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Daemon Prince, there's literally no negative side of being a Mortal-Turned Daemon if you simply go along happily with it. And since they count as their own race, I don't have to worry about being a grunt but a lord of chaos with my own private army.
“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
Tau, farsight enclaves. Quality of life is not too bad, considering. Working towards a positive goal, no presence to be tormented in the warp, have a chance to affect things positively. Life span is not an issue since I doubt most imperial citizens live past 40
Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Well I don't think the battle company would do much to bolster the ranks of my eldar army so no.
Nonsense. The Battle Company box is perfect for filling out your ranks of aspect warriors with a large contingent from the Screaming Baldies shrine.
Bobthehero wrote: Death Korps Grenadier, for the reasons I mentionned in the last thread.
Why the hell would you choose a guy that has the life expectancy of a week compared to something that will spend all of eternity rife with happiness and pleasure as a Daemon Prince of Slaanesh?
“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
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- Men, you're lucky men. Soon, you'll all be fighting for your planet. Many of you will be dying for your planet. A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for your planet. They will be the luckiest of all.
As much as I despise the race, a New style Necron, effectively immortal, and if I get even reduced to atoms, I can be fixed and be good to go again in a minute or two.
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A human perpetual that looks exactly how I do now in real life. All the girl action I can handle for the rest of time, frozen in my prime.
Other than a human? PLEASE biotransfer me in to a Necron body who belongs to a Royal Court. We get high-end models to live in for eternity, and our personalities, ambitions, experiences, and memories are all transferred over intact. I will see entire civilizations rise and fall through natural time passage, spend millennia watching Crypteks do a single calculation in the Celestial Orrery which culminates in the waving of a hand to end a star system. All of the wonders in the galaxy for me to experience and bear witness to!
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Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
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Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
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“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
Adeptus Astartes and to be more precise, A space wolf. Because I do love to make my own decisions, and not dance to the tune of the Inqusition or some musty old book
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
It's still a interpretation. Show me where is says that every soul gets torched by daemons when they die.
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Ah, didn't think of that, well then if there's a proper source (who's to say demon worshippers don't make a few things or three to convice people to follow them) that shows that your soul either enter oblivion or get nommed by demons 100% of the time, then I'll stick with the oblivion thing.
Otherwise I'll stick with the Emperor thing and damn what some guy on the internet thinks about that.
Bobthehero wrote: Because the 40k universe is an absolute gak-hole of a universe, so I am taking the option to get out of it really fast.
While looking quite dashing!
Dying as a human in W40K simply leads to you being ripped and your consiouness destroyed and plunged into oblivion, or daemons taking an interest in you and deciding that ripping your soul into ribbons will be entertaining for the next eternity.
Meanwhile, there's no downside to being a daemon prince and willingly go along with joining Chaos and having your soul exalted by the Chaos Gods to spend eternity as a minor god.
That's your interpretation, to me you go with whoever you worshipped, so to the Emperor with my soul
And either way, I want to stay human, its silly but that's that.
No, that's not my "interpretation", there is nothing suggesting the Emperor protects those who worship him, or if he simply devours them as well like any other warp god. There's "interpretation of fluff" and then there's "making gak up".
It's still a interpretation. Show me where is says that every soul gets torched by daemons when they die.
In The First Heretic as well as in Betrayer. In 40k there is no afterlife but torment and eventual hellish oblivion. That's part of the true grimness of the setting, because there's no real escape from it.
Which is why I say Dark Eldar! That's pretty much the only way to be immortal, and thus avoid all that happy horsecrap. Sure, I have to feed on the misery of people around me, but that's okay. I'll take that as an alternative to having my psyche ripped to shreds by demons after I die.
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Bobthehero wrote: Both books are before the Emperor is put on the throne, keep that in mind.
If anything, wouldn't he be stronger before being put on the throne?
That being said, there has still never been a single piece of fluff that indicates the Emperor gives any kind of afterlife protection to his faithful. I'm all about the 'everything is permitted, nothing is true' approach to canon that 40k has, but that particular theory has never come up from a reliable source in any scenario in-universe. (That I'm aware of, at any rate.)
That's fine, you can believe whatever you want about the fluff. I for one believe several things which the fluff NEVER directly supports at all. (Angron was the smartest of the Primarchs, the Emperor was actually a vat-grown psychic puppet and Malcador the Sigilite was the REAL Emperor, and a few others.) Just so long as we are up-front about what IS supported by the fluff and what isn't. (We don't want to mislead other users who might take our personal interpretations as observations based on evidence.)
As to the specific theory (the Emperor protecting souls after they die) it is an interesting one, but I don't know how much I like it in this setting. 40k, to me, is supposed to be ultimately depressing. You can carve out brief moments of happiness, but you have to know it's all going to end in tragedy. I think something that might be true, and which might be similar, is that individuals who are devout enough (Adeptas Sororitas certainly, but the lay worshipper probably not) would be able to essentially obliviate their own souls after death. Evaporation into nothingness with a peaceful thought of the Emperor's 'benevolence' is probably the absolute BEST I can see anyone hoping for.
I think part of the problem (at least to my own mind) is that it's also important that the Emperor be slaved to the Golden Throne. After all his hard work, all his struggles, the only thing it amounted to was him becoming the EXACT thing he didn't want: a figure of worship. He's probably even aware of it, on some level (that makes it so much more horrible) but the entirety of his mental energy is required just to keep the lights on, in a galactic sense. Mind-bogglingly horrible, that. And that's what makes it a perfect cornerstone of the franchise.
Desubot wrote: I dont think daemon is really a race nor do i think you had a choice in rankings.
For greatest happiness id be an ork.
Realistically probably a tau. with preference to earth caste but will take any.
There is no difference between Daemons and races made from things other than warp material, they're both life, albeit manifesting in different forms as daemons are entities that take material forms. Also, I'm just exploiting the OP, as a Daemon Prince is a unique organism separate from normal daemons or chaos astartes/humans as they're a symbiotic life-form.
"Better to rule in hell then serve in heaven"
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“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.”
so no.
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That's pretty much the only way to be immortal, and thus avoid all that happy horsecrap. Sure, I have to feed on the misery of people around me, but that's okay. I'll take that as an alternative to having my psyche ripped to shreds by demons after I die.
