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What pops into your head?

Try and answer fast and quick before you have a chance to self censor.

If you want to provide more explanation after your answer, that's fine too, but first just get it out there.

Any answer is fine, could be a certain weapon, a definition of a class of weapon, a legal case, a news item, a gut reaction, a personal experience, etc, etc whatever.
I'll offer mine in a bit, but I'm curious what folks thoughts are for this term before I have a chance to muddy the waters with my own thoughts.

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To me? Ak-47
Or something from halo

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So much for fast and quick.

First thing that came to mind was full shots at full range even when moving. also allows for an assault after wards.


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An automatic rifle generally.

   
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Bananna clip i think its called.. the curvey clip you see on AKs and the STG 44 etc
   
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AK-47

   
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Selective fire rifle such as M-16, M-4, Ak series.

By selective I mean that it can switch from single shot to full auto etc

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M16 or AK-47.
   
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Magazine fed firearm, with select fire capabilities, and an intermediate cartridge. Generally used by the military and law enforcement.

So in short, not the scary black tacticool rifle that the media often gets worked up about


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 djones520 wrote:
Hysteria?


That was actually my second thought

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Oh Hell....its another of these bashing threads on weapon owners

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I think of a rifle that fires salt.

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For maximum effect, add curry.

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AK-47 or AK-74, though both of these had various other marks making them into carbines and such. The first true assault rifle was the StG-44, a German weapon in the second world war used by both the SS and Wermacht.

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Dang Ahtman ...its not salt rounds. Re-watch Super Natural. You can plainly see Dean and Sam using shotgun shells packed with salt.

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 Ma55ter_fett wrote:
A cat who has been feed nothing but ghost peppers and laxatives and is currently being held arse end forwards.

Im pretty sure that has been banned by the geneva convention

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A headline grabbing phrase.
   
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Thanks for your input folks.

My quick answer is an m16, banana clips, ak47 and black rifle.

Assault rifle is such a loaded term, that I was curious what images it stirred up other folks. I got thinking about this when I was thinking about the terms we hear in the news when a rifle is involved, some of which are mutually contradictory. For example, "Assault Rifle" and "Hi Powered rifle" terms which are often used interchangeably, but are actually almost always completely different types of firearms.

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 Eilif wrote:
Assault rifle is such a loaded term, that I was curious what images it stirred up other folks. I got thinking about this when I was thinking about the terms we hear in the news when a rifle is involved, some of which are mutually contradictory. For example, "Assault Rifle" and "Hi Powered rifle" terms which are often used interchangeably, but are actually almost always completely different types of firearms.

What is actually meant by an "assault rifle" (see my definition above) and what the media use the phrase for are two very different things. And the phrase gets used by the media because it is so loaded. If there was any concern for factual accuracy they would describe the firearm as a semi-automatic rifle. But that just isn't scary enough.

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I also think of things like AK47 and M16.

Also, regarding "salt" rifles: http://bugasalt.com/

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I'm going with Battle rifles. Since the selector commonly used in combat is safe, single, burst/automatic. Assault Rifles I'm going with semi auto

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Eilif wrote:
Assault rifle is such a loaded term, that I was curious what images it stirred up other folks. I got thinking about this when I was thinking about the terms we hear in the news when a rifle is involved, some of which are mutually contradictory. For example, "Assault Rifle" and "Hi Powered rifle" terms which are often used interchangeably, but are actually almost always completely different types of firearms.

What is actually meant by an "assault rifle" (see my definition above) and what the media use the phrase for are two very different things. And the phrase gets used by the media because it is so loaded. If there was any concern for factual accuracy they would describe the firearm as a semi-automatic rifle. But that just isn't scary enough.


It's interesting the ways that the Military, Media's, various Legal and Popular definitions overlap and differ. Just taking into account the matter of select (auto capable) and semi-only. The military definition is select fire, yet many laws (which do not all agree) specifically define various semi-auto only weapons as "Assault" rifles if they have certain grips, features, Hi-capacity removable magazines, or other criteria. The public and the Media on the other hand are likely -though not always- to call anything that looks "Dangerous" an "Assault Rifle" regardless of whether the weapon can be fired fully-automatic.

Whether the term Assault Rifle is use because of fear, lack of understanding, expediency, attention-grabbing, or even a desire to be accurate (when used accurately) is varied and debatable. Opinions on that are probably going to line up with a persons political and gun-control views, but there's no denying that it's a loaded term.

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 Jihadin wrote:
I'm going with Battle rifles. Since the selector commonly used in combat is safe, single, burst/automatic. Assault Rifles I'm going with semi auto

I thought that the difference between a BR and AR was the fact that a BR is chambered for 7.62x51mm


 Eilif wrote:
It's interesting the ways that the Military, Media's, various Legal and Popular definitions overlap and differ. Just taking into account the matter of select (auto capable) and semi-only. The military definition is select fire, yet many laws (which do not all agree) specifically define various semi-auto only weapons as "Assault" rifles if they have certain grips, features, Hi-capacity removable magazines, or other criteria. The public and the Media on the other hand are likely -though not always- to call anything that looks "Dangerous" an "Assault Rifle" regardless of whether the weapon can be fired fully-automatic.

Whether the term Assault Rifle is use because of fear, lack of understanding, expediency, attention-grabbing, or even a desire to be accurate (when used accurately) is varied and debatable. Opinions on that are probably going to line up with a persons political and gun-control views, but there's no denying that it's a loaded term.

I generally use the definition that was developed by those who know what they are actually talking about. Recent attempts to define semi-automatics as "assault rifles" based on cosmetic features (collapsible stock, pistol grip, etc.) are almost unintentionally hilarious when changing the furniture of a firearm like a Ruger Mini 14 from a wooden fixed stock to a composite stock with pistol grip changes it's classification in spite of the firearm being functionally the same.

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