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Brilliant analysis on Necrons. I agree completely.

why does no one like the Pariahs? i'm an eldar player an i hate these guys

They have WarScythes ... it ignores all saves, armour and invunrable ... Pariahsthey reduce your LD to 7 ... they kill one guy and its LD 6, kill2 LD5, kill3 LD4 (how many people can pass that?) ... also they're guns, range 24" S:5 AP:5 assault 2 weapon and you don't like them? yes there fire magnets ... so are wrathguard, terminators (and any other expensive unit) so don't deploy them where they can get shot to pieces. use cover and get them into the fight...
... hell put them behind another unit (in cover) then when the enemy get close move every one forward and watch them run as you start shooting...

Yes necrons got taken down a peg. so what? I don't think any race has got away with no reductions (i miss double MindWaring MC) hell look at the poor IG player his unit give away kill points, left right and center.

Sorry Tri.. but Pariahs only have 1 attack. WS4, and S5. So they hit on 4+, and wound most things on a 3+. That's roughly 5 hits, 3 wounds. Big deal.

As having 24" S5 AP5 assault 2 guns... That's why we have Immortals. Yes they do reduce your LD to 7, but it doesn't matter when a squad of 6 Scouts can charge them and win combat.

Add in the fact that they are 36pts a model, and you asking for someone to laugh at you. Also, they make Phase out more possible for the other player.

If you're letting a squad of Scouts cherry-pick your Necron units you deserve to be beaten. Add a Necron Lord to your Pariahs, mix them with Flayed Ones, escort the Nightbringer with them, or whatever. Pariahs alone are useless, as a force multiplier they are invaluable.

Thank you Nuglitch my point exactly.

Also WrathGuard get one shot at 12" yes it can kill any thing but do you know how hard it is to get a unit into firing range? They cost 35p (1p less then Pariahs) and are only two stat line better by +1T & +1I... if you kill the warlock (and with the new wounds rule this happens alot) they can have a chance of just sitting there... do i still take them? yes they're a great unit that can kill MC and tanks like nothing else but god i don't let them go any where unprotected, losing them hurts a game (5 + 1 warlock is 200p). Personaly i think Pariahs are a must for a necron player ... ok one attack but my god what an attack, get charged (without grenades) through cover and your laughing.

Silverwarrior88 wrote:So they hit on 4+, and wound most things on a 3+. That's roughly 5 hits, 3 wounds. Big deal.

And then your opponent takes those 3 models of the table with zero chance of saving.....

I'm with you Tri. I go up against 2 league armies on a regular basis (1 is my sons). I really hate those pariahs.
Shooting, followed by assaults with no saves equals lots of death....

Silverwarrior88 wrote:Also, keep this in mind. Necrons need another unit "TYPE" to get thier WBB's. That does not mean a Warrior next to another squad of Warriors. It means Unit TYPE. Infantry, Jetbikes, Jump Infantry, Tanks, Walkers, Skimmers, so on and so on. So this confusion about Heavy D's only giving other Heavy D's a WBB is wrong. They are all Jetbikes. They are benefit from each other.

Cute codex revisionism, saying the book written years ago was really written with the unit types in mind before they entered the game.

I hope you don't try this bull at a tournament.

No one else seems confused.

Bluegavdorro wrote:The powerfist guy might kill 2 bases per turn. How many turns is that unit stuck in the pit?

Usually one turn, actually.

Each fisted base is -3 combat res. Toss in regular wounds, and suddenly your fearless swarm takes 10 fearless wounds.

Gotta use those swarms carefully.

Powerfist units, not a good choice.

I don't rate pariahs. Anything that doesn't count towards phase out, I ignore when playing necrons. I'd love to play a 3 'lith + c'tan list. I'd have to kill, what, 20 warriors to win?