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Oldenburg, Germany

okay, i am just going to throw this in here.

i know of several people who have built 40k sized spacecraft (one 40k sized ork spaceship appeared on games day somewhere, know that one definitely).

but.
has anyone ever had the idea of scratchbuilding a 40k sized battleship? i mean, not spacecraft, but yamato style sea battleship?
if yes, tell me about it! i want to hear about it/see it!


and now, tell me what you think of the idea of a 40k USS Iowa style Imperial Battleship, roughly 3 metres (about ten feet) long, battling with ork submarines, patrol boats and fliers.
because two friends and i are planning exactly that....
too insane? or shall i do it? could start this summer.....

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Sounds like a great idea however not seen it done before (probley because orks are ... Not 'kleva' enough to know what water is) but I really hope to see you doing one soon good luck

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 Masonork218 wrote:
however not seen it done before (probley because orks are ... Not 'kleva' enough to know what water is)


well, orkimedes did know how to build ork submarines (cf. battle for armageddon, battle for hive helsreach!), and there even are rules for them in 1st ed apoc. together with the fliers and the fact those subs can be built out of plastic bottles, i think its going to be a fair fight

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Well better get too it then and put orkimedes on the front 'sailing it ' to keep to the fluff again this is something I'm really exited for
   
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Oldenburg, Germany

 Masonork218 wrote:
Well better get too it then and put orkimedes on the front 'sailing it ' to keep to the fluff again this is something I'm really exited for


we plan to adhere to the fluff more than you think. it all will be a larger thing, we will reenact the entire ork landing on hive helsreach in the third battle for armageddon, with ork subs and landing craft landing ork troops, and a beachhead defended by Steel Legion and PDF forces.

yes, you heard it.

D-DAY 40K.

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Oldenburg, Germany

actually, just found this, i am not the only one with that kind of idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHMVL8aHYC4

its the orky version of the "40k battleship" idea, very impressing model by forum member wazzoo2000.
battle between him and me once i am done, anyone? lol

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Go for it!I wish I still lived in Germany I would flock to help lol best of luck with everything I am currently in the process of making steel legion out of the ww2 fallshirmjager kits very close in resemblance id say and pretty minimal green stuff to do and they have more poses! I am actually thinking about doing a similar project now I just love the steel legion and fluff and cant go wrong with a propa waaagh
   
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Here is my SM Ship project;
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/577234.page
.
Will be sectional;
Turrets and Bridge will be mounted on a 12" x 12" flat deck bases, so they can be removed and used as separate pieces of terrain.
The interior rectangle decks will be removable and will line up in different patterns; T, S, L, etc...
The sides; engines, and gun batteries will be removeable to be used as walls...
.
Will also fit on a standard 4' x 6' game table.
.
Here is a cool link, but the scale is 1/285 (tiny) http://store.gcmshop.com/c/132/ships.
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You are not insane, just figure out if you want it to look BFG or not, I say not... Good Luck!
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Just post pictures please. This sounds amazing and would be crazy to see.
   
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rexscarlet wrote:
Here is my SM Ship project;
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/577234.page
.
Will be sectional;
Turrets and Bridge will be mounted on a 12" x 12" flat deck bases, so they can be removed and used as separate pieces of terrain.
The interior rectangle decks will be removable and will line up in different patterns; T, S, L, etc...
The sides; engines, and gun batteries will be removeable to be used as walls...
.
Will also fit on a standard 4' x 6' game table.
.
Here is a cool link, but the scale is 1/285 (tiny) http://store.gcmshop.com/c/132/ships.
.
You are not insane, just figure out if you want it to look BFG or not, I say not... Good Luck!
.


looks nice, also cool idea.
however, i point out again: mine will be a SEA battleship, not a SPACE battleship
will look like an IG version of the US Iowa class WWII battleships.


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 Kroothawk wrote:
Isn't a battleship quite obsolete when you can cut it in half from orbit?


are you really talking about something being OBSOLETE in the warhammer 40k universe? a universe in which the main battle tank of the humans is a friggin tractor with guns and armour strapped to it, where the spaceships are built as 5km CATHEDRALS, where drowning and enemy in troops instead of nuking from orbit is considered a viable tactic, where "new" technology (means "dug up after 8,000 years of missing") needs roughly 250-300 years before being sanctioned and allowed to use, where just starting up an engine needs a 6-hour religious ritual?

okay, sorry, back to the point:
well, you might think that it wouldn't be useful, but as it is even stated in the fluff that armageddon had a fleet, and the "helsreach naval defense fleet" is particularly mentioned, i think my idea of a 40k navy battleship is still very viable

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 FistusMaximus wrote:
actually, just found this, i am not the only one with that kind of idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHMVL8aHYC4

its the orky version of the "40k battleship" idea, very impressing model by forum member wazzoo2000.
battle between him and me once i am done, anyone? lol


That's Dakka Dakka's own wazzoo2000 Ork ship and awesome indeed it is...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/426770.page

Another amazing build is the Athena from Klaus, not Santa. While not an ocean going battle cruiser, it could easily been seen as such...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1230/310208.page#5883955

   
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Oldenburg, Germany

wow, haven't come across the floating ship of Klaus before... some nice work, and gave me some inspiration, thanks for the link, Ruglud!

one key difference between the ships of waz and Klaus compared to mine is: theirs are just for the modeling and showcasing, while mine is actually really intended for gameplay!
hence, it will be a waterlined model (unlike waz's, which has a complete underbelly and has a display stand, Klaus's does not count here as its a skimmer anyways ).

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"One of the big reasons the 40k world is so insane is that every faction needs to be able, in canon, to fight every other faction, including itself."
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Armageddon Steel Legion 3,500 Points
PDF Vendoran 3,500 Points
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Pittsboro NC (Raleigh)

"however, i point out again: mine will be a SEA battleship, not a SPACE battleship and will look like an IG version of the US Iowa class WWII battleships."
.
Yes, I read that, I was just showing you my thoughts and ideas, not hard to add a waterline hull to my Ship (just remove the rear sides that are sticking out).
.
I would make it sectional, if you want to game on it, or move it.
.
I did put a link to a SEA ship kit in 1/285.
.
I was on the Iowa in the late 1980's, before they decommissioned it, very cool.
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Here are some awesome examples in 1/72, so you can see size realism;
http://www.carrierbuilders.net/gallery/20070318_USS_Enterprise_1-72/20070318_USS_Enterprise_1-72.htm
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal3/2401-2500/Gal2418_Aircraft-carrier_Daniel/00.shtm
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Here is a 1/48 scale (40K is close to this), it is a 30 foot by 6 foot diorama, (about the same size as a Battleship)
.
One builder had to knock down a wall in his house to move his carrier to a museum.
.
Here is a great link for sizes and shapes; http://www.military-today.com/navy.htm
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PICTURES!
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Oldenburg, Germany

rexscarlet wrote:
"however, i point out again: mine will be a SEA battleship, not a SPACE battleship and will look like an IG version of the US Iowa class WWII battleships."
.
Yes, I read that, I was just showing you my thoughts and ideas, not hard to add a waterline hull to my Ship (just remove the rear sides that are sticking out).
.
I would make it sectional, if you want to game on it, or move it.
.
I did put a link to a SEA ship kit in 1/285.
.
I was on the Iowa in the late 1980's, before they decommissioned it, very cool.
.
Here are some awesome examples in 1/72, so you can see size realism;
http://www.carrierbuilders.net/gallery/20070318_USS_Enterprise_1-72/20070318_USS_Enterprise_1-72.htm
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal3/2401-2500/Gal2418_Aircraft-carrier_Daniel/00.shtm
.
Here is a 1/48 scale (40K is close to this), it is a 30 foot by 6 foot diorama, (about the same size as a Battleship)
.
One builder had to knock down a wall in his house to move his carrier to a museum.
.
Here is a great link for sizes and shapes; http://www.military-today.com/navy.htm
.
PICTURES!
.



-sections: yup, i definitely will build it in sections, not sure yet in how many though (i am in the detail plannig phase, currently reworking a rough sketch i made)

-link: umm... well, your link did not work, so i could not know

-scale: well, i will not go by scale, i will just take the gun layout of the Iowa class, swap the weapons for 40k counterparts, and see how long the ship will be with these.

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Pittsboro NC (Raleigh)

--link: umm... well, your link did not work, so i could not know .
.
http://store.gcmshop.com/
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click 1/285th scale, then scroll down to bottom; "Ships"
.


 
   
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Oldenburg, Germany

rexscarlet wrote:

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http://store.gcmshop.com/
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click 1/285th scale, then scroll down to bottom; "Ships"
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okay, that worked... somebody needs to convert one of the "wasp" ships to 40k

and yeah, that thing compares to how big mine will be

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"One of the big reasons the 40k world is so insane is that every faction needs to be able, in canon, to fight every other faction, including itself."
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Armageddon Steel Legion 3,500 Points
PDF Vendoran 3,500 Points
Fi'rios Sept Stealth Army: 2,500 Points

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I was going to take an old PT model I had to make an IG patrol boat. But after seeing how small it was, it would be a really small patrol boat.

I have wanted to make a navy for my IG though.

   
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Pittsboro NC (Raleigh)

okay, that worked... somebody needs to convert one of the "wasp" ships to 40k
.
Did you click that kids link I posted? He made an amphib (I was on the Tarawa as well)...


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sparkywtf wrote:
I was going to take an old PT model I had to make an IG patrol boat. But after seeing how small it was, it would be a really small patrol boat.

I have wanted to make a navy for my IG though.

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This make a good size guard boat, 1/35 is a little big, but the price is right... http://www.megahobby.com/usnavyvietnampbr31mkii-pibber1-35tamiya.aspx


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FOUND IT 1/48 scale perfect for 40K;
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LNDDMY


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there are several groups that build "Pond" worthy ships, here is a good source;
http://wmunderway.8m.com/home/home.htm

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Oldenburg, Germany

rexscarlet wrote:



sparkywtf wrote:
I was going to take an old PT model I had to make an IG patrol boat. But after seeing how small it was, it would be a really small patrol boat.

I have wanted to make a navy for my IG though.

.
This make a good size guard boat, 1/35 is a little big, but the price is right... http://www.megahobby.com/usnavyvietnampbr31mkii-pibber1-35tamiya.aspx


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FOUND IT 1/48 scale perfect for 40K;
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LNDDMY


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there are several groups that build "Pond" worthy ships, here is a good source;
http://wmunderway.8m.com/home/home.htm


great, i planned to make some IG patrol boats too (and equip them with the stormlord kit heavy stubbers i will have leftover in large numbers), and these links were really helpful

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"One of the big reasons the 40k world is so insane is that every faction needs to be able, in canon, to fight every other faction, including itself."
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Armageddon Steel Legion 3,500 Points
PDF Vendoran 3,500 Points
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Pittsboro NC (Raleigh)

Here are free paper models that could be enlarged and used as a pattern, there are a ton of paper models out there;

http://www.papercraftsquare.com/1400-sharnhost-battleship-free-paper-model-download.html
.

 
   
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Oldenburg, Germany

rexscarlet wrote:
Here are free paper models that could be enlarged and used as a pattern, there are a ton of paper models out there;

http://www.papercraftsquare.com/1400-sharnhost-battleship-free-paper-model-download.html
.


thanks for the link, gave me some good ideas for deck layout

although i need to do some major changes, since all the guns i plan to cram onto it need some more space

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Armageddon Steel Legion 3,500 Points
PDF Vendoran 3,500 Points
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There are some huge builds on here. They all make me sooooo want to build something similar. It would take me a lifetime to get anywhere near this.

Well done folks.

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I have been hoping for someone to build one of those for a while now, defiantly do it, and post pictures.

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 leroy233 wrote:
There are some huge builds on here. They all make me sooooo want to build something similar. It would take me a lifetime to get anywhere near this.

Well done folks.


do it!
and then we need to organize an event at the HQ one day where everybody who has built a ship comes in and we have a massive scale apoc battle with our epic BOATS OF DEATH

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Armageddon Steel Legion 3,500 Points
PDF Vendoran 3,500 Points
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Hello, just came across this topic. I've been building a Dreadnought type warship for my Orks on and off for four years now and have finely started to paint her. I've up loaded pictures to this site, is that the kind of thing you had in mind?
   
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just saw them, WOW

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Ever seen THIS? I didn't build it, found it on warseer or the waaagh! forum some time ago. It actually goes in water as well!

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Also, Stanly, that ship is an utter BEAST and is amazing.

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