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2014/05/07 23:27:30
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
"When an OIG special agent arrived at this employee’s work space to conduct an interview, the special agent witnessed the employee actively viewing pornography on his government-issued computer," Allan Williams, deputy assistant inspector general for Investigations at the EPA, told the House Oversight & Government Reform Committee.
"Subsequently, the employee confessed to spending, on average, between two and six hours per day viewing pornography while at work," he added.
EPA second-in-command Bob Perciasepe said the employee (who makes $120,000 a year) still hasn't been terminated because the EPA is waiting for an official report on his behavior. Perciasepe was not at all persuasive on this point, admitting he had known about the seemingly air-tight case (caught in the act plus confession) for "several months" when pressed by Rep. Jason Chaffetz:
This guy looking at porn, how long has that been going on since?
You all, again, have more infor—
Is the answer 2010?
I do not know. I do not know.
How can I know and you don't?
Because the inspector general has not told me.
[Some back-and-forth on a different issue.]
The first time I learned about it was a meeting with the inspector general.
When was that?
Within the last several months. And they're in—
Is it against the rules, is it against the department policies to watch porn at your office?
It is.
Then fire him! Fire him! What's the question?
We need to wait—
For what?
For the inspector general's report. I don't know if they're going to send him a criminal notice.
Is there any doubt in your mind that this guy is watching porn on a regular basis in his office? Is there any question?
I—I have no reason to doubt it because I trust the IG.
So what are you doing about it?
Well.
I'd like him to answer that question. What is he doing about it?
I mean, I am not personally doing anything about it.
Yeesh.
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2014/05/07 23:30:36
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
You'd think that if the government is gonna bother tracking all our internet use, they'd at least track their own and deal with people jerking it on the job
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LordofHats wrote: You'd think that if the government is gonna bother tracking all our internet use, they'd at least track their own and deal with people jerking it on the job
They track ours...
EPA, another useless agency wasting our tax dollars.
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2014/05/07 23:58:43
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
Unless you're under contract, most jobs (corporate jobs that is, small business owners get more power in who has a job and who doesn't) don't have automatically fired offenses. I know a guy who couldn't get his paper work right at all. Good guy, just sucked with the fine detail of it all. Took six months to fire him after everyone decided that he just couldn't handle the job because company policy required a bunch of procedural hoops to be jumped through.
LordofHats wrote: Unless you're under contract, most jobs don't have automatically fired offenses. I know a guy who couldn't get his paper work right at all. Good guy, just sucked with the fine detail of it all. Took six months to fire him after everyone decided that he just couldn't handle the job because company policy required a bunch of procedural hoops to be jumped through.
But this is like, a lot different than getting caught watching porn, having them find "hours" of saved porn on your hard drive, and admitting to watching "2-6 hours a day", right?
Also, holy gak EPA firewall... I can't even check my hotmail at work. You can watch "hours of porn???"
2014/05/08 00:01:19
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
LordofHats wrote: Unless you're under contract, most jobs don't have automatically fired offenses. I know a guy who couldn't get his paper work right at all. Good guy, just sucked with the fine detail of it all. Took six months to fire him after everyone decided that he just couldn't handle the job because company policy required a bunch of procedural hoops to be jumped through.
But this is like, a lot different than getting caught watching porn, having them find "hours" of saved porn on your hard drive, and admitting to watching "2-6 hours a day", right?
No, I'm clearly saying that if you just fire someone in spite of your policies you can be sued. Assuming that is the reason he still has a job. If the policy of the EPA is that you can't fire someone without a investigation, then their best off doing the investigation to avoid the suit.
Why is it taking them so long? Probably cause they don't really care that much and don't want to deal with the embarrassment because they know people are going to built a sky scrapper out of an ant hill.
When it's "Controversies" section of Wiki takes up a whole half of the page, I'm sure there are better options out there.
EPA is one of the most poorly run federal agencies because their work is among the most politically charged. Different administrations jerk the EPA left and right over how to do their job every election season so its hard for them to stabilize as an organization. They're not ATF, operating on brain deadness. They're more like an actor in a movie whose constantly being given conflicting motivation by the director, props for scenes they don't even understand by the accountants (congress), and they have a piss poor record of having people at the top of the pyramid who actually know what they're doing.
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LordofHats wrote: Unless you're under contract, most jobs don't have automatically fired offenses. I know a guy who couldn't get his paper work right at all. Good guy, just sucked with the fine detail of it all. Took six months to fire him after everyone decided that he just couldn't handle the job because company policy required a bunch of procedural hoops to be jumped through.
But this is like, a lot different than getting caught watching porn, having them find "hours" of saved porn on your hard drive, and admitting to watching "2-6 hours a day", right?
Also, holy gak EPA firewall... I can't even check my hotmail at work. You can watch "hours of porn???"
that's staggering to me, as SSA won't let me stream anything on the work computer, and blocks anything that could remotely be porn (photobucket, etc.).
I know for a fact that a person once worked for a Federal agency for six months after he was convicted, in federal court, of felony benefits fraud.
2014/05/08 00:12:29
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
that's staggering to me, as SSA won't let me stream anything on the work computer, and blocks anything that could remotely be porn (photobucket, etc.).
I know for a fact that a person once worked for a Federal agency for six months after he was convicted, in federal court, of felony benefits fraud.
Same here. But then it misses those occasional few times where I'm searching for an innocuous piece of clip art for a presentation, and all of a sudden there's a tit.
I swear; you can google anything and by the 3rd page of results there's inevitably porn in there.
2014/05/08 00:14:40
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
that's staggering to me, as SSA won't let me stream anything on the work computer, and blocks anything that could remotely be porn (photobucket, etc.).
I know for a fact that a person once worked for a Federal agency for six months after he was convicted, in federal court, of felony benefits fraud.
Same here. But then it misses those occasional few times where I'm searching for an innocuous piece of clip art for a presentation, and all of a sudden there's a tit.
I swear; you can google anything and by the 3rd page of results there's inevitably porn in there.
Dang guys.... I work in the healthcare industry... Evidently pr0n stirs are NOT blocked because they don't wanna block valid health site on bewbs, p & v...
But! I'm worked blocked on lotto sites (gambling?) and anything gun related.
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2014/05/08 00:18:33
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
whembly wrote: Dang guys.... I work in the healthcare industry... Evidently pr0n stirs are NOT blocked because they don't wanna block valid health site on bewbs, p & v...
But! I'm worked blocked on lotto sites (gambling?) and anything gun related.
Fedex uses McAfee to block stuff. It blocks access to Wikipedia and TV Tropes, but not Cracked, or PornHub (I just wanted to see if I could go there ). It doesn't block youtube, but it blocks youtube streaming, unless you go to google search and stream it through them @_@
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2014/05/08 01:31:54
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
If he didn't admit anything to a supervisor then a supervisor might not have any grounds to fire him on. The OIG is not part of the leadership, so anything uncovered by them might not be anything that leadership has "access" to until the investigation is complete.
So even though everybody knows he did it, leadership might not have the actual proof until the report is filed.
2014/05/08 01:56:18
Subject: Re:EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
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2014/05/08 03:54:41
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
Evidently the old rule of lifetime employment for judges has now been passed to the entire federal government. Has anyone been fired there in the last ten years?
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2014/05/08 12:18:29
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
Whilst I'm sure the agency no doubt has to co-ordinate the cleaning up of spilt loads, one doubts this is quite what they had in mind.
.... Lucky he wasn't from the Livestock Commission perhaps.
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2014/05/08 12:24:49
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
Polonius wrote: Don't for a minute think that they didn't want to fire him. They probably couldn't without a lawsuit.
Due process is a PITA.
An auditor walked in on him watching porn. I feel like that shouldn't require a written warning..... Or even the investigation they're "conducting".
Then you would not understand how civil service protection currently works.
Every manager, in every US agency, probably has a list of people they would fire today if they could.
But they can't so its almost irrelevant.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2014/05/08 12:35:09
Subject: EPA Offical Watches Tons of Porn at Work, is Still Employed.
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