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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
It looks like all the best minis were left out of the core pledge, excepting characters. What are the odds the prices will remain so high at retail?

I think they will drop the RRP to $30 so guess that will relate to them being available for $20 after discount in the US (not so lucky with discounts in the UK).

Gencon Update!



Can't make them all out but there is Coldhands on his stag (who will he fight for? Unit to go with Bran perhaps) and two war machines there along side other new units and characters.

It might just be the lighting or reflection but there appears to be a giant to the very far right.

on the other horse ... that could be a Dothraki with a bow

in the back ... are these the Umbers with doublehanded axes? they look huge ...

lets have more close up pictures!!!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
On KS, miniatures boardgames do significantly better than non-miniatures boardgames. CMoN does among the best miniatures boardgames on KS. CMoN's well-established Zombicide pulled $4M and $5M. CMoN doing a GoT miniatures boardgame would pull $5M+, notwithstanding the existence of FFG's GoT game.

Can you provide any source that did any market research into these numbers you've literally pulled directly out of nowhere?

CMoN's last KS was $5M. The information is all readily available, so you can check it for yourself.

You do understand that you cannot predict a different product line's future success on a completely different product line's past success? If I manufactured razor blades for men and made $5 million, and I now manufacture grooming combs for tiny dogs, should I expect to also make $5 million? Both are grooming products but have completely different core audiences - though there will be some overlap.
But you will ignore anything that directly refutes you, so I will let you continue to explain how my tiny dog grooming combs are an unmitigated failure because I only made $1.5 million on them.


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 RiTides wrote:
That's enough on the "expectations" tangent, please - the point's made on all sides.

Thanks all

Woops, sorry dude, didn't see this till after I replied. I'm done

 Fireball wrote:
on the other horse ... that could be a Dothraki with a bow

in the back ... are these the Umbers with doublehanded axes? they look huge ...

Aeneades posted a picture on the last page, showing Umbar infantry with two handed axes. They're the second of three Umbar units that are going to be released.

And I'm going to guess that the mounted archer is a Reed unit, since it's in Stark grey.

Now, is it just me, or are the miniatures at the far end colored black? Are they Greyjoy units?

The colors do not tell much IMO ... Eddard Stark is orange in that picture

And I still do not understand why people are comparing the success of this tabletop wargame with boardgame kickstarters. Looking at the final stretch goals and the fact they did not offer more optional buy units I think they landed in a range of pledge volume they anticipated ... but what do I know

Some better photos of the models have been uploaded to the Facebook group but annoyingly can't post copies from my phone.

I think the guy on horse back might be a Nights Watch ranger.

I only say that because there are close ups/clearer pictures posted in the ASOIAF UK FB group. One mini is Cold Hands and the characters on the far right all have distinctive heavy furs and one is fat (Sam?).

If the pics haven't materialised by the time I'm home I will post them here for you guys.

It looks like Gilly with baby next to Sam so nights watch maybe coming sooner then I would have expected.

Looks like Mellisandra between Coldhands and the other mounted figure.

I like the inclusion of the crew on the war machine bases but hard to tell what faction they are for. Perhaps the war machines are Mercenary units so everyone can use them (or have interchangeable crews depending on faction)

Aeneades wrote:
It looks like Gilly with baby next to Sam so nights watch maybe coming sooner then I would have expected.

Looks like Mellisandra between Coldhands and the other mounted figure.

I like the inclusion of the crew on the war machine bases but hard to tell what faction they are for. Perhaps the war machines are Mercenary units so everyone can use them (or have interchangeable crews depending on faction)

I think War Machines as mercs makes the most sense for now. Get some basic warmachines out for everyone to use and then faction specific warmachines come later (dracarys?)

Looking at the female with skull again she may be Val, the wildling princess rather than Mellisandre which would suggest the second starter is Nightswatch vs Wildlings.

Aeneades wrote:
Looking at the female with skull again she may be Val, the wild long princess rather than Mellisandre which would suggest the second starter is Nightswatch vs Wildlings.

Oh man... I would've been all over that on KS versus what we got. Anytime I could rock Tormund Giantsbane on a table-top would be a good thing.

From TricTrac - https://www.trictrac.net/forum/sujet/ks-en-vu-prochain-cmon-a-song-of-ice-fire?page=4&limit=32#post-e248152ec9c9ec4c9c22da8615e8172d52c6

EDIT: which may have come from facebook originally (I'm not on facebook so I can't tell whats beyond this link) - https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155590274318582&set=gm.1259468724165542&type=3&theater




Warmachine crew look generic enough to work for multiple factions

You can see Sam in that second photo but Gilly is partly obscured

Aeneades wrote:
Gencon Update!

Wait, they're doing a Kick-Ass game? Holy crap.

I have seen more close ups now and I think the other figure on the horse might be Tormund as he appears to have a metal ring on his arm and is similar to the existing dark sword version. I can't recall whether he rides a horse in the novel.

One of the characters is definitely Thorne.

3 more

I am hugely confused, is there a second boxed game of this coming out then with the Baratheons and someone else as the factions? Seems unlikely but stranger things have happened.

That's what I heard. This starter box with Stark v Lannister and another starter box with two other factions.

Back on page 1 there's a release timeline, that shows 2 starter sets.

A second box game is coming directly to retail (to help support stores) around 3 months after the Stark vs Lannister park is released. Early guesses were that it would be Baratheon vs Greyjoy or Tyrell but now appears that it's nightwatch vs Wildling a or Nightwatch & Wildlings vs the White Walkers.

 Manchu wrote:
That's what I heard. This starter box with Stark v Lannister and another starter box with two other factions.

How bizzare, looks like Baratheon vs the Wildlings with Nightswatch allies going by this.

foenixphate wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
That's what I heard. This starter box with Stark v Lannister and another starter box with two other factions.

How bizzare, looks like Baratheon vs the Wildlings with Nightswatch allies going by this.

I'm not really sure where you're seeing Baratheons?

Forgive me, I am not a ASOIAF fan, but if this game is about the War of Five Kings, isn't it a bit weird to make figs of wildlings, white walkers, and watch?

 ImAGeek wrote:

foenixphate wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
That's what I heard. This starter box with Stark v Lannister and another starter box with two other factions.

How bizzare, looks like Baratheon vs the Wildlings with Nightswatch allies going by this.

I'm not really sure where you're seeing Baratheons?

I might have crossed wires thinking the "Coldhands" mini was a Baratheon.

 Manchu wrote:
Forgive me, I am not a ASOIAF fan, but if this game is about the War of Five Kings, isn't it a bit weird to make figs of wildlings, white walkers, and watch?

I don't think it's that limited in scope, reading the intro blurb bit from post 1
'The A Song of Ice and Fire: Tabletop Miniatures Game lets players take control of their favorite Houses from the novels, represented by trays of high-quality, pre-assembled miniatures, and lead them into battle against their opponents. Players can recreate their favorite moments from the series or create their own stories. What if the Red Wedding never happened, and Robb Stark assaulted King’s Landing? Now fans can find out!
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foenixphate wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

foenixphate wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
That's what I heard. This starter box with Stark v Lannister and another starter box with two other factions.

How bizzare, looks like Baratheon vs the Wildlings with Nightswatch allies going by this.

I'm not really sure where you're seeing Baratheons?

I might have crossed wires thinking the "Coldhands" mini was a Baratheon.

Ah, no; he's an undead Ranger who rides an elk.

Cool necromancer style figure there are some nice sculpts here for other games.

1 more - the catapult "commander" looks very Northern with the furs.

(Did nobody take pictures of the right side of the cabinet? )

The right hand side was where I thought there might be a giant but it could have been for a different game line or just a reflection as the photo quality was poor. I am sure we would have seen close ups by now if it was something new.

Aeneades wrote:
Looking at the female with skull again she may be Val, the wildling princess rather than Mellisandre which would suggest the second starter is Nightswatch vs Wildlings.

I agree that she's almost certainly a wildling but I can't see her being Val (or Dalla). Can't think why she'd be wearing bones and carrying a skull. I'd have gone more along the lines of her being a generic Wildling Woods Witch attachment or whatever name they give them.