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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 22:00:20
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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well with current inflation rates in mind, and 38,000 years in the future. Dollars are going to be next to worthless, so I am going to say $1,000,000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 22:04:09
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Exergy wrote:well with current inflation rates in mind, and 38,000 years in the future. Dollars are going to be next to worthless, so I am going to say $1,000,000,000,000,000
Fix'd that for ya
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/26 22:21:58
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Damnit you're tempting me to start doing some calculus. Bad Exergy, BAD.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/27 14:19:06
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Selym wrote: Exergy wrote:well with current inflation rates in mind, and 38,000 years in the future. Dollars are going to be next to worthless, so I am going to say $1,000,000,000,000,000
Fix'd that for ya 
accepted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/29 22:55:35
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Considering the rate of production of Las weapons, I would probably say they'd be the equivalent of the old English boxlock shotguns in the 1920's. I.E a cheap, simple and reliable working gun. A standard Boxlock used to cost around £11.50 back in the day. I'd say that on some Imperial worlds the price would be similar for a basic run-of-the-mills rifle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/30 11:59:38
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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sierra 1247 wrote:Considering the rate of production of Las weapons, I would probably say they'd be the equivalent of the old English boxlock shotguns in the 1920's. I.E a cheap, simple and reliable working gun. A standard Boxlock used to cost around £11.50 back in the day. I'd say that on some Imperial worlds the price would be similar for a basic run-of-the-mills rifle.
So somewhere around £120 by now...
Seems fair for a lasgun (technological wonders aside).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/30 23:37:21
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Kinebrach-Knobbling Xeno Interrogator
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Thanks for the reply everyone
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 02:46:23
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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Considering that many people in the Imperium can't arm themselves, and that even hive gangers use stub weaponry instead of the far more effective and reliable las weapon.. Call it double the cost of an AK-47 if we consider this is a stubber, it's about $40 for an AK-47, so I consider the lasgun to be in the range of $80-$100 a pop, obviously the guard get it for free..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 02:57:30
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Speed Drybrushing
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Alright then Brother, you bought the farm. I'll go get you 2 chickens now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 07:48:09
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Free ... if you're a Guardsman.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 08:18:21
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Wow, ok in NZ its 2000 dollars for an AK apparently and it can at best be fired on semi auto. (fully automatic is illegal here). I must be one of the feral world representatives. 120 US Dollars! for an AK? holy crap (no offense) but there must so many armed civilians in that country haha. Here owning a gun is a bit special, and most are 22s.... and air rifles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 14:31:01
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Actually, there are fewer and fewer armed people in the US as the years go by. It's just that those that are armed tend to be buying more and more guns. The NRA is more of a marketing ploy these days, lobbying on the side. Which really makes it annoying for responsible, reasonable gun owners, whom the NRA doesn't like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 14:52:47
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Walmart ... Roll back $19.97. It is America after all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/03 16:17:54
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Some paper clips and a subway coupon.
Seriously, though, I'd price a Lasgun... $500. They are cheap and plentiful as hell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 11:13:46
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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Swastakowey wrote:Wow, ok in NZ its 2000 dollars for an AK apparently and it can at best be fired on semi auto. (fully automatic is illegal here). I must be one of the feral world representatives. 120 US Dollars! for an AK? holy crap (no offense) but there must so many armed civilians in that country haha. Here owning a gun is a bit special, and most are 22s.... and air rifles.
Yup, 2 grand only gets you a Norinco AK too *shudders*. On top of that, it'd be a Military-Style-Semi-Automatic (MSSA), so you'd need an extra endorsement on your gun licence, and a concrete strongroom to put the thing in as well.
I'd back the comparison to an AK47, they seem to have a similar "stupidly reliable standard weapon" niche.
Cost would depend on who and where you were, I guess. Are you on a world where you need to kill the local wildlife just to survive? If so, they'd be cheap. In a lovely, peaceful system? It'll cost you, there are very few guns floating around. Hive ganger? You'll need a man who knows how to get things...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 17:00:10
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Leader of the Sept
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Zed wrote: Swastakowey wrote:Wow, ok in NZ its 2000 dollars for an AK apparently and it can at best be fired on semi auto. (fully automatic is illegal here). I must be one of the feral world representatives. 120 US Dollars! for an AK? holy crap (no offense) but there must so many armed civilians in that country haha. Here owning a gun is a bit special, and most are 22s.... and air rifles.
Yup, 2 grand only gets you a Norinco AK too *shudders*. On top of that, it'd be a Military-Style-Semi-Automatic (MSSA), so you'd need an extra endorsement on your gun licence, and a concrete strongroom to put the thing in as well.
I'd back the comparison to an AK47, they seem to have a similar "stupidly reliable standard weapon" niche.
Cost would depend on who and where you were, I guess. Are you on a world where you need to kill the local wildlife just to survive? If so, they'd be cheap. In a lovely, peaceful system? It'll cost you, there are very few guns floating around. Hive ganger? You'll need a man who knows how to get things...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 19:08:58
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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An actual, legitimate AK in the US does not cost $120.
A real, honest-to-God AK-47 would a) be illegal to own or b) run several grand if it is one of the pre-ban automatic versions. While we do have a lot of guns in the US, military automatic weapons are illegal to own. However, as that is a relatively recent law (last 30 years or so), there is a small number of military weapons still in circulation, and commanding *very* high prices amongst collectors.
One such weapon is, iirc, a M134 Vulcan Minigun, a chain-driven weapon that is capable of firing 6000 7.62mm rounds per minute. The last time it changed hands, it went for over $100K.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 19:50:59
Subject: Re:How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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Too many different questions.
What is it worth?
What is its value?
In the real world?
Its value as a weapon would be comparable to an assault rifle, but it never needs ammo which is a huge bonus actually. So you can use that as a metric I guess.
Its value as a piece of technology would be massive. Seriously if you somehow got your hands on a lasgun and only used it as a weapon......well, you'd be pretty dumb. You could easily make yourself a billionaire with that technology just off sales of the weapons themselves, much less all the additional money you could earn from the technology.
Its worth based on its composition and make up is pretty negligible, a few pounds of plastic and metal...not much.
In 40k
Its value as a weapon is the same.
As a piece of technology.....worthless
As components worthless.
I think you need to define the question more. Its like saying how much would my laptop be worth in 1901.....many many billion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 20:23:17
Subject: Re:How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Brigadier General
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I think you guys are forgetting inflation and the likeliness that Lasguns are going to me more illegal black market stuff.
An imperial citizen must be paying a load more for his gun than you think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 20:28:06
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The Imperial Society is usually an Armed Society. They are expected to be able to take up arms to defend the Emperor's Planet from the depredations of the Xeno, the Mutant and the Heretic.
While this doesn't hold true on all worlds, on most Hive and Imperial Worlds, every citizen is armed with at least some sort of slug-throwing pistol. On Frontier Worlds, hunting rifles and scatterguns are common.
As is often repeated in discussions of the Imperial Guard, the lasgun is cheap, easy to manufacture, and exists in countless trillions on worlds across the Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 20:32:33
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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sing your life wrote:I think you guys are forgetting inflation and the likeliness that Lasguns are going to me more illegal black market stuff.
An imperial citizen must be paying a load more for his gun than you think.
regular people are commonly armed with lasguns in every bit of 40k fluff i have ever read...
you are forgetting that the whole IOM is dedicated to war and its material, so this stuff will be as relatively "cheap" as our own standard issue military arms, if not cheaper, barring serious localized supply shortages.
so we are talking a few grand at most for a good colt now a days,
so it would be a few grand at most for a las gun.
enough that not just anyone has one, but they are still common enough
even the most feral of worlds will be producing/importing/cherishing las guns to hunt with and kill the local man eating whatevers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/05 20:48:31
Subject: How much should a lasgun cost in us dollars
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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In the FFG game, a lasgun costs roughly three weeks worth of pay for an average Hive Worker. They run 60 to 90 "Thrones" on average (there are, literally, scores of different types of lasguns in the books) and the average Hive Worker makes like 120-140 Thrones a month.
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