers worth taking were the heavy kind for starting gangs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 00:29:31
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Drakhun
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Selym wrote:welshhoppo wrote:Chickens are actually quite cheap due to their quick rate of reproduction.
In Europe and the US, certainly, but places in Africa tend to have drought problems, and can easily end up with what we would call sub-standard or under-developed stock.
A good chicken over there may be worth a good ten times what it is worth over here.
Good point, but ten times the value of a chicken is still only 50-60 pounds. For a reliable weapon, easy to use assault rifle with plenty of cheap ammo, it's a bargain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 00:49:54
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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That ends up being 80-100 US Dollars.... still really cheap for a military grade weapon, but much more reasonable than $7, especially if you bought them in bulk from an arms dealer, or the CIA, for $20 a pop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 01:46:21
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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well dark heresy says 100gt, so I would say around that in dollars anyways
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 15:02:29
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Not likely, the average working class person makes about 30 thrones a month, or approximately 360 a year. Average person in the working class in the USA makes about 30,000, or roughly 83-ish times as much as that. So it's probably closer to 8000 USD by that metric.
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