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In an effort to show the stupidity of those "feel good" gun laws that were passed in the wake of Sandy Hook, some manufactures are changing the AR-15 and making it legal again.
Charles C. W. Cooke wrote:Manufacturers Change Look of AR-15; Rifle Is Now Legal in New York State
Pass a stupid law, get a stupid result. This, Clash Daily reports, is a remodeled AR-15, and it is legal in New York despite the state’s “assault weapons” ban:
When the opponents of “assault weapon” bans argue that it is preposterous for the state to ban firearms based on the way they look, they really mean it. It is. The rifle in the photograph above is no more or less powerful than the one that has been banned; it just looks different. And, because the SAFE Act was, typically, interested only in cosmetic questions, a simple change to its aesthetic rendered the rifle legal once more. As Clash Daily’s Jonathan S. explains:
Jonathan S. wrote: Prototypes for the newly designed AR-15 are hitting gun shops across New York, as gun shops and machinists have designed a rifle that complies with the anti-gun law. At least one gun shop has received a letter from state police saying that the new AR-15 style rifles should be legal in the state as long as they don’t have some of the features that the law prohibits.
The new gun law bans all kinds of semi-automatic rifles that have been labeled with the “assault” term even though these are very common rifles and are no more powerful than the average hunting rifle.
Features like adjustable stocks, pistols grips, and flash suppressors has been deemed to be unlawful on these rifles, mainly because it makes them LOOK mean. And we all know how little these anti-gun lawmakers really know about guns, as the “Ghost gun” video illustrated.
The new AR-15 design did away with the pistol grip which gives the gun an odd paintball gun look. The stock is fixed as well, but at least New Yorkers now have a legal way to own an AR-15, a fact which is still driving some gun control activists mad.
Reading this story, one would almost conclude that legislation that deals only with the superficial and the irrelevant is inherently silly. Curious.
This is a ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
Seaward wrote: This is a ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
IMO it's a very effective law. Who is going to be willing to own such a shamefully ugly gun?
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Seaward wrote: This is a ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
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Seaward wrote: This is a ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
Seaward wrote: This is a ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
are you trolling?
I'm quoting.
video wont play for me, I'm at work right now, computers here are the worst of the awful.
Are you quoting as in you agree these are the appropriate terms? or just quoting to make fun?
Dreadclaw69 wrote: This is what happens when people who do not know the subject matter are allowed to make legislation concerning said matter.
It's what happens when the law forbids gun control and people try to achieve something by workarounds, and then the workarounds are worked around.
So-called "assault" weapons could easily be dispensed with by banning self-loading weapons. People would still be able to have revolvers, shotguns and bolt-action rifles. These are certainly good enough for target shooting, hunting and home defence.
Kilkrazy wrote: It's what happens when the law forbids gun control and people try to achieve something by workarounds, and then the workarounds are worked around.
So-called "assault" weapons could easily be dispensed with by banning self-loading weapons. People would still be able to have revolvers, shotguns and bolt-action rifles. These are certainly good enough for target shooting, hunting and home defence.
Dreadclaw69 wrote: This is what happens when people who do not know the subject matter are allowed to make legislation concerning said matter.
It's what happens when the law forbids gun control and people try to achieve something by workarounds, and then the workarounds are worked around.
So-called "assault" weapons could easily be dispensed with by banning self-loading weapons. People would still be able to have revolvers, shotguns and bolt-action rifles. These are certainly good enough for target shooting, hunting and home defence.
And what would you suggest we do with all the legally purchased self-loading weapons we'd still have in circulation after such a law was passed?
Clearly, those would become ghost guns. Those right there have the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
Seaward wrote: Clearly, those would become ghost guns. Those right there have the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
This time around it made me chuckle. When I saw that video my brain leaked from my ear I think. But I'm almost certain that some California rifles have been made similar to that for years now.
Dreadclaw69 wrote: This is what happens when people who do not know the subject matter are allowed to make legislation concerning said matter.
It's what happens when the law forbids gun control and people try to achieve something by workarounds, and then the workarounds are worked around.
So-called "assault" weapons could easily be dispensed with by banning self-loading weapons. People would still be able to have revolvers, shotguns and bolt-action rifles. These are certainly good enough for target shooting, hunting and home defence.
And what would you suggest we do with all the legally purchased self-loading weapons we'd still have in circulation after such a law was passed?
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Isn't a ten round Ruger Mini14, M1A, and good old SKS compliant? Am I missing something?
Considering the cartels are active in SC, its and incredibly stupid law.
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I always like the law that prohibits a rifle that has the ability to attatch a bayonet. If someone was pointing a rifle at me, I believe one of the last things I would be worried about is a bayonet charge.
Seaward wrote: This is a ghost gun. This right here has the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
are you trolling?
You never saw that video, did you?
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Seaward wrote: Clearly, those would become ghost guns. Those right there have the ability with a .30-caliber clip to disperse with 30 bullets within half a second. Thirty magazine clip in half a second.
This time around it made me chuckle. When I saw that video my brain leaked from my ear I think. But I'm almost certain that some California rifles have been made similar to that for years now.
Don't forget the NY legal magazines as well guys!
It even doubles as a bipod attachment!
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Damn SAFE Act. Single handedly sank my ambitions to get stationed at Ft. Drum. I had to leave firearms behind when I moved to Japan. I am not leaving firearms behind because I am moving within my own damn country. It's a shame, I had a lot of extended family in that region.
Dreadclaw69 wrote: This is what happens when people who do not know the subject matter are allowed to make legislation concerning said matter.
It's what happens when the law forbids gun control and people try to achieve something by workarounds, and then the workarounds are worked around.
So-called "assault" weapons could easily be dispensed with by banning self-loading weapons. People would still be able to have revolvers, shotguns and bolt-action rifles. These are certainly good enough for target shooting, hunting and home defence.
And what would you suggest we do with all the legally purchased self-loading weapons we'd still have in circulation after such a law was passed?
Gun amnesty.
I'm sure that would work just wonderfully in the US.
Yes the fact that some legislators made themselves look stupid proves that forever anyone advocating tighter gun laws is naught but a twit themselves!
I absolutely can assure you if the so called experts on "guns" worked more with the people legislating we would have a lot less of this kind of thing happening, this is merely just another symptom of the utter lack of cooperation in politics.
The NRA refuses to work with anyone who dares even suggest a better more organized background check system (Even though they advocated it after Colombine, oh how things change huehuehe), so how in the mother of feth are we supposed to yknow, get the "gun" people and the legislators to sit down hmmm?
Also I love how people say that we can't pass gun legislation against self loading weapons because the government would have to get confiscate them, and that's not possible despite the fact, that it totally is, since mass recalls on products are regularly carried out by corporations with a lot less manpower the the government.
But please continue to rant about how guns are the single most important issue ever, and how by being an ass in favor of guns make you any better than an ass who's not in favor of guns.
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Alexzandvar wrote: Yes the fact that some legislators made themselves look stupid proves that forever anyone advocating tighter gun laws is naught but a twit themselves!
I absolutely can assure you if the so called experts on "guns" worked more with the people legislating we would have a lot less of this kind of thing happening, this is merely just another symptom of the utter lack of cooperation in politics.
Experts on guns have no incentive to work with the anti-gun legislators. If you know X amount about guns, you cease buying into the relentlessly ill-informed bs they peddle.
are you trolling?
