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First we have this:

https://bible.org/article/will-israel-build-temple-jerusalem

Then we have this:

http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/finally-israel-officially-calling-for-third-temple-to-replace-al-aqsa-mosque


http://www.timesofisrael.com/minister-calls-for-third-temple-to-be-built/

Whether you believe the bible or not, if this gains any momentum you can plan on battening the hatches.

I'm all for it, if we can build a wall around the entire area. Its like the entire region's sole purpose is to invent new ways to feth each other over.


Kind of like law school.

If they want to build a temple in Jerusalem then let them built it.


It's not like it is going to cause the rise of the Second Jewish Empire or anything. Regardless of what the bible may say.

The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

 Frazzled wrote:
The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

Those problems are going to happen no matter what. Muslims get offended if you draw a picture, write a book, sing a song, watch TV, wear the wrong thing...might as well knock down their temple while we're at it...at least then they'll have something legitimate to cry about for once.

 Frazzled wrote:
The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

This is why Religions need to learn to get on with each other. The world would be a much nicer place. I wouldn't see the problem of building it next to the mosque.


On the flip side, Christianity had to deal with the Hagia Sophia becoming a mosque.

Building right next to it will still offend the more extremists. Their simple existence is enough for many to take up arms.

 welshhoppo wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

This is why Religions need to learn to get on with each other. The world would be a much nicer place. I wouldn't see the problem of building it next to the mosque.


On the flip side, Christianity had to deal with the Hagia Sophia becoming a mosque.

You're missing what its saying. Its saying tear down the Mosque and put up the temple.

The Al Aqsa Mosque is the 3rd most important in Islam. Now the Wailing Wall is the First for Jews, but there is no temple. Judging by the site its just right wing (left wing, some wing!) nonsense.

Here's a novel idea for the region. Why don't we just leave each other the hell alone?

Turn the entire area into radioactive glass. If you can't play nice and share, the toys get taken away.

 Frazzled wrote:
Here's a novel idea for the region. Why don't we just leave each other the hell alone?

Because that's logical and makes sense, and I think we can all agree that the world could do without logic and sense.

 Frazzled wrote:
You're missing what its saying. Its saying tear down the Mosque and put up the temple.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this would seem like an OK idea. "Well, your stuff is less important to you (in my opinion) than the stuff I want, so I'm going destroy your stuff" doesn't seem like a particularly good approach to deciding to trash a building that's stood for almost a thousand years.

Ok there are several, relgious problems with the third temple.

1. You would need to remove the Al Aqsa mosque.
Destroying any mosque is a problem Israel tries to avoid, but the Al Aqsa mosque is no ordinary mosque but the third holiest shrine in Islam.
This will cause big ruptions with Islamics.

2. We dont know exactly where the temple is supposed to be, and its position is supposed to be exact.
This will cause big ruptions with some Jews.

3. The third temple is where the 'abomination that causes desolation will stand' and signifies the end times.
This will cause big ruptions with some some right wing Christians, others will love it.

4. It is not known if Israel actually has enough gold for the temple roof.

5. Temple officiaries must be provably from the correct tribe to officiate., this has been difficult since 79AD.
The surname Levi is no proof of itself that one is a Levite.


Now it is often commented upon that Israel has been secretly accebling temple paraphernalia for some time, and most years at the 'appointed time' right wing religious Jews enter the temple mount with intention to place the foundation stone of the third temple, to be blocked by Israeli police.

This is a massive issue in religious circles, as big as it gets really. Israel knows this and has long been backpedaling.

However that being said this is likely just the personal wet dream of a loudmouth minister and not Israeli policy. I can see why Netanyahu et al would want someone from the religious right as Minister of Housing and Construction, it means they have a fanatic hardliner in charge of settlement building.
That does mean that he might go off on a loose cannon tirade from time to time.

 Ouze wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
You're missing what its saying. Its saying tear down the Mosque and put up the temple.

Yeah, I'm not sure why this would seem like an OK idea. "Well, your stuff is less important to you (in my opinion) than the stuff I want, so I'm going destroy your stuff" doesn't seem like a particularly good approach to deciding to trash a building that's stood for almost a thousand years.

If they tore it down I would feel offended because of the damage to an ancient building. We have enough ruins without adding more to the pile.

If I may suggest an alternative, perhaps Detroit? I think they can knock down pretty much whatever they want there.

 Orlanth wrote:
Ok there are several, relgious problems with the third temple.

1. You would need to remove the Al Aqsa mosque.
Destroying any mosque is a problem Israel tries to avoid, but the Al Aqsa mosque is no ordinary mosque but the third holiest shrine in Islam.
This will cause big ruptions with Islamics.

2. We dont know exactly where the temple is supposed to be, and its position is supposed to be exact.
This will cause big ruptions with some Jews.

3. The third temple is where the 'abomination that causes desolation will stand' and signifies the end times.
This will cause big ruptions with some some right wing Christians, others will love it.

4. It is not known if Israel actually has enough gold for the temple roof.

5. Temple officiaries must be provably from the correct tribe to officiate., this has been difficult since 79AD.
The surname Levi is no proof of itself that one is a Levite.


Now it is often commented upon that Israel has been secretly accebling temple paraphernalia for some time, and most years at the 'appointed time' right wing religious Jews enter the temple mount with intention to place the foundation stone of the third temple, to be blocked by Israeli police.

This is a massive issue in religious circles, as big as it gets really. Israel knows this and has long been backpedaling.

However that being said this is likely just the personal wet dream of a loudmouth minister and not Israeli policy. I can see why Netanyahu et al would want someone from the religious right as Minister of Housing and Construction, it means they have a fanatic hardliner in charge of settlement building.
That does mean that he might go off on a loose cannon tirade from time to time.

Whats all that? Why do they have to build the Third Temple there? Illuminate me!

 Frazzled wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Ok there are several, relgious problems with the third temple.

1. You would need to remove the Al Aqsa mosque.
Destroying any mosque is a problem Israel tries to avoid, but the Al Aqsa mosque is no ordinary mosque but the third holiest shrine in Islam.
This will cause big ruptions with Islamics.

2. We dont know exactly where the temple is supposed to be, and its position is supposed to be exact.
This will cause big ruptions with some Jews.

3. The third temple is where the 'abomination that causes desolation will stand' and signifies the end times.
This will cause big ruptions with some some right wing Christians, others will love it.

4. It is not known if Israel actually has enough gold for the temple roof.

5. Temple officiaries must be provably from the correct tribe to officiate., this has been difficult since 79AD.
The surname Levi is no proof of itself that one is a Levite.


Now it is often commented upon that Israel has been secretly accebling temple paraphernalia for some time, and most years at the 'appointed time' right wing religious Jews enter the temple mount with intention to place the foundation stone of the third temple, to be blocked by Israeli police.

This is a massive issue in religious circles, as big as it gets really. Israel knows this and has long been backpedaling.

However that being said this is likely just the personal wet dream of a loudmouth minister and not Israeli policy. I can see why Netanyahu et al would want someone from the religious right as Minister of Housing and Construction, it means they have a fanatic hardliner in charge of settlement building.
That does mean that he might go off on a loose cannon tirade from time to time.

Whats all that? Why do they have to build the Third Temple there? Illuminate me!

To my understanding, it's the site of the first two temples.

Right but why do they have to build the Third Temple there. Why not some other place like Omaha?

Of course, the thing sits near a fault line, as I understand it. Might not need to be knocked down by human agency. If an Earthquake gets it, the place will be up for grabs.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125277#.UvK2fsu9KSM



http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/klu/jose/2005/00000009/00000003/00008183



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 Frazzled wrote:
Right but why do they have to build the Third Temple there. Why not some other place like Omaha?

Because it's believed the Ark of the Covenent, some candlesticks Moses crafted, and the shattered tablets containing the 10 commandments are there.(not joking). All that aside, it's the holiest place on the planet to the Jews.

Where? Under the rubble somewhere? I thought the Romans carted all that stuff off.


If not, wouldn't it be kinda blasphemous to disturb the existing remains?

Joke question Frazzie?

The Temple of Jerusalem has to be built on the land purchased by King David for the purpose, on the site where the temple of Melchizedek was supposed to stand in the Holy City, of Jerusalem.

Besides:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicas_of_the_Jewish_Temple

If you want a 'replica' there are already plenty to choose from.

 Frazzled wrote:
Where? Under the rubble somewhere? I thought the Romans carted all that stuff off.


If not, wouldn't it be kinda blasphemous to disturb the existing remains?

Clearly we need an old priest er rabbi, and a young rabbi to help us out here.

i still think Israel should just move to McAllen. Lets grouchy neighbors and the food is better.

Relapse wrote:


Because it's believed the Ark of the Covenant, some candlesticks Moses crafted, and the shattered tablets containing the 10 commandments are there.(not joking). All that aside, it's the holiest place on the planet to the Jews.

According to reports of where the Ark is, it is resting in a very significant place of itself, directly under one of the candidate sites for Golgotha.
I am prepared to believe the Ark is hidden in Jerusalem, the events of its disappearance link up and there are lots of old collapsed tunnels.

The story has spawned interesting testimonies also.

What? Clarify?

 Frazzled wrote:
Where? Under the rubble somewhere? I thought the Romans carted all that stuff off.


If not, wouldn't it be kinda blasphemous to disturb the existing remains?

There's been a crapton of artifacts taken from under there, but the digskeep getting shut down withthe Muslims taking offense to having ground dug out from under one of their holiest of sites. The whole situation gets a bit tenser when a cabinet minister calls publically for a demolition of the place followed by a temple being put up. Over the years, there have been similar calls, but Idon't know of one from someone that high in the government.



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This is fairly significant, also. The 10th Red Heifer

http://www.discoverrevelation.com/43.html

Gah, far to religious for my liking.

 Frazzled wrote:
The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

Ehh, just crash a jumbo jet into it... if the hijackers are Jewish, then we can build a temple on the site as a memorial to all the other Peace Loving Jews out there to worship

 Frazzled wrote:
The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

I say they should compromise by building an extension on the Mosque's roof. Problem solved.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

Ehh, just crash a jumbo jet into it... if the hijackers are Jewish, then we can build a temple on the site as a memorial to all the other Peace Loving Jews out there to worship

This joke is in such bad taste I don't even know what to say. Not to mention the fact there never was a mosque built on the site of the twin towers....


I still laughed though so

 Alexzandvar wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
The problem is, if they want to build the Third Temple on top of the Mosque.

Thats going to create some problems...

Ehh, just crash a jumbo jet into it... if the hijackers are Jewish, then we can build a temple on the site as a memorial to all the other Peace Loving Jews out there to worship

This joke is in such bad taste I don't even know what to say. Not to mention the fact there never was a mosque built on the site of the twin towers....


I still laughed though so

I know... but they were/are putting a mosque "close" to the site, which, depending on your chosen news source, was a big deal a while back.

That whole area is just a depressing future crater. Let them do whatever they want.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
at least then they'll have something legitimate to cry about for once.

Having their land stolen and encroached on is nothing after all.