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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 00:12:12
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Executing Exarch
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Title says it all. Going to write up a review as we go.
Special Rules:
Instinctive Behaviour
Units outside friendly synapse take a leadership test unless they are: engaged in combat, falling back, gone to ground, or arrived from reserve. If failed roll on the appropriate table:
Lurk
1-3 unit falls back
4-5 not effected by difficult terrain, can run, but can only shoot if in area or building, cannot assault
6 same as 4-5 result but has stealth
Hunt
1-3 Immediately goes to ground, units with at least one fearless treat as 4-5 result
4-5 cannot run, must shoot nearest enemy within LOS and range, if no target they do nothing, cannot assault
6 Same as 4-5 but gain preferred enemy
Feed
1-3 immediately suffers a number of hits equal to the number of models in the unit at majority S and ap -, no cover saves, can do nothing until end of its turn, single model units treat it as 4-5 result
4-5 Cannot shoot or run, if it can declare a charge it must against the closest enemy unit. If no target it does nothing
6 Same as 4-5 but gains rage
Synapse
Fearless and auto regroup to all units within 12"
Shadow in the warp
enemy psykers, psychic pilots and brotherhood of psykers within 12" suffer -3 to their Ld (not just psychic tests)
Warlord traits
1: 1 wood, jungle or forest within 12" of the warlord is a carnivorous jungle
2: warlord and all friendly models from nid dex within 12" have night vision
3: Synapse range is 18"
4: Gains 2 VP for each IC killed in a challenge by your warlord, sweeping advance doesn't count
5:after deployment but before infiltrate and scout nominate one piece of terrain in the enemy deployment (can be their own forts) cover is reduced by 1 (min 6+)
6: If warlord suffers a wound it gains FNP for all wounds after
Psychic powers
Primaris: Dominion, +6" to synapse
1. Catalyst, blessing, targets pyskers unit and one unit within 12", FNP
2. The horror, malediction, range 24" Pin test at -2
3. Onslaught, blessing, range 24", can run then shoot
4.Paroxysm, malediction, range 24" roll a D3 and apply deduction to both Ws and Bs to target unit.
5. Psychic scream, Nova, range 6", 2D6+2 minus enemy units Ld, no armour or cover
6. Warp blast WC2 (only one that is WC2) witch fire, range 24" S5 ap3 assault 1 blast, or range 18" S10 ap2 assault 1 lance.
FORCES OF THE HIVE MIND
Hive Tyrant
-Generates powers from the powers of the hive mind table (so no biomancy)
-ML2
-Ws8 Bs4 the rest is the same I believe.
- Hive commander lets one unit outflank
- Indescribable Horror, units taking fear tests roll 3D6 discarding the lowest (good thing half the armies are fearless or are space marines...)
- Old Adversary, Rerolls 1s in combat
- 2 sets of talons standard
Warriors, Shrikes and Prime
- Very Bulky (making bunkerpult less effective)
- Primes Alpha warrior is the same, use his Ws and Bs
- Talons and devourers standard
Gaunts
- Termagants, fleshborer standard, move through cover, lurk
- Hormagaunts, talons and add +3" to run moves, Fleet, move through cover, feed
- Gargoyles, fleshborer, blinding venom, hunt.
- Blinding venom gets a massive nerf, exchange all attacks to make a single s3 poison 6+ ap - blind attack.
Genestealers
- Brood lord is bulky and ML1 and gets the horror.
- Infiltrate, fleet, Move through cover
-Rending claws standard.
Lictors
- Lurk, stealth, fear, hit and run, move through cover, very bulky, deepstrike
- Does not scatter
- Is a locator beacon
Zoanthropes
- ML 2, auto come with warp blast, which is cast once and gets shots equal to the number of models in the squad
- keeps the 3++
-Rolls one additional on Powers of the hive mind
Tyranid Guard
- Bs3 for both
- Very bulky for both
- Tyrant guard have Feed and rending claws.
- Shieldwall lets the Tyrant or Swarmlord auto pass Look out sir
- If tyrant dies they gain rage and furious charge
-Hive guard have impaler cannons and hunt
Venomthrope
- Very bulky, lash whips, toxic miasma, lurk, 2+ poison, shrouded
- Models within 6" are shrouded, shrouded does pass on to full unit as long as one model is covered as per shrouded.
Tervigons (aka Nerfigons)
- All termagant units in 12" get counter attack
- ML1 chooses from Hive powers
- Spawn is done at end of movement, unit cannot move or assault, but can shoot and run. Doubles get cork it.
- Synaptic backlash, its now termagants within 12" not 6" get hits equal to the squad size at S3 ap-
- Does not pass on adrenal or toxin
Raveners
- Very bulky, Feed
Red Terror
- If all its standard (not tail) attacks hit it can choose to swallow, swallows a infantry, jump or jet infantry in base contact, must pass single invulnerable save if it has one, very and extremely bulky infantry cannot be swallowed.
Biovore
- Hunt
- Still needs a baby sitter
- Spore mines are kind of dirty, can get up to S10 (requires 7 mines hitting)
Exocrines
-Exactly as rumoured.
-Hunt
Haruspexes
- Gains wounds back for each wound caused in combat, When it charges it gains an additional attack for each wound caused in combat (these cannot generate more and hammer of wrath, acid blood and tail attacks don't count)
Pyrovores
- No one is going to take them, moving on
Carnifexes
- D3 hammer of wrath
Rippers
- Are rippers
Mawloc
- Can burrow in the movement phase and go into ongoing reserves as long as he is unengaged, cant deepstrike and burrow in the same turn.
- S6 ap2 large blast ignores cover when it deepstrikes on something, lowest level hit in multi floor buildings, wounds from center of blast (awesome btw, things a character and weapon sniper) After resolving blast, try placing the mawloc, if he fits he sits, if not he resolves another blast, if he still cant fit then he mishaps. He can come within 1" but does not move models out of the way.
Trygon
- Basically the same.
Crones
- Vector strike at S8
- T5 W5 Sv4+
- Feed
- Drool Cannon S6 ap4 flamer
- Tenticlids reroll hits against flyers and FMCs, haywire, S5 ap5 (why would you shoot a FMC with these?)
Harpy
- -5 to enemy initiative when charging.
- hunt
Tyrannofexes
- hunt
- Acid spray standard, torrent S6 ap4 flame template
Swarmlord
-18" synapse trait
- Must add +1 to reserve rolls
- Beginning of your turn one friendly Nid dex unit within 18" gets Furious charge, monster hunter or preferred enemy
- ML3 again Nid powers only
- 4++ in combat causes instant death
- Why did he need a nerf? da fack
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This message was edited 10 times. Last update was at 2014/01/11 01:57:15
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 00:14:03
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Is it as bad as the rumour threads have claimed? I'm really surprised GW snapped the Xeno >>> meq trend so harshly. Well, not TOO surprised.
So much for codex creep.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 00:17:27
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Is there any mention of Fortification restrictions? Ie. can they still take them/are they still unable to utilize the guns etc.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 00:31:13
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Executing Exarch
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Eldarain wrote:Is there any mention of Fortification restrictions? Ie. can they still take them/are they still unable to utilize the guns etc.
No restrictions.
Martel732 wrote:Is it as bad as the rumour threads have claimed? I'm really surprised GW snapped the Xeno >>> meq trend so harshly. Well, not TOO surprised.
So much for codex creep.
Its pretty much identical so far
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 00:58:15
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Regular Dakkanaut
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If you do not have assigned warlord trait you can still roll on BRB traits, right?
If yes then thank god as some of these traits are a joke
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:01:36
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Humorless Arbite
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Is the Parasite of Mortrex gone? Also how are the rippers?
Basically I was interested in making a Ripper based army.. how badly has it been screwed?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:01:59
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Can the Mawloc voluntarily burrow still? Or is it one Terror from the Deep and he's done, unless he mishaps?
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:02:59
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So...i have the codex as well, and I'm looking at the Red Terror. It says that a model that is hit 4 times may make a single invulnerable save against the Swallow Whole attack. Does that allow for re-rolls?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:03:41
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Digriz636 wrote:If you do not have assigned warlord trait you can still roll on BRB traits, right?
If yes then thank god as some of these traits are a joke
No. (I have the codex). Definitely codex powers only.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:05:32
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:Digriz636 wrote:If you do not have assigned warlord trait you can still roll on BRB traits, right?
If yes then thank god as some of these traits are a joke
No. (I have the codex). Definitely codex powers only.
Wait, so for example Hive Tyrant as a warlord can't roll on strategic traits or command traits?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:06:15
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Executing Exarch
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Digriz636 wrote:If you do not have assigned warlord trait you can still roll on BRB traits, right?
If yes then thank god as some of these traits are a joke
You are allowed to use the BRB warlord traits. Automatically Appended Next Post: Otto Weston wrote:Is the Parasite of Mortrex gone? Also how are the rippers?
Basically I was interested in making a Ripper based army.. how badly has it been screwed?
Parasite is gone.
Rippers are swarms, so no scoring, and are 13pts a base Automatically Appended Next Post: Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:Digriz636 wrote:If you do not have assigned warlord trait you can still roll on BRB traits, right?
If yes then thank god as some of these traits are a joke
No. (I have the codex). Definitely codex powers only.
He is talking Warlord Traits, not psychic powers
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/01/11 01:07:54
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:08:48
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Eldarain wrote:Can the Mawloc voluntarily burrow still? Or is it one Terror from the Deep and he's done, unless he mishaps?
From the book: An unengaged Mawloc can, at any point during its movement phases from the second game turn onwards, elect to burrow. If it does so, remove it from the table and place it into Ongoing Reserves. A mawlock cannot deep strike and burrow in the same turn.
-that's the rule...verbatim
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:09:53
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Executing Exarch
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Eldarain wrote:Can the Mawloc voluntarily burrow still? Or is it one Terror from the Deep and he's done, unless he mishaps?
As long as he is unengaged he can burrow and go into ongoing reserves. Cant deepstrike and burrow in the same turn
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:10:45
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Oh I dislike that. I dislike that very much...
My Imperial Scanner network might be getting some game time, hooray.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:11:44
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Digriz636 wrote: Hivefleet Oblivion wrote:Digriz636 wrote:If you do not have assigned warlord trait you can still roll on BRB traits, right?
If yes then thank god as some of these traits are a joke
No. (I have the codex). Definitely codex powers only.
Wait, so for example Hive Tyrant as a warlord can't roll on strategic traits or command traits?
Sorry, my bad, as pointed out above, on page 38 it states "a Warlord may... either roll on one of the W T tables in the BRB, or instead roll on the Warlord Traits presented here".
OT: one thing, not pointed out elsewhere, is that there is fluff on Ymgarls and the Doom. There has to be a chance they'll be back in a dataslate.... although a Doom without a pod is like a pizza delivery boy without a moped.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/12/11 16:18:17
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Regular Dakkanaut
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is there any sane reason/rule that we haven't seen yet that explains why rippers are 13ppm?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:19:17
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Scuttling Genestealer
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You dont have to worry about Mawlocs beacuse they will scatter and hit nothing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:20:53
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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although a Doom without a pod is like a pizza delivery boy without a moped.
Our pizza delivery boys here tend to drive cars. Could this mean the Doom gets its own MC transport?
Like a Biotitan?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:22:15
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Executing Exarch
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Kinda of surprised over the venomthrope nerf. Models not units get shrouded. LAAAAAAAAAAAME
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:23:09
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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If a model in a unit has shrouded don't they all get it? Like how Cypher passes it to his unit.
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:23:54
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Calculating Commissar
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So nids just lost their only source of EW?
Time to start IDing some bugs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:24:20
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Scuttling Genestealer
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THERE IS NO POD FOR ANYTHING there is no way across the board but to use the mawloc trygon tunnel
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:29:08
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Ravenous D wrote:Kinda of surprised over the venomthrope nerf. Models not units get shrouded. LAAAAAAAAAAAME
Models within six inches get the Shrouded rule. "All friendly models ...within 6" of at least one venomthrope have the Shrouded special rule."
Models with the Shrouded rule pass it o to their unit. ("A unit that contains one model with this special rule counts its cover save as being 2 points better than normal", BRB).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:29:31
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Executing Exarch
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Eldarain wrote:If a model in a unit has shrouded don't they all get it? Like how Cypher passes it to his unit.
That's true, so they do all get it.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:30:46
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Ravenous D wrote: Eldarain wrote:If a model in a unit has shrouded don't they all get it? Like how Cypher passes it to his unit.
That's true, so they do all get it.
So conga lines stretching across the table leading back to the hidden Venomthropes for the win?
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BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:32:22
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Executing Exarch
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Hivefleet Oblivion wrote: Ravenous D wrote:Kinda of surprised over the venomthrope nerf. Models not units get shrouded. LAAAAAAAAAAAME
Models within six inches get the Shrouded rule. "All friendly models ...within 6" of at least one venomthrope have the Shrouded special rule."
Models with the Shrouded rule pass it o to their unit. ("A unit that contains one model with this special rule counts its cover save as being 2 points better than normal", BRB).
They could have just used Unit and not Models. Oh well.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:33:48
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Calculating Commissar
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Can we get a summary of the Bio-Artifacts? I am curious to see what they did as an armory for nids.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:35:25
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Agile Revenant Titan
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theyre all very underwhelming. some look decent till you see the price.
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I do drugs.
Mostly Plastic Crack, but I do dabble in Cardboard Cocaine. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:40:59
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Been Around the Block
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the maw claw of thyrax
S user ap5, melee, assimilate, rending
-the model wielding this weapon when kills a model he gains preferred enemy vs models of that codex
Te norn crown
adds 6" to synapse
The miasma cannon
36" S1 ap4, assault 1 blast poison (2+)
or
Template S1 ap4 assault 1 poison(2+)
The ymgarl factor
assault you choose to have:
+1a or
+1S or
+1 armour save
can´t repeate the same buff two consecutive turns
reaper of obliterax
S+1 ap3 , melee, lifedrain, shred, swiftstrike
life drain: 6s to wound cause ID
swiftstride; +3 I
shred you know it
basically a lashwhip and bonesword with shred rule that cost +25pts
minimum cost same order (10/40/25 /40/45)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/11 01:41:47
Subject: I have the Nid dex. Ask away
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Calculating Commissar
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Cool, so nothing that adds eternal warrior. Awesome.
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