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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:40:45
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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What do you think is completely pointless wargear (and put on whom) in 40k and why? It doesnt have to be the most pointless as im looking for a list here.
I'll start with combat shields on 1w SM sargeants. 5pts to make a 14pt model 1/6th more survivable but only against weapons that would ignore their armour save to begin with... still a waste of points on a vet sarge! Totally unreliable, circumstantial and mb for the same points makes them more dangerous in more situations.
Your turn...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:48:01
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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The +1S upgrade for Fire Dragon Exarchs.
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"The Emporer is a rouge trader."
- Charlie Chaplain. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:48:47
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
The Eye of Terror
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Aura of Dark Glory for CSM anything. Unless the model can't take Sigil of Corruption or comes with AoDG standard (like Dark Apostle) there is no reason to waste the points on this piece of wargear....ever. It's dumb and pointless and doesn't stack with Sigil of Corruption.
AoDG = +5 Inv. for something like 5 or 10 pts.
SoC = +4 Inv. for the same price.
Why are there two of these? Just to make Chaos players feel better about how little GW gives a crap about us? Insulting. -__-
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"Well there's something I've been meaning to tell you about the college on the edge of the town. No one should ever go there. You know it's bad, bad, bad. It gets worse every school year, but man those freaking teachers are raaaaad! Yea-YEAH-yeah yeah." -Babycakes - China, Il.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/559359.page#6178253 <--Link to my CSM Army lists. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:49:41
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Transdimensional beamer. Why would you ever want to give a jump infantry CC unit a heavy weapon...
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:52:39
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Commissars in a CCS for IG. Honestly, paying 35 points, I believe, on another squishy model that can give your opponent Slay the Warlord if you fail a morale check unless you have some other Ld 10 HQ.
Commissar: *BLAM* "COWARDICE REQUIRES SUMMARY EXECUTION!"
Guardsman in squad: "Commissar... That was Creed! THAT WAS CREEEEEEEEED!"
(Gunfire ensues, transmission cut off)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 16:53:56
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:Transdimensional beamer. Why would you ever want to give a jump infantry CC unit a heavy weapon... To be fair its nice in kill teams when you can give em relentless. Id say auspex. not because its bad or anything. its just that the only people that can take them are in the HQ sections. I dont think any sergeants of any type can take em even though they are in many of the plastic kits.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 17:40:40
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nid Stranglewebs, S2 AP- Template that wounds against Strength. 10PT upgrade to a bolt pistol equivalent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 18:07:51
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Dakka Veteran
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TheRedWingArmada wrote:Aura of Dark Glory for CSM anything. Unless the model can't take Sigil of Corruption or comes with AoDG standard (like Dark Apostle) there is no reason to waste the points on this piece of wargear....ever. It's dumb and pointless and doesn't stack with Sigil of Corruption.
AoDG = +5 Inv. for something like 5 or 10 pts.
SoC = +4 Inv. for the same price.
Why are there two of these? Just to make Chaos players feel better about how little GW gives a crap about us? Insulting. -__-
AoDG = 15 pts
SoC = 25 pts
It's taking AoDG for 15pts and MoT for 15pts to get a 4++ when SoC gives you a 4++ for 5 pts less.
40pts for a 3++ save... eh. Feels pricey.
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Sniper Rifle for a Farseer? (other than the fun/surprise factor)
Scrolls of Magnus (man, are these bad)
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On the "best" side.
Last Memory of Yuranthos
Earth Caste Pilot Array
Puretide Chip thingy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 18:20:15
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
Connah's Quay, North Wales
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Good
Shadowfield
Mindshackle Scarabs
Mantel of the Laughting God
Liquefier (AP 2 flamer FTW!)
Soultrap (Because I once had a strength 65 Archon...)
Voltic Staves
Melta Bombs (because 9/10 they are useless, but that 1/10 WILL BE EPIC!)
Warscythe
Servo Skulls
Bad
Night Vision on the Avatar...with his 12" melta.
Animus Vitae
Blast Pistols
Any Necron weapon other then the Warscythe
Shuri-cannon on DR Exach
Flamer on FD Exarch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 18:20:42
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Sneaky Lictor
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Any of the Nid Lictors....
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/12/30 18:20:57
On building Tyranid army flow chart.
Do you have enough Termagaunts?
No > Add More
Yes > No you don' t > Add more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 19:00:13
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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Vehicle upgrades on IG artillery. If you need a dozer blade on your Basilisk, you are doing something wrong.
2x catapults or 2x spinners on DA or WS exarchs (TL BS5... why am i paying for this)
Fists on random officers in IG. CC is the only one who should have it since hes multi-wound.
Most of DE's wargear (though its kina fluffy to have it all there)
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"Ask not the Eldar a question, for they will give you three answers, all of which are true and terrifying to know."
-Inquisitor Czevak
~14k
~10k
~5k corsairs
~3k DKOK |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 19:03:22
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps
Phoenix, AZ, USA
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Digital Weapon upgrade for a Brother Champion, who already re-rolls everything but saves in melee
SJ
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“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world.”
- Ephesians 6:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 19:06:50
Subject: Re:List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Sponson flamethrowers. If you are that close with your tanks you are doing it wrong.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 19:11:59
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
Brantford, Ontario
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TheRedWingArmada wrote:Aura of Dark Glory for CSM anything. Unless the model can't take Sigil of Corruption or comes with AoDG standard (like Dark Apostle) there is no reason to waste the points on this piece of wargear....ever. It's dumb and pointless and doesn't stack with Sigil of Corruption.
AoDG = +5 Inv. for something like 5 or 10 pts.
SoC = +4 Inv. for the same price.
Why are there two of these? Just to make Chaos players feel better about how little GW gives a crap about us? Insulting. -__-
Its actually 10 points Cheaper and some Independant charcters can't take the sigil, Like warpsmith and Daemon Princes, IIRC.
Useless wargear is Icon of Despair, Fear is usless everything is fearless and if it isnt, your gonna probably eat it in CC anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 19:47:51
Subject: Re:List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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TheCustomLime wrote:Sponson flamethrowers. If you are that close with your tanks you are doing it wrong.
Suicide first wave.
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-three orange whips |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 19:55:32
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Executing Exarch
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You can put him with an Icarus Lascannon for some fun with it, makes it slightly more useful than Night Vision on a Crimson Hunter Exarch (who won't turn up until turn 2 and will not make it to turn 5) - unless your opponent is using Imothek...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 19:56:57
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
Grand Rapids Metro
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Digital Weapons on a GK Champion, he comes stock with the ability to make that reroll. Automatically Appended Next Post: jeffersonian000 wrote:Digital Weapon upgrade for a Brother Champion, who already re-rolls everything but saves in melee
SJ
^As above.
Should have read through the thread first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 21:56:00
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Automated repair system for Tau vehicles. At the end of each of your turns roll a d6 if the vehicle suffered a weapon destroyed or immobilized result (I think on that turn, so you only get one shot). on a 6 your vehicle gets un-immobalized or a weapon gets fixed. Doesn't repair any hull points. Probably not the worst use of 5 points in the game...but dang it feels useless.
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BrianDavion wrote:Between the two of us... I think GW is assuming we the players are not complete idiots.
Rapidly on path to becoming the world's youngest bitter old man. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 23:08:54
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Fireknife Shas'el
Lisbon, Portugal
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Combat Shields. Payable 6++? Gosh.
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AI & BFG: / BMG: Mr. Freeze, Deathstroke / Battletech: SR, OWA / Fallout Factions: BoS / HGB: Caprice / Malifaux: Arcanists, Guild, Outcasts / MCP: Mutants / SAGA: Ordensstaat / SW Legion: CIS / WWX: Union
Unit1126PLL wrote:"FW is unbalanced and going to ruin tournaments."
"Name one where it did that."
"IT JUST DOES OKAY!"
Shadenuat wrote:Voted Astra Militarum for a chance for them to get nerfed instead of my own army. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 23:32:27
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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TheRedWingArmada wrote:Aura of Dark Glory for CSM anything. Unless the model can't take Sigil of Corruption or comes with AoDG standard (like Dark Apostle) there is no reason to waste the points on this piece of wargear....ever. It's dumb and pointless and doesn't stack with Sigil of Corruption. AoDG = +5 Inv. for something like 5 or 10 pts. SoC = +4 Inv. for the same price. Why are there two of these? Just to make Chaos players feel better about how little GW gives a crap about us? Insulting. -__- Aura is 10pts cheaper than sigil. And they both stack with Mark of Tzeentch (not relevant for everyone, but still) I find the aura is great for small games where you need to be frugal with your points, but still want some kind of inv. save. Which is not to say the chaos book isn't chock full of useless crap. Scrolls of Magnus leap immediately to mind.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/12/30 23:38:24
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"I just scoop up the whole unit in my hands and dump them in a pile roughly 6" forward. I don't even care."
- Lord_Blackfang on moving large units
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 23:51:28
Subject: Re:List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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A warp talon champion with two Gifts of Mutation...thats 50 points something that'll die to 9 bolter shots just like a normal marine. Add on veterans of the long war and a mark for 55-60 points.
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"We are the Red Sorcerers of Prospero, damned in the eyes of our fellows, and this is to be how our story ends, in betrayal and bloodshed. No...you may find it nobler to suffer your fate, but I will take arms against it." -Ahzek Ahriman
1250 Points of The Prodigal Sons |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 23:53:05
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Desubot wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Transdimensional beamer. Why would you ever want to give a jump infantry CC unit a heavy weapon...
To be fair its nice in kill teams when you can give em relentless.
Id say auspex. not because its bad or anything.
its just that the only people that can take them are in the HQ sections.
I dont think any sergeants of any type can take em even though they are in many of the plastic kits.
Libby in a Dev Squad can use it well enough
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Grey Templar wrote:
The Riptide can't be a giant death robot, its completely lacking a sword or massive chainsaw. All giant death robots have swords or massive chainsaws. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/30 23:57:14
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Regular Dakkanaut
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:Transdimensional beamer. Why would you ever want to give a jump infantry CC unit a heavy weapon...
Because I like saying "transdimensional beamer" casually in conversations.
I miss vortex grenades. Does anybody still have those? There was nothing like having a Genestealer Magus armed with a vortex grenade totally crap on a bloodthirster. Hilarious every time.
- J
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"Others however will call me the World's Sexiest Killing Machine, that's fun at parties." - Bender Bending Rodriguez
- 3,000 points, and growing!
BFG - 1500 points
WFB Bretonnia - 2200 points (peasant army).
WAB Ancient Israeli (Canaanites) 2500 points
WAB English 100 Years War (3000 points). |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 00:14:10
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Implacable Skitarii
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Taking hellfury missiles on a Vendetta always struck me as really, really silly. Especially since a Valkyrie with rocket pods costs about the same and can keep firing the pods. They aren't quite as good as the hellfury missiles, but they're not one-shot (then again, taking a Valkyrie over a Vendetta is also silly from a competitive standpoint).
Replacing a Chimera's multi-laser with a Heavy Bolter also always struck me as a questionable decision in most circumstances, though I do like the way the bolter turret looks.
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609th Kharkovian 2000pts
Deathwatch 2000pts
Sick Marines 1500pts
Spikey Marines 2000pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 00:21:44
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Flashy Flashgitz
Canberra, Down Under
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Combi-Rokkits on Ork Nobs. Spending points on something that hits once in 3 games... I think I will pass on that one thanks.
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Current Proposed Rules Project: Orkish AC-130 Spekta Gunship!
WAAAGH Sparky!
1400 (ish) - On the rebound!
Kommander Sparks DKoK
1000 (ish) - Now on the backburner
- Men, you're lucky men. Soon, you'll all be fighting for your planet. Many of you will be dying for your planet. A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 03:55:06
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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Ichor blood (CSM). Has it ever been chosen?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 04:00:56
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Sister Vastly Superior
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Condemner boltguns.
They went for possibly broken as all hell to being useless once again in a couple weeks.
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Double Fine Adventure, Wasteland 2, Nekro, Shadowrun Returns, Tropes vs. Women in Video Games, Planetary Annihilation, Project Eternity, Distance, Dreamfall Chapters, Torment: Tides of Numenera, Consortium, Divinity: Original Sin, Smart Guys, Raging Heroes - The Toughest Girls of the Galaxy, Armikrog, Massive Chalice, Satellite Reign, Cthulhu Wars, Warmachine: Tactics, Game Loading: Rise Of The Indies, Indie Statik, Awesomenauts: Starstorm, Cosmic Star Heroine, THE LONG DARK, The Mandate, Stasis, Hand of Fate, Upcycled Machined Dice, Legend of Grimrock: The Series, Unsung Story: Tale of the Guardians, Cyberpunk Soundtracks, Darkest Dungeon, Starcrawlers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 04:16:47
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Putting a searchlight on ANY flyers. Even if it is 1 point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 04:43:22
Subject: Re:List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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5 pts Cybork bodies on 3 pts grots with t2. Though it looks cool. Lil mekanikul grots
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/31 14:21:39
Subject: List of ridiculous and/or pointless wargear...
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Dakka Veteran
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zephoid wrote:
2x catapults or 2x spinners on DA or WS exarchs ( TL BS5... why am i paying for this)
On the Spider Exarch, if he's got fast shot too, that's 3 twin-linked attempts to hit a Flier.
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