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If you play an Eternal War mission and roll "Big Guns never tire" (which makes your heavy support choices scoring) does this only apply to non-tank HS units such as Devastators etc.? Because 6th ed says vehicles never score. Or does the Big Guns Never Tire override this and makes all vehicles in the HS section count as scoring units for this mission?

-edit nevermind, found the rule in the BRB saying vehicles are as well.

Just make sure yo note vehicles do not also become denial units - so a dev squad can score AND deny that predator you rolled up onto their objective, and you dont deny the dev squad

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Just make sure yo note vehicles do not also become denial units - so a dev squad can score AND deny that predator you rolled up onto their objective, and you dont deny the dev squad

And for added hilarity, if your opponents heavy support tank and your heavy support tank are on the same objective, you BOTH get victory points for controlling it, as you both have scoring units within 3" and no enemy denial units within 3". Have fun with that one

 Sir Arun wrote:
If you play an Eternal War mission and roll "Big Guns never tire" (which makes your heavy support choices scoring) does this only apply to non-tank HS units such as Devastators etc.? Because 6th ed says vehicles never score. Or does the Big Guns Never Tire override this and makes all vehicles in the HS section count as scoring units for this mission?

-edit nevermind, found the rule in the BRB saying vehicles are as well.

From memory the only occurence where ist specificaly says that a vehicle never score, is the transport vehicle from a Troop unit.

Of course other vehicles doesn't score because the simple fact that they are not Troops choices.

But if a mission or FoC change , make thos Troops or scoring( like Big Guns never tires), then they can score.

The rules for Big Guns never Tires says that Heavy Support units scores, but nowhere does it say that vehicles in HS still doesn't score.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
If you play an Eternal War mission and roll "Big Guns never tire" (which makes your heavy support choices scoring) does this only apply to non-tank HS units such as Devastators etc.? Because 6th ed says vehicles never score. Or does the Big Guns Never Tire override this and makes all vehicles in the HS section count as scoring units for this mission?

-edit nevermind, found the rule in the BRB saying vehicles are as well.

From memory the only occurence where ist specificaly says that a vehicle never score, is the transport vehicle from a Troop unit.

Of course other vehicles doesn't score because the simple fact that they are not Troops choices.

But if a mission or FoC change , make thos Troops or scoring( like Big Guns never tires), then they can score.

The rules for Big Guns never Tires says that Heavy Support units scores, but nowhere does it say that vehicles in HS still doesn't score.

You remember incorrectly. Vehicles are explicitly NOT scoring or denial units, except in Big Guns / Scouring when they can become Scoring units.

But if they are scoring units, does this not make them automatically denial units?

 cerbrus2 wrote:
But if they are scoring units, does this not make them automatically denial units?

No, why would it? Hvae you read the 6th edition rules, which clearly separate scoring and denial into two different concepts, and then read the mission rules where you only gain Scoring, nothing else?