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I've seen some passing mention of it and people saying it's a number one bad A. What's the story on it.

5 screamers with 3 heralds on disks. Likely to get forwarning. One with Grimoire, giving them a 2+ rerollable invulnerable save.

its basically rambo, chuck norris, bruce lee, jackie chan, (um, die hard guy). Stallone, that paladin you saw from that game once (yes, the one that singlehandedly kicked all the bad dudes assests), riding on the back of giant luna wolves aided by the spirits of the wood elf forest with giant axes made of living flame or ice.

THEN we get to the rest of it.

 raiden wrote:
(um, die hard guy)

Bruce Willis.

But yea, they already sum'd it up with the screamers and heralds on disks with all the goodies. It's right up there with some other lists for being a general unpleasant sight to see on the table.

 raiden wrote:
its basically rambo, chuck norris, bruce lee, jackie chan, (um, die hard guy). Stallone, that paladin you saw from that game once (yes, the one that singlehandedly kicked all the bad dudes assests), riding on the back of giant luna wolves aided by the spirits of the wood elf forest with giant axes made of living flame or ice.

THEN we get to the rest of it.

Screamerstars are the Expendables?

A miserable pile of 2+ saves.

Basically a maxed out squad of screamers with maxed out tzheralds on discs all with maxed out ML so they can roll on divination to try and get forewarning for a 4+ invulnerable save on their squad and then one of them has an exalted reward to swap out for the grimoire of true names which increases a units invul by 2 on a 3+ so they can turn that 4++ into a 2++ and since they are daemons of tzeentch they can reroll saving throws of 1 which effectively makes it a rerollable 2++, then slap on greaters and lessers to give the heralds some etherblades for ap2 cc goodness and take an exalted loci to get all those ML 3 psykers s6 on their flickering fire that is most likely prescienced and is ignoring cover since divination is the most stupid thing to ever hit this game, and then they will most likely have a fateweaver sitting in reserves all game thanks to scriers gaze which is another div power and use him just for the ability to reroll the grimoire fail and the warpstorm incase they make one of their psykers explode or they decrease their invul save.

The story on it? One of the dumbest things to be in 40k. A nearly unkillable deathstar that moves very fast (jetbike status), and this is coming from a Daemon player.

I for one, under any circumstance, will never field this list. I feel bad enough having the 2++ rerollable on Fatey.

What's the best counter to one?

stay away. or rune priests.

Can Orks do anything against it?

Relapse wrote:
Can Orks do anything against it?

Take a stompa or spam SAGs and hope for box cars


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Relapse wrote:
What's the best counter to one?

D weapons

I've heard nuclear bombs are effective against screamerstars.

 A sane man wrote:
I've heard nuclear bombs are effective against screamerstars.

What codex has those? I would love to field some in my games

...and Im a Daemons player, so you know when we admit to cheese, its probably grade A.

It seems like a fully kitted screamstar as I've read about here would take quite a few points, leaving the rest of the army weak in say a 2,000 point game, especially if Fateweaver is thrown in.

 A GumyBear wrote:

 A sane man wrote:
I've heard nuclear bombs are effective against screamerstars.

What codex has those? I would love to field some in my games

Codex: US military

So, lots and lots of cheese with extra cheese on top and an extra side of cheese.

So, why aren't they on top of more tournaments?

Screamerstars are usually ~500-700 pts. They are defined by their large number of psychic powers (they are trying to roll Forewarning) so they have reasonable shooting/buffing/maledictions, 2++ rerollable, and jetbike movement. They also have armour bane attacks and deal decent damage in melee.

The best way to tackle one is to either ignore it (splitting your units across the board so it has to waste time boosting around) and kill everything else. Being orks you actually have the single best response to it which is tarpit it (bikers and a unit of boyz will trap it all game long).

The new super heavy walker will do a number on it if it gets into CC but that is not necessarily easy.

Honestly if your playing pure orks against someone playing that level of list you are really at a major disadvantage and will need to be a much much better player than them or a much luckier roller. You may need to have a discussion with your opponent if this is supposed to be a "friendly" game.

BTW if the grimoire fails and the screamers end up with a 5++ then hammer them HARD. If you take out fatey early you should get that failed grimoire...well if your opponent isn't crazy lucky.

Other strategies revolve around playing around your opponent to the mission and requires detailed info about the terrain, board, mission, and army lists. I would check out some of Jy2's batreps as he has a few that give good examples of taking on deathstars.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 A GumyBear wrote:

 A sane man wrote:
I've heard nuclear bombs are effective against screamerstars.

What codex has those? I would love to field some in my games

Codex: US military

Pfft Codex: US military is so competitive.

Codex: Soviet Stereotype is better. They get Tsar bombs and Bear Cavalry!

The problem is that unless the grimore fails you can't really do a lot to them which sucks.

Just bring a rev titan since you can use them in standard games.

4 D Large Blasts, accept their surrender.

 Imperator_Class wrote:
Just bring a rev titan since you can use them in standard games.

4 D Large Blasts, accept their surrender.