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skarsol wrote: Is it still possible for people to add Deadzone Scenery to their pledges? If so and someone in the US is willing to, drop me a PM.
Their deadzone pledges? Yes.
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Yonan wrote: Hahah nice researching, thanks Aza! I'm picking up some for myself at least (5 battlezones basically I think) so I'll definitely paint them with fantasy/medieval in mind as well. Will try to con him into getting a bunch too as you can't go wrong with lots of modular terrain.
Marble, sandstone, brown or grey clay come to mind as better choices than the .... vibrant.... red chosen by Mantic ; p
Well to be fair, the red brick is the most common that we see today, and Mars Attacks seems to be quite a vibrantly-styled/cartoony game, so bright bricks are fair enough in their promo materials. Once us lot get hold of them is where we'll see the interesting stuff start to emerge. I'm planning to get quite a few myself, and paint them to match the muted red I've done my Armorcast brick ruins in, so they work for WW2-sci-fi, but I think I might now do a bunch in some sandstone ochre and white-grey stone (so sick of dark blue-grey everything from years of 40k). Have to see if the sprue designs work for non-modern buildings, I guess...
and dreadball too. Dreadball teams going for $15-$20.
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Saw dread ball a week ago. They've got some kind of moving sale going on. And 27.99/34.99 is pretty standard in terms of MM discount. Did it say clearance?
GrimDork wrote: Saw dread ball a week ago. They've got some kind of moving sale going on. And 27.99/34.99 is pretty standard in terms of MM discount. Did it say clearance?
Part of the moving sale. I thought people might be looking for stuff so mentioned it when I ran across it; apparently only the Plague are available.
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GrimDork wrote: Ahh yeah. I like MM they occasionally have really nice deals. Darn near ordered one of the $15 db teams.
Should have my stuff in a week or so though so no point in ordering more hold out minis.
They have one Veermyn and one Marauder starter set for $30...almost bought the Marauder one. I like the Marauder sculpts better than GWs Orks...I'll hold off and see if some plastic comes around later with the Warpath KS. I'll buy at retail though, no more Kickstarters for me.
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I think the 1 player starter sets were better deals during the msntic new year sale. ~50 I think but two extra units at normal price. Which is like $40 free dollars or better pending set. Still... $30 sets are nothing to sneeze at, like getting everything in the box at least half off compared to msrp.
carlos13th wrote: I find it unlikely that GW are making new a new game that James has pitched.
Likewise. Mantic would seem a more obvious place where that could happen than GW. More likely a junior position in the studio - but as I said, best of luck to him - a few years there can only be a good thing for his CV!
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scarletsquig wrote: ^ No, nothing confirmed. All OT rambling based on speculation.
Warlord or River Horse were the first that came to mind, although GW pays a good salary to studio staff and Azazel makes a good point that it'd be great for further career advancement.
Didn't realise they were also in Lenton. Isn't River Horse pretty much just Alessio? Warlord seem quite small as well in terms of full-time creative staff - with core people like Priestly, Alessio, Chambers et al essentially doing work for hire. Still, even doing rules writing for either is a step up in terms of the CV from being a community manager.
and dreadball too. Dreadball teams going for $15-$20.
It's all the Mantic stuff that's on Clearance, they're not stocking them anymore, the KoW line as larger discounts. Recommend waiting a bit longer though, the clearance prices aren't even at 50% yet.
Amusingly, judging by stock levels their men-at-arms are selling much faster than the other basileans. Guess price does matter. :p
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Yeah, the deadzone stuff is cheaper in the survey than from MM.
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and dreadball too. Dreadball teams going for $15-$20.
It's all the Mantic stuff that's on Clearance, they're not stocking them anymore, the KoW line as larger discounts. Recommend waiting a bit longer though, the clearance prices aren't even at 50% yet.
Amusingly, judging by stock levels their men-at-arms are selling much faster than the other basileans. Guess price does matter. :p
Uh no they dropped Warpath and Kings of War (and this is the second time they've dropped Warpath and the third time they've dropped King of War - they usually then restock the entire line a few months after clearancing it all off - it's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen but I've been a loyal Miniature Market customer for 4 years now)
They had overstock of a few Dreadball items, hence the discount during the moving sale at 40% off.
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One thing that continues to grate with Mantic and their pre-order system is the usual lack of a firm release date. I am very tempted by the Nexus-Psi one click collection (no copyright infringement intended) but the promise of shipping in "March" with no firm date is ever so slightly annoying.
Oooh videos. I need to go through and watch all of those.
In other news, true to their word, Mantic has finally shipped my order! And it's not just a tracking number lost in limbo, it's been picked up and is in transit. Should get it on Monday. I'd unbox it like I had originally planed to do months ago... but I think that's kind of been done to death at this point. At least it's in time for me to make some decisions about the second survey.
Actually, with the delay on the MA survey end date, it gives me just a little time to think over if I want to pack any more scenery into the MA shipment too, cool.
GrimDork wrote: Oooh videos. I need to go through and watch all of those.
In other news, true to their word, Mantic has finally shipped my order! And it's not just a tracking number lost in limbo, it's been picked up and is in transit. Should get it on Monday. I'd unbox it like I had originally planed to do months ago... but I think that's kind of been done to death at this point. At least it's in time for me to make some decisions about the second survey.
Actually, with the delay on the MA survey end date, it gives me just a little time to think over if I want to pack any more scenery into the MA shipment too, cool.
Congrats! You're finally going to get to go through tons of stuff. I'll cross my fingers that they did you the solid of making sure that everything's there since you had to wait so long.
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The latest update states that the Peacekeepers at 5 for $10 are 50% or more off retail pricing. Seriously? $40 or more for 10 plastic models? What the hell are they thinking?
Mantic, take a long look in the mirror and decide who you really want to be, buddy.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: The latest update states that the Peacekeepers at 5 for $10 are 50% or more off retail pricing. Seriously? $40 or more for 10 plastic models? What the hell are they thinking?
Mantic, take a long look in the mirror and decide who you really want to be, buddy.
Not sure if serious...
$40 for 10 awesome terminator stand ins when the next cheapest is $50 for 5 terminators from GW? I think they know who they are. The affordable alternative.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: The latest update states that the Peacekeepers at 5 for $10 are 50% or more off retail pricing. Seriously? $40 or more for 10 plastic models? What the hell are they thinking?
Mantic, take a long look in the mirror and decide who you really want to be, buddy.
Not sure if serious...
$40 for 10 awesome terminator stand ins when the next cheapest is $50 for 5 terminators from GW? I think they know who they are. The affordable alternative.
I don't know anyone who pays $50 for terminators. That said, discounted Mantic pricing will be closer to $30 so you're still going to save $10 for 5 more models. As far as stand-ins go, the decision to not include optional weapons was probably a bad one if they intend to compete with GW on like vs. like.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: The latest update states that the Peacekeepers at 5 for $10 are 50% or more off retail pricing. Seriously? $40 or more for 10 plastic models? What the hell are they thinking?
Mantic, take a long look in the mirror and decide who you really want to be, buddy.
Not sure if serious...
$40 for 10 awesome terminator stand ins when the next cheapest is $50 for 5 terminators from GW? I think they know who they are. The affordable alternative.
So, I should only buy their products in place of GW and not for their own sake? I thought Mantic's whole schtick was "build bigger armies," especially in plastic. Why should the pricing be so much more expensive than forgefather or marauder plastics? Are they basing their prices off of in-game performance?
They're large models on 40mm bases with a lot of options on the sprue.
Closer to KoW ogres as far as pricing structure goes. $4 or £2.50 each for RRP on a mini like that isn't the end of the world.
The pricing of the regular Enforcer sprues are what I'll be keeping a beady eye on, especially if they haven't got the fusion gun/ thermal rifle and other stuff on the sprue as the new metals seem to hint. Pricing has room for a little rise, but there has to be quality to match.
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assuming 10 for 5 becomes 20 for 5 retail peacekeepers.
5 peacekeepers-->$20(25 even)
Terminators weigh in at $10 per model, peace keepers weigh in at $4-5 a model (theoretically). Half as much or less. Wut?
Peacekeepers are big ass models too, from the looks of what are apparently 40mm bases under their big honkin boots. It's also going to be a plastic kit with some degree of options.
Forget comparing them to terminators, and looking at other mantic units. Of course they should cost more than forge fathers or marauders, they're bigger. Bigger models typically cost more, don't they? Besides the fact that 5 of these should easily outpace the number of points the orx or forge fathers would get you in warpath.
scarletsquig wrote: They're large models on 40mm bases with a lot of options on the sprue.
Closer to KoW ogres as far as pricing structure goes.
The pricing of the Enforcer sprues are what I'll be keeping a beady eye on, especially if they haven't got the fusion gun/ thermal rifle and other stuff on the sprue as the new metals seem to hint.
In that regard the $40 rrp is a full $1 per model cheaper ($4/each) than the Ogres ($5/each). That's about what I would expect from hard plastic.
I'm not a GW fanboi by any stretch but if they don't have any options (they mention just guns but maybe there's a variety of guns), they'll be a hard sale at $4/each for Terminator stand-ins as the GW kits have tons of extras. I'm not downing the Mantic kit, just adding credence to them standing on their own because they might not be as useful as not-terminators without close combat options.
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I should amend my former statement, peacekeepers don't have wp stats yet, but looking between points for rippers, forge guard, and regular enforcers... seems safe to infer 30 or better points in which case my earlier statement tracks.
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Thraxas Of Turai wrote: I see the Peacekeepers retailing at $22.50 for 5, seems pretty fair to me Bob, do not really see any issue?
It would be trivial to add another sprue in the box, and it would make the kit a must-buy instead of a want-some-not-terminators?
Their real competition will be DFG's Valkir, which will probably be cheaper than $4 per model, and include tons of extra bits, including heads, armor, tabards, posing options, extra weapons and kit. Even at the same price per model, the Valkir will blow the Peacekeepers away in terms of value.
going by the "lower sales volume due to lower requirements of quantity in games = higher price point to make back tooling costs" then that seems reasonable. of course i'm getting plenty on the survey at two bucks a pop so it should never affect me personally
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