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2014/05/29 05:10:36
Subject: Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
How does this guy change magazines in battle? I mean, like Cato Sicarus could just sheath his sword or kind of hold the sword and the clip, but this deathwatch marine? No way. He has to deactivate the power field thing, open the little pouch/pocket/bag with spare magazines, and then pick one out with his massive fudgy fingers and then slip it in the reciever. HOW?
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How does this guy even reload?
My takeaway is still that a powerfist requires the disruptor field to be on in order to go Crazy McCrunchySplat. With the power field off, the person might still have to be sort of careful, but they could still do things like reload a fresh clip into a bolt pistol.
The magazine release and magazines themselves are huge. All they'd have to do is turn off the power field and just carefully reload it.
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2014/05/29 05:27:28
Subject: Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
You ever watch tomb raider? (As a side note this kid i knew used to pronounce it "too me rider"...) id imagine something like that as well as in a couple novels where they had their hands cut off they plenty of times reloaded with one hand. Its very possible in real life.
My question though is where do they keep spares?
2014/05/29 07:31:55
Subject: Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
The original fluff for the Terminators (for Spacehulk) mentioned one of the terminators slamming the magazine home into his storm bolter with his powerfist, so I'll say it isn't ALWAYS on.
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2014/05/29 09:21:10
Subject: Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
Its not always active, in storm of iron the iron warrior disables field before hitting warning he will not do it the next time round.
So with skill and experience you could reload it with a power fist and not crush bolter or smash own pistol to atoms.
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2014/05/29 12:15:08
Subject: Re:Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
Even if you couldn't use the PF to have both hands for reloading, single-handed reloading is something anyone even mildly serious about defensive pistol use practices. It's not that tough.
2014/05/29 12:48:09
Subject: Re:Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
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Triton wrote: Even if you couldn't use the PF to have both hands for reloading, single-handed reloading is something anyone even mildly serious about defensive pistol use practices. It's not that tough.
They do that in the Space Marine game. It seems the magazines are fitted to his belt in such a way so that he can just eject the spent one and ram the pistol down on the new one.
Turn the power field off (which is probably done by thought through the armour's neural link) done and then hold the gun in the power fist and you have a totally normal marine sized hand to pick things up with...
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that's a good question, but what i always wondered is how they control the fingers in a power fist to begin with. does the guy just have one improbably huge hand? or maybe there's a waldo built into the palm that his hand fits into?
2014/05/29 16:13:59
Subject: Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
marines only ever carry the clip thats in the pistol/boltgun....
(lol seriously people, model that stuff on!)
but yeah, as others have said, they have enough control over the fist to just shut off its power feild and do something like move a huge mag into the mag well.
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2014/05/29 16:15:12
Subject: Re:Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
morpheuschild wrote: or maybe there's a waldo built into the palm that his hand fits into?
This. Giant Hand Marines would be amusing, but it's a piece of wargear that a given Marine will only use sometimes (First Company are fielded as Terminators or Sternguard depending on the tactical situation).
As for hands-free reload methods, my favorite of all time has to be in the movie Equilibrium, where he tosses out two clips ahead of him, with round weighted bases so they stand upright, at exactly the point where he knows he'll run dry.
2014/05/29 16:27:15
Subject: Re:Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
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I think random marine Joe can manage to reload his bolt pistol.
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Considering that power armor is consistently portrayed as being a gigantic electromagnetic as well as a walking tank, the might simply have magazines positioned on their body so they can simply ram the empty firearm on it. If competent, they'd design the gun so an electromagnet inside the lower receive could suck in the new magazine and seal inside.
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2014/05/29 18:57:18
Subject: Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
Anyways, even ignoring action movie qualities, a marine is probably not going to need to reload a bolt pistol all that much anyways, especially if he has a powerfist.
If his target is even remotely far away, he's not going to shoot a pistol at it in the first place so that he doesn't just waste all his ammunition. If his target is close enough to use a pistol against, then it's also close enough for you to lunge towards and smash it with your power fist.
Especially given how unwieldy a power fist is (it isn't used in conjunction with a pistol anyways, by rules), the marine is only really ever going to fire off one or two shots before the main action is reached. It might take awhile for a space marine sergeant to actually run out of ammunition if they don't fire the weapon all that often.
Meanwhile, if things are so relatively calm that he's not punching something with his powerfist, he's probably in a position where he could spend the time to carefully reload. Assuming, of course, that they can't do it one-handed as others are saying.
there's always the option of having a buddy do the reloading quickly, probably by holding it out so expendable battle brother #23 can load it for them.
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2014/05/29 20:29:27
Subject: Re:Power Fist and Bolt Pistol. How do you reload?
On our sports channels we have football, rugby and occasionally syncronised swimming...
I'm sure if we invest in some eye drops and lower our viewing standards this may pop up on Britain's got Talent eventually - just with Steve from Stoke-on-Trent instead of a seasoned professional
While everyone is wondering about a single powerfist and a bolt pistol - consider this:
Marneus Calgar has x2 Gauntlets of Ultramar - yet he is able to use a Power Sword at the same time
Butter knife with boxing gloves? The guy has skills
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