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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/19 02:36:13
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Quick question. I play mostly IG and i have had a few instances where an enemy unit is up against a wall of a building with no windows. I was wondering if, say a round from a leman russ were to be shot at the enemy unit and the scatter die scatter it the direction of the wall, would the blast plate stop at the wall or scatter through it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/19 02:43:49
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
Newcastle, NSW ,Australia
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Through it, nothing but the table edge can stop a blast
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/19 18:04:04
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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Even the table edge doesn't stop the Blast, if the Blast Marker ends up with it's hole off of the table it is considered 'lost' and generates no hits.
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/19 19:08:12
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Once upon a time (2nd ed), that wall would have stopped the blast, but not any more.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
Northern VA/Southern MD |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/21 06:47:59
Subject: Re:can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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U're still hit with a wall, i guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/21 07:00:38
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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If a demolisher shell can scatter behind itself and kill the Iron warriors it was acting as a spearhead for then a Necron Heat cannons can scatter right through a fifty foot tall daemon wall to gib the Iron Warriors behind it.
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Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 03:12:32
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Sneaky Lictor
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But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS.
So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 03:29:40
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS.
So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused.
Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 03:59:21
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
Newcastle, NSW ,Australia
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Grey Templar wrote: Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS.
So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused.
Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage.
Wrong, a blast can still hit and wounds models out of LOS even if it has not scattered, provided the target model is in LOS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0002/05/22 04:49:44
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Sneaky Lictor
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Grey Templar wrote: Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS.
So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused.
Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage.
Which doesnt contradict anything I said.
Models behind the wall connot be wounded, and if the blast scatters onto a unit behind a wall the firing unit cannot see, no wounds are caused.
Which is exactly what I typed the first time. Automatically Appended Next Post: IXLoiero95XI wrote: Grey Templar wrote: Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS.
So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused.
Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage.
Wrong, a blast can still hit and wounds models out of LOS even if it has not scattered, provided the target model is in LOS.
Ummmm, totally wrong .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 05:20:35
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Krazed Killa Kan
Minnesota, land of 10,000 Lakes and 10,000,000,000 Mosquitos
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Steel-W0LF wrote: Grey Templar wrote: Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS. So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused. Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage. Which doesnt contradict anything I said. Models behind the wall connot be wounded, and if the blast scatters onto a unit behind a wall the firing unit cannot see, no wounds are caused. Which is exactly what I typed the first time. Automatically Appended Next Post: IXLoiero95XI wrote: Grey Templar wrote: Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS. So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused. Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage. Wrong, a blast can still hit and wounds models out of LOS even if it has not scattered, provided the target model is in LOS. Ummmm, totally wrong . No, you are wrong. The FAQ adds an errata to make this possible (emphasis mine): Page 33 – Blast & Large Blast, Line of Sight Add to the end of the final paragraph: “Remember to keep the wounds inflicted by weapons with the Blast special rule in their own wound pool, and that wounds from this pool can be allocated to the closest model in the target unit even if it is out of sight of any models from the attacking unit”.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/05/22 05:23:11
Subject: can blast weapons scatter through walls?
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
Perth, Western Australia
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Steel-W0LF wrote: Grey Templar wrote: Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS.
So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused.
Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage.
Which doesnt contradict anything I said.
Models behind the wall connot be wounded, and if the blast scatters onto a unit behind a wall the firing unit cannot see, no wounds are caused.
Which is exactly what I typed the first time.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
IXLoiero95XI wrote: Grey Templar wrote: Steel-W0LF wrote:But for a non-barrage blast, it wont wound without LOS.
So if it scatters behind a wall the firing unit cannot see behind then no wounds are caused.
Not quite correct. It still generates hits, which can be assigned to models which are visible and thus cause damage. The actual models out of sight are safe, but the hits can still cause damage.
Wrong, a blast can still hit and wounds models out of LOS even if it has not scattered, provided the target model is in LOS.
Ummmm, totally wrong .
You may want to check the FAQ, page 1 under 'Blasts and Large Blasts, Line of Sight'.
Edit: Ninja'd!
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