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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 21:29:17
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Hey guys this is my list meant for Tournament play and competitive play in general, I would like to see if anyone has any comments or criticism of the list so I can consider changing it up to stay competitive.
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Eldar Primary - 910
HQ - Farseer w/Jetbike
Troops - 5x Dire Avengers w/Wave Serpent with Scatter Laser
Troops - 5x Dire Avengers w/Wave Serpent with Scatter Laser
Troops - 5x Dire Avengers w/Wave Serpent with Scatter Laser
Heavy Support - Wraithknight (Stock)
Tau Firebase Support Cadre - 590
XV104 Riptide w/Heavy Burst Cannon, Smart Missile Systems, Skyfire
XV88 Broadside Team w/3x Shas'ui with High-Yield Missile Pods, Smart Missile Systems
XV88 Broadside Team w/3x Shas'ui with High-Yield Missile Pods, Smart Missile Systems
Total : 1500
What do you think?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/07 21:32:10
Goat wrote:
Khorne. Khorne always gets first blood. Always...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 21:43:36
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Longtime Dakkanaut
United States of America
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Looks good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:14:02
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I would personally swap the Riptide for an Iontide and save yourself 15 points to give the missing EWOs to one squad of Missilesides. You don't need the AA from the Riptide with 3 Serpents and 2 units of Missilesides but you have no AP2 except the Wraithknight and he's only got 2 shots. Automatically Appended Next Post: I would personally swap the Riptide for an Iontide and save yourself 15 points to give the missing EWOs to one squad of Missilesides. You don't need the AA from the Riptide with 3 Serpents and 2 units of Missilesides but you have no AP2 except the Wraithknight and he's only got 2 shots.
Otherwise looks really solid.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/07 22:16:24
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:18:54
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I would say get the IonTide with EWO and FnP, and drop the bike off the farseer and just have him chill with the Broadside(Might get forewarning..) but more importantly it's because he's only gonna be TL'ing the Riptide right? He can do that with Guide from 24" away, rather than in the same unit and making the Riptide even more of a priority to kill(Warlord and Riptide in one unit)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:24:29
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I'd say getting EWO on the broadsides is more important than Stims on the Riptide. Definitely drop the bike from the farseer with no mantle he's just an easy kill otherwise. Stick him in the Broadsides.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:31:23
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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I dont usually find that my Riptide is shot at very often, honestly I would say that my Broadsides are more of a priority target for my opponents. The distraction of the Wraithknight often keeps shots away from the Riptide. I do here what you are saying about not having much AP2 and the switch out for an Iontide and Interceptor on a squad of Broadsides is apealling. However I am partial to keeping the Farseer with the Riptide as if I happen to roll perfect timing, I greatly increase the capacity of the Riptide. What do you think?
EDIT - (also the farseer will be casting guide + prescience on both the Riptide and the Wraithknight most turns)
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/03/07 22:32:09
Goat wrote:
Khorne. Khorne always gets first blood. Always...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:33:49
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well then, if the Farseer rolls up Perfect Timing, stick him with the Riptide. If not, no worries, he'll Guide/Prescience/Whatever safely in the backfield  Don't feel that he has to go with the same model every game, and remember that you roll for psychic powers before deployment. It really makes a difference!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:37:18
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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He doesn't really need the bike to run with the Riptide though I can see why you would. I just think EWO are so good it is always a waste to not have them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:37:36
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Yes but the question is do I remove his jetbike and have him on foot and add Interceptor to all the Broadsides or just add it to the one unit and keep my Warlord on the Jetbike for the mobility, 3+ save and T4?
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Goat wrote:
Khorne. Khorne always gets first blood. Always...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:41:24
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Interceptor on the Broadsides? Hm, well you are in a bit of pickle as far as points because there is only so much that can be cut, but ideally the Riptide and 1 unit has EWO, and the Farseer keeps his bike. I don't think that works for points, so if you are over than maybe just don't have Interceptor on the Riptide. It's nice, but you are primarily just wanting to keep those pesky Helldrakes away, and with 12 TL s7 Tank Hunters shots I don't think that'll be a problem
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:54:36
Subject: Re:1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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So as it stands you would Advocate for this:
1500
Eldar Primary - 910
HQ - Farseer w/Jetbike
Troops - 5x Dire Avengers w/Wave Serpent with Scatter Laser
Troops - 5x Dire Avengers w/Wave Serpent with Scatter Laser
Troops - 5x Dire Avengers w/Wave Serpent with Scatter Laser
Heavy Support - Wraithknight (Stock)
Tau Firebase Support Cadre - 590
XV104 Riptide w/Ion Accelerator, Smart Missile System
XV88 Broadside Team w/3x Shas'ui with High-Yeild Missile Pods, Smart Missile System, Interceptor
XV88 Broadside Team w/3x Shas'ui with High-Yield Missile Pods, Smart Missile System
Total :1500
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Khorne. Khorne always gets first blood. Always...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 22:58:19
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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If you drop the jet bike you get EWO on all the Sides and Tide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 23:03:24
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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How did you work that one out? - EWO is 5pts per model. I have 3 Broadsides and a single Riptide that is four models costing me 20 points to give them all Interceptor. An Eldar Jetbike does not cost 20 points and so dropping it would not get me interceptor on four models.
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Goat wrote:
Khorne. Khorne always gets first blood. Always...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 23:16:49
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Am I going mental? Its 15 points not 20 isn't it  its 20 for a marine bike and I'm getting confused I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 23:20:29
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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FlingitNow wrote:Am I going mental? Its 15 points not 20 isn't it  its 20 for a marine bike and I'm getting confused I think.
I think you might be right.
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Goat wrote:
Khorne. Khorne always gets first blood. Always...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/03/07 23:32:54
Subject: 1500 - 'No Holds Barred' - Eldau
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yes I would advocate for the above list. Has the shooting to neuter alot of armies turn 1-2. Has answers to Terminators, fliers, MC's, the only thing it can't reliably kill is a deathstar, but then again, not much can  If playing vs a deathstar you can jump your Riptide up and to the flank of the star and pull them off of your main flank(using 4d6 jump hopefully)
The 3 troops is somewhat concerning, and if you are going first you will really have to make sure that when you disembark the enemy doesn't have the ability to kill 5 avengers...tough!
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