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Ok so i prefer not to prime (strange i know)

But if i do .. it's always black. Tho i recently did a squad of boys in yellow ... and it SUCKED .. i mean it took a long time.
2 coats of Avaland .. and 3 or 4 coats of thinned Flash Gits.

Would priming white make this scenario better? I figure i wouldn't have to build up the colors so much that way?

Yes and yes.

Yeah it very much would help. You could also prime in yellow if you wish.

I have just started to prime my models in white and I prefer it. Black tends to obscure details a little making it harder for me to paint. White tends to show up the details of a model better for me.

First thing, get into the habit of priming - it something you should always do without fail if you want to produce durable figures and improve as a painter.

If you want to keep the dark tone of a black primed miniature but without actually having to use black primer, then consider using grey. I buy a cheap grey primer from Halfords here in the UK (Halfords is a car accessories store) and that is now my go to spray unless I specifically want to use white for something. You get the benefits of a black primer but without having to spend ages doing coat after coat to make up for the dark tone.

I too use grey most of the time.

The main advantage of black is that it forgives any small areas or crevices that you manage to miss painting, but nowadays washes and shades will do that for you.

It's still good for very small, dark, ship and tank models which you might paint best by a series of heavy dry brushings.

I'd highly recommend getting an airbrush for both priming and base coating. Vallejo Polyurethane primers are good and cheap compared to rattle cans, less susceptible to atmospheric conditions and can still be brushed on. Come in white, (light) grey and black, along with a bunch of colours. Also great for basecoating! This BuyPainted video shows how to paiont and shade yellow (specificially for imperial fists) nicely and easily with an airbrush.

Definitely better to do yellows over white or grey especially if you're brushing it on.

Specificially re. Orks, I recall seeing a great tutorial here on Dakka with an Amry Painter yellow primed Ork, with green washes used on the skin. The yellow basecoat combined with green washes results in a nautral light green highlight on the surface of the skin whilst you get nice dark green shadows. Doubly awesome because it does both the skin like that, and leaves you with a nice yellow base to work with for your cloth.

I personally wouldn't recommend Vallejo white as a brush on primer. Sure it works great with an airbrush but was disappointed with it for brushing on though.