This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things - Girl Found Eating Herself in a Cage, Parents Sentenced 30yrs

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**Alfndrate**

Sweet Jesus Christ people! Parents, hug your kids a little tighter tonight, yes this story is from 2011, but there has been an update.

From: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/virginia-girl-found-eating-cage-mobile-home-article-1.140154

Virginia girl found eating herself in cage in mobile home; parents Brian and Shannon Gore charged
The girl, believed to be between 5 or 6 years old, was discovered in a crib that was altered to serve as a type of cage. She was discovered in only a diaper and t-shirt and eating her dried skin.

A young girl was found caged and attempting to eat herself in a mobile home in Virginia, and cops say her parents are responsible.
The malnourished girl, believed to be either 5 or 6, was discovered in a crib that was converted into a makeshift cage after police arrived at the home in Gloucester County to investigate a burglary last week.
The girl's parents, Brian and Shannon Gore, were arrested and charged with felony child abuse. The mother was also charged with attempted capital murder.
However, the gruesome twosome now faces first-degree murder charges after the remains of what authorities believe to be another child were found buried outside their mobile home.
"I've done this for 20 years, and I've never seen anything like this in my life," Gloucester Sheriff's Maj. Darrell Warren said.
A month-old baby boy was also found in the home, but was in good condition. Both he and the older girl are now in the care of the county Department of Social Services.
The horrific find came as police investigated a robbery on April 17.

A nearby homeowner reported his house was broken into and claimed gold bullion, a vacuum cleaner, a passport, $2,000 in cash and other items had been stolen, according to a police report.
Investigators trailed the bullion to an auction house, which claimed to have bought the gold from 25-year-old Shannon Gore.
Authorities arrived at her mobile home in Gloucester with a search warrant when they made the shocking discovery.
The girl's blond-hair was matted and filled with knots. She wore only a diaper and t-shirt and was eating flakes of dried skin on her body.
Brian Gore, 29, reportedly told police the girl had been kept in the cage since the summer.
"It was horrific. I don't know what else to say," Lt. Scott Little of the Sheriff's Department told Virginia's Daily Press on Friday.
"They seemed like nice people," neighbor Tim Hudnall told the newspaper. He noted he had seen the baby boy, but never saw a girl with the Gores in the six years they've been neighbors.
"He was really a nice guy," Brian Gore's ex-girlfriend, Sandy, told WTKR 3 News in Norfolk. "He went to church and everything."
Deputies discovered the child's remains while digging under and around a shed at the mobile home Friday evening. The age, gender and identity of the remains are not known, pending an examination by the state Medical Examiner's Office.
The Gores are being held in prison as authorities determine how the child died. An autopsy report by the state medical examiner is pending.

UPDATE: Since this story was originally published in 2011, Brian and Shannon Gore plead guilty to aggravated malicious wounding and child abuse charges in March 2013. They were later sentenced to a total of 30 years in prison

Seriously, wtf is wrong with some people?

**Hlaine Larkin mk2**

Holy gak on a gak sandwich, how could you do that to your own child?

**djones520**

Some people are just sick. To be able to do that to your own child, you deserve to just be put down. 30 years is way to lenient.

**whembly**

I know a hog farm nearby...

**djones520**

whembly wrote:
I know a hog farm nearby...

No... I do not want that filth infecting my bacon.

It's things like this that make me content with living parenthood as a hermit. I will not let other people watch my children, unless they've passed very stringent tests of character... I had way to many horrible baby sitters, not quite to this scale, but still monster worthy.

**whembly**

djones520 wrote:
whembly wrote:
I know a hog farm nearby...

No... I do not want that filth infecting my bacon.

It's things like this that make me content with living parenthood as a hermit. I will not let other people watch my children, unless they've passed very stringent tests of character... I had way to many horrible baby sitters, not quite to this scale, but still monster worthy.

Woah... consider me, convinced.

Acid bath then?

**hotsauceman1**

Is it bad that when I read it was in a mobile home I thought "officers it is"

**Jehan-reznor**

These are not people, they not a part of the human race!

**Manchu**

djones520 wrote:
To be able to do that to your own child, you deserve to just be put down.

Finally something you and I can agree on! Well, pretty much ~ let's see if there's a murder charge, too.

**Steve steveson**

"He was really a nice guy," Brian Gore's ex-girlfriend, Sandy, told WTKR 3 News in Norfolk. "He went to church and everything."

Right, I'm Catholic, so this is not an anti religion thing, or anti Christian thing, but why the hell do people say things like this? Why do they think "Going to church = Good person". I have known some horrid people who went to church every week, or more, and know plenty of non church goers and declared atheists that are good and nice people.

Anyway, with one dead child and a baby in good health I can't help thinking that there must be some underlieing cause. I can't help but feel a little sorry for them that something in there lives has gone so wrong that they are that broken this happened. What they did was wrong, but I can't see how someone would commit that kind of neglect out of mallace. Something must have gone very wrong for one or both of them at some point.

**Fafnir**

Steve steveson wrote:

"He was really a nice guy," Brian Gore's ex-girlfriend, Sandy, told WTKR 3 News in Norfolk. "He went to church and everything."

Right, I'm Catholic, so this is not an anti religion thing, or anti Christian thing, but why the hell do people say things like this? Why do they think "Going to church = Good person". I have known some horrid people who went to church every week, or more, and know plenty of non church goers and declared atheists that are good and nice people.

My thoughts were fairly similar. Granted, I'm an atheist, but I never attributed someone's quality as a 'good person' to coincide 'attended a certain club.'

**Alfndrate**

Steve steveson wrote:

"He was really a nice guy," Brian Gore's ex-girlfriend, Sandy, told WTKR 3 News in Norfolk. "He went to church and everything."

Right, I'm Catholic, so this is not an anti religion thing, or anti Christian thing, but why the hell do people say things like this? Why do they think "Going to church = Good person". I have known some horrid people who went to church every week, or more, and know plenty of non church goers and declared atheists that are good and nice people.

Because there is the mindset that going to a religious institution can teach someone how to treat other people with respect, love, kindness. So when you are in a small community in which everyone attends one of maybe 2 or 3 local places of worship, people tend to think, "well he read his scriptures, he helped at our bake sales, he was a kind soul." They think, a church going person could never commit such an act, because that's not what the church taught him. But you'll find gakkers in every walk of life.

Also, Manchu when did they change the Catholic Mass so much, I went on Sunday for the first time in uh... years, and quite a bit has changed since I was a regular church going-lad.

**Steve steveson**

Alfndrate wrote:

Because there is the mindset that going to a religious institution can teach someone how to treat other people with respect, love, kindness. So when you are in a small community in which everyone attends one of maybe 2 or 3 local places of worship, people tend to think, "well he read his scriptures, he helped at our bake sales, he was a kind soul." They think, a church going person could never commit such an act, because that's not what the church taught him. But you'll find gakkers in every walk of life.

Rhetorical question

I know WHY they think that. Same reason every violent kids mum says they are an angel, or any violence is out of caricter.

Alfndrate wrote:

Also, Manchu when did they change the Catholic Mass so much, I went on Sunday for the first time in uh... years, and quite a bit has changed since I was a regular church going-lad.

Manchu will probably know better than me, as I am an irregular church goer, but I think there was some major changes in 2001 and came fully in to force in 2011. The changes were not that major as I remember, but seems odd. For example:

'Lord, I am not worthy to receive you . .

became

'Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof . . .'

Or

'Lord, I am not worthy to recei... Um... that you should enter under my roof . . .' When the priest is automatically saying the same words he has said again and again, but then my priest sill dose a monthly mass in Latin. He dosn't like change

But because you are so used to the old way it seems strange.

**hotsauceman1**

I never listen to mass., I just go t placate my mother(Yes even at 21)
In the end I dont think just going to church makes you a god in god eyes. All it is is sacraficing time in your day to sit. I do gods work in other ways

**gossipmeng**

"He went to church and everything." - What a wonderful man :O !

**Ensis Ferrae**

I actually do have to wonder.... was the girl actually theirs??? I mean, neighbors who've lived there her whole life claim to have NEVER seen the girl?

I mean, I kinda assume that during the investigating they did run a DNA test or something, but how much more fethed would this be if it werent even their kid to begin with?

**mega_bassist**

Fuuuu, that's beyond terrible. I...I can't even...

Can we have a really happy story, like the one from last Friday, to make up for this?

**Manchu**

Fafnir wrote:
I never attributed someone's quality as a 'good person' to coincide 'attended a certain club.'

Don't be ridiculous. Do you mean to tell me, if a person was an active member of a club that actively encourages volunteer work and charitable giving to help the less fortunate you wouldn't suspect they might be a good person? How about if that "club" provided more money and working hours of assistance to the needy than any government on earth and any other institution in the history of humanity?

Steve steveson wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:
Also, Manchu when did they change the Catholic Mass so much, I went on Sunday for the first time in uh... years, and quite a bit has changed since I was a regular church going-lad.
Manchu will probably know better than me, as I am an irregular church goer, but I think there was some major changes in 2001 and came fully in to force in 2011. The changes were not that major as I remember, but seems odd.

Correct. What we used to say was translated locally according to the principle of "dynamic equivalence." Somebody in Rome was anxious about our translation not being exact enough so another one was done in Rome according to the principle of "formal equivalence." I don't like the new translation very much. To me, it makes the language more of an obstacle. So, for example, for consubstantiálem Patri we used to say "one in being with the Father" and now we say "consubstantial with the Father." The whole point of not using "consubstantial," which just means "one in being," was that it's a latinism.

Anyway ... this is entirely off-topic so if you want to discuss more please let's have a separate thread about it.

**Co'tor Shas**

gossipmeng wrote:
"He went to church and everything." - What a wonderful man :O !

If they were catholic, maybe they told the kid that she was Jesus!

I didn't feel right telling this joke...

**Steve steveson**

Manchu wrote:
Fafnir wrote:
I never attributed someone's quality as a 'good person' to coincide 'attended a certain club.'
Don't be ridiculous. Do you mean to tell me, if a person was an active member of a club that actively encourages volunteer work and charitable giving to help the less fortunate you wouldn't suspect they might be a good person? How about if that "club" provided more money and working hours of assistance to the needy than any government on earth and any other institution in the history of humanity?

I think your reading more in to that than he meant. Being a nominal member of a club, or religion, and being an active member fully upholding the values and beliefs of that group are two different things. I understand what your saying, as it is an argument I have had myself with people, but I also see what Fafnir is saying, even though he was answering a rhetorical question. I don't think he meant any offense by it.

**Desubot**

Honestly though something COMPLETELY different from the title.

I am disappointed.

**KingCracker**

Fafnir wrote:
Steve steveson wrote:

"He was really a nice guy," Brian Gore's ex-girlfriend, Sandy, told WTKR 3 News in Norfolk. "He went to church and everything."

Right, I'm Catholic, so this is not an anti religion thing, or anti Christian thing, but why the hell do people say things like this? Why do they think "Going to church = Good person". I have known some horrid people who went to church every week, or more, and know plenty of non church goers and declared atheists that are good and nice people.

My thoughts were fairly similar. Granted, I'm an atheist, but I never attributed someone's quality as a 'good person' to coincide 'attended a certain club.'

Agreed with both. Growing up, the neighbors across the street had a grandpa that was a preacher. That man, was the meanest son of a bitch I've ever known in person.

**DarkTraveler777**

Steve steveson wrote:
Manchu wrote:
Fafnir wrote:
I never attributed someone's quality as a 'good person' to coincide 'attended a certain club.'
Don't be ridiculous. Do you mean to tell me, if a person was an active member of a club that actively encourages volunteer work and charitable giving to help the less fortunate you wouldn't suspect they might be a good person? How about if that "club" provided more money and working hours of assistance to the needy than any government on earth and any other institution in the history of humanity?

I think your reading more in to that than he meant. Being a nominal member of a club, or religion, and being an active member fully upholding the values and beliefs of that group are two different things. I understand what your saying, as it is an argument I have had myself with people, but I also see what Fafnir is saying, even though he was answering a rhetorical question. I don't think he meant any offense by it.

Well put, I don't think Fafnir was being offensive at all.

And yes, Manchu, no matter how well meaning an organization is membership in that organization should not allow for assumptions like those made by the ex-girlfriend in the story. Especially if that organization itself has a checkered past and committed (and continues to commit in some people's eyes) gross ethical infractions. Now, obviously this is a fairly common assumption to make but it is still rather silly when you break it down. Just as silly as saying "wow, she was a soldier, I can't believed she committed this crime" or "wow, he was a cop, I can't believe he committed that crime" since culturally we attribute a lot of positive traits with the profession of solider and police officer, and yet members of those organizations (military and law enforcement) routinely commit atrocious acts that run counter to the perception society has of those organizations.

So, we shouldn't assume right? Membership to a club should have no bearing on how we perceive someone's ethical fortitude when so many individual members of upstanding clubs often engage in rather debased behavior.

**SilverMK2**

I was expecting the girl to have eaten fingers, toes and lumps of flesh based off the title, not just eating flakes of dead skin.

**-Shrike-**

SilverMK2 wrote:
I was expecting the girl to have eaten fingers, toes and lumps of flesh based off the title, not just eating flakes of dead skin.

Agreed, although it doesn't make this fethed up act any better.

**Manchu**

Steve steveson wrote:
I don't think he meant any offense by it.

I'm not so sure. But it doesn't really matter. His point is still ridiculous. The point of church is being part of a community that believes in helping others because it is good and doing so makes its members good. So I really don't understand why anyone would be confused by the statement "they even went to church" -- yes, there are bad people who go to church and always have been and always will be. But on the whole, being part of a church is generally a socially positive thing.

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Just as silly as saying "wow, she was a soldier, I can't believed she committed this crime" or "wow, he was a cop, I can't believe he committed that crime"

The difference is, those are careers. While some people pursue them in part because of moral ideals, there are a lot of other motivations involved. Church membership, by contrast, is predominantly a matter of what a person thinks is right and wrong. I'm not saying only good people go to church. I'm saying one of the most important and common reasons people go to church is because they would like to be better people.

I realize that some folks go to church primarily to socialize or keep up appearances but even so they have to sit through a lot of talk about the Golden Rule and helping the poor and forgiving and forgoing judgement. People who would sit through that voluntarily for years on end are generally not the types you'd expect to lock their baby in a cage -- you know, unless your primary experience of Christianity is smarmy Maher/Dawkins anti-religious propaganda.

**DarkTraveler777**

Manchu wrote:
you know, unless your primary experience of Christianity is smarmy Maher/Dawkins anti-religious propaganda.

Or real abuses suffered by "devout" practitioners. But thanks. I think you are revealing your own bias here and are a little too emotionally attached to this topic add much of worth.

**fishy bob**

SilverMK2 wrote:
I was expecting the girl to have eaten fingers, toes and lumps of flesh based off the title, not just eating flakes of dead skin.

I did too, so this isn't so bad, really

Those sickos should be put to sleep. #redundantpost

**Manchu**

DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Manchu wrote:
you know, unless your primary experience of Christianity is smarmy Maher/Dawkins anti-religious propaganda.
Or real abuses suffered by "devout" practitioners. But thanks. I think you are revealing your own bias here and are a little too emotionally attached to this topic add much of worth.

Appeal to victimhood noted. Attempt to claim moral high ground noted. Neither counter the fact that church membership is generally socially positive and it makes perfect sense to be shocked that regular church goers would secretly commit heinous acts.

**-Shrike-**

Manchu wrote:
DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Manchu wrote:
you know, unless your primary experience of Christianity is smarmy Maher/Dawkins anti-religious propaganda.
Or real abuses suffered by "devout" practitioners. But thanks. I think you are revealing your own bias here and are a little too emotionally attached to this topic add much of worth.
Appeal to victimhood noted. Attempt to claim moral high ground noted. Neither counter the fact that church membership is generally socially positive and it makes perfect sense to be shocked that regular church goers would secretly commit heinous acts.

Manchu is making perfect sense here. If the person is an adult and goes to church regularly, the commonly held perception is that they are attempting to become a better person morally.